I LIKE the STOCK MIATA SUSPENSION BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE!! But I have a question.
11-28-2010, 04:55 AM
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Silly me, using words like that. Springs rates and valving are voodoo magic, and these "add on gadgets" known as tires are a sham. Physics also don't apply, race teams everywhere have been doing it wrong all along, they should have been jacking up their cars. The wheel gap is there because it needed that travel so they could run softer springs to make the ride in such a light car livable for most people. The stock Miata spends most of it's time on the bump stops, ideally you wouldn't even need bump stops, if you had more travel and stiffer springs to avoid blowing through all of the travel.
DUDE - the miata was neaver meant to be 'liveable' it was meant to be DRIVEN HARD on windy roads - hence its perfection. You keep talking about racing -- dude , you are NOT a race car driver - so stop PRETENDING you all are! This car is --again-- for THE REAL ROADS round the world - its suspension in stock form is PERFECT for this. Mazda NEVER made a lowered version if its miata -- not even the R (LOL! "RACING")-package was lowered! Again, becasue it RUINS the suspension.
Simple logic - if mazda COULD make their sports car handle better by putting on a shorter spring, THEY WOULD HAVE!
Look at the NC:
Note that thing you all hate the most - "WHEEL GAP" -- 21 years after the NA was introduced the NC STILL has that generous wheel gap/suspension travel - mazda never saw fit to do what you miata FANBOY geniuses supposedly figured out ie lower the cars srpings!
get a clue - MAZDA KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING!
"better" handling = SAFER handling therefore mazda has EVERYTHING TO GAIN by making their car handle better! If lowering springs accomplished this mazda would have done it LONG AGO!
they didnt! Why becasue lowering springs are an extension to a weak male ego carried over from the honda boys... its seems therea always a market for a gadget to take you away from your weak skills or lack of *****.
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11-28-2010, 04:58 AM
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Why am I finding all of these Miata mountain road videos on Youtube, and I don't hear any tire screaming, or body roll, and I think they are going quite a bit faster than 10mph.
Clearly this guy is right, we should all stop arguing with him and Mazda engineering. Nothing can ever be as fast as a Miata in stock form on a road. His logic blows my ******* mind.
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11-28-2010, 04:58 AM
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DUDE - the miata was neaver meant to be 'liveable' it was meant to be DRIVEN HARD on windy roads - hence its perfection. You keep talking about racing -- dude , you are NOT a race car driver - so stop PRETENDING you all are! This car is --again-- for THE REAL ROADS round the world - its suspension in stock form is PERFECT for this. Mazda NEVER made a lowered version if its miata -- not even the R (LOL! "RACING")-package was lowered! Again, becasue it RUINS the suspension.
Simple logic - if mazda COULD make their sports car handle better by putting on a shorter spring, THEY WOULD HAVE!
Look at the NC:
Note that thing you all hate the most - "WHEEL GAP" -- 21 years after the NA was introduced the NC STILL has that generous wheel gap/suspension travel - mazda never saw fit to do what you miata FANBOY geniuses supposedly figured out ie lower the cars srpings!
get a clue - MAZDA KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING!
"better" handling = SAFER handling therefore mazda has EVERYTHING TO GAIN by making their car handle better! If lowering springs accomplished this mazda would have done it LONG AGO!
they didnt! Why becasue lowering springs are an extension to a weak male ego carried over from the honda boys... its seems therea always a market for a gadget to take you away from your weak skills or lack of *****.
Simple logic - if mazda COULD make their sports car handle better by putting on a shorter spring, THEY WOULD HAVE!
Look at the NC:
Note that thing you all hate the most - "WHEEL GAP" -- 21 years after the NA was introduced the NC STILL has that generous wheel gap/suspension travel - mazda never saw fit to do what you miata FANBOY geniuses supposedly figured out ie lower the cars srpings!
get a clue - MAZDA KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING!
"better" handling = SAFER handling therefore mazda has EVERYTHING TO GAIN by making their car handle better! If lowering springs accomplished this mazda would have done it LONG AGO!
they didnt! Why becasue lowering springs are an extension to a weak male ego carried over from the honda boys... its seems therea always a market for a gadget to take you away from your weak skills or lack of *****.
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11-28-2010, 05:01 AM
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11-28-2010, 05:04 AM
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..anyway perhaps the ND miata will be SLAMMED a 1/2 from the ground - god the imbeciles here would go crazy for it!!
I better call mazda... "SLAM THE MIATA! -- CALL IT THE 'HANDLING PACKAGE' use words like 'spring rate' and 'valving' over and over again!"
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11-28-2010, 05:05 AM
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11-28-2010, 05:07 AM
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LOL - yet another sheeple miata myth "stock springs are SOFT" ...
..anyway perhaps the ND miata will be SLAMMED a 1/2 from the ground - god the imbeciles here would go crazy for it!!
I better call mazda... "SLAM THE MIATA! -- CALL IT THE 'HANDLING PACKAGE' use words like 'spring rate' and 'valving' over and over again!"
..anyway perhaps the ND miata will be SLAMMED a 1/2 from the ground - god the imbeciles here would go crazy for it!!
I better call mazda... "SLAM THE MIATA! -- CALL IT THE 'HANDLING PACKAGE' use words like 'spring rate' and 'valving' over and over again!"
go to CR.net for the last effing time... you may not be slammed but you'll fit in with the level of knowledge....
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11-28-2010, 05:13 AM
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Alrighty losers - ive made my point and you guys are getting boring. I never suspected my innocent question would be met with such hatred (18psi) and sheeple herd-think beast frenzy tactics - but I held my ground on you low-life cone racing fools.
All I have to say guys, is seriously, get out there in real life and drive for real. Enjoy the miata as it was meant to be - not on a track, on the roads. Always remember - you sheep hate me because I am right. Too many of you lemmings slam your miata 1" thinking you have skills when you dont. Your jealousy of my pics, vids, and curvaceous concubine proves this.
Im out, its been fun, Ill NEVEr post here again.
Im going to go back to being cool - you guys try to hit 100,000 posts before your life is over.
To all those COOL people reading this with stock suspension afraid to post up in my support, I dont blame you, the herd is a vicious beast -- a blind mob of savegry. But do not fear - there ARE NON-SHEEPLE miata drivers out there!
Peace
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11-28-2010, 05:17 AM
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DUDE, you leave!
LOL! You think your old handling is better becasue youve NEVER pushed EITHER of those cars to their limits. IE you are a *****/SKKUURRD/Skillless driver!
A *SKILLED* (key word) driver appreciates suspension travel - an unskilled one adds all sorts of suspension snake oil in hopes of 'improvement' but always fails.
in short - learn how to drive dude
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11-28-2010, 05:18 AM
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..ok im out for real.. you guys get the last word...
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