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Recent picture of my car at a lapping day, is this rear roll normal?

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Old 08-14-2013, 09:34 AM
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Default Recent picture of my car at a lapping day, is this rear roll normal?

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I just saw this picture from recent track day, and the rear driver side tire is being tucked really bad giving more camber than front. Is this normal?

I am running xida 700/400, front rb thick tubular on soft, super miata race alignment, and 4.25 ride height front and rear.


Also, when you start setting your dampers, do you guys start at softest settings and start limiting traction by making them harder or do you start middle of the adjustable range? (right now, i start at 3/4 hardness and then if I feel that my car is pushing, i soften front and vice versa, is this how you guys adjust your dampers as well?)

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That looks weird. Something doesnt seem right. I'll try to find a picture of my car from the same angle later.
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this is a mid exit of a right hand corner before straight around 50mph../
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If you're at max cornering under acceleration, you're going to compress the outside rear wheel.

What suspension mods do you have? And keep in mind that if you prevent that movement, you may be losing grip and going slower.
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To compare, here's the closest picture of my car that I have, xidas 650/400 rb race bar on soft, no rear bar, 4.25/4.5, something like the 949 alignment, 85k miles rubber stock bushings. About a 40-50mph turn, sharper than yours and I'm almost to the middle of the turn.



I think it might just be that 1/4" ride height difference. I've never been that low in the rear and I've never had that much negative camber in a turn.
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Yeah, but it looks like your DS rear is lifting, while his outside tire is still (mostly) planted. I'd say that was the result of bar vs. no bar in rear.
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banked turn?
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That corner is also pretty bumpy. Any chance of a video or a few other pics at that corner?
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here are the shots from the corner







Also , can you guys share how you dial in your dampening adjustments?
The turn is not banked and I have the rusty stock rear sway bar in place
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for ***** and giggles, here is a picture of my car at the same corner (entry portion of the double apex corner) Before rb sway bar and on stock suspension

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Was the ride height set with you in the car? If not, it looks normal considering there are two of you in the car.
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where's can i buy the flesh colored helmet?
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where's can i buy the flesh colored helmet?
Shhh, I really want to take a 3d -> 2d picture of my head and have it printed as a vinyl wrap for my helmet.
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first time for my buddy to come to track, the organizer's policy say helmets for all heads or no helmets. Unfortunately we had to choose the latter.
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shouldnt the policy be: helmets for all or no driving?
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go to the gym.

corner with you in it will squat less going around a corner.
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Looks fine.
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Originally Posted by shlammed
go to the gym.

corner with you in it will squat less going around a corner.
What are the weights of the driver and pass?
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This is tmp/cayuga. Picture is normal as there are actually 2 massive dips on that corner. Lap times?
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It's hard to compare Leafy's picture to yours as he is not under hard acceleration exiting the turn like you are. Depending on your whp number, the track, your tires and your swaybar...it's completely comprehensible to see your car behaving like that.

Also, what is the static ride height of your car?


About the only pic I could find of me under acceleration on exit is at an auto-X (appx 40-45mph)- I'm definitely more level, but I am also running Goodwin Special Ohlins DFVs, Whiteline rear sway and Kumho V710 tires.

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