need help ASAP clutch install...engine doesn't spin
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need help ASAP clutch install...engine doesn't spin
i started this same thread on another site and am kinda in a bind so i decided to post it here as well for more help
here is the link to the other thread
ok so this is my first clutch job ever
according to the miata.net garage when my transmission was almost completely mated i spun the engine with a ratchet with driveshaft installed and tranny in gear to make sure it would spin the wheels...and it did
but when i got the tranny even closer to the engine (aprox 2-3 exposed threads on bellhousing bolts) the engine wont spin period...not even with tranny in nuetral
i know i saw a post about this somewhere but i cant seem to find it
i replaced the flywheel with a f1 chromoly and an exedy oem replacement clutch
the side that had the springs sticking out further from the disc i installed towards the tranny
i just checked the clutch arm on the tranny and it moves freely
im guessing thats a bad thing but am not really sure
thanks
jared
p.s. with tranny in nuetrel i cant even spin the driveshaft although there is a little play in it
here is the link to the other thread
ok so this is my first clutch job ever
according to the miata.net garage when my transmission was almost completely mated i spun the engine with a ratchet with driveshaft installed and tranny in gear to make sure it would spin the wheels...and it did
but when i got the tranny even closer to the engine (aprox 2-3 exposed threads on bellhousing bolts) the engine wont spin period...not even with tranny in nuetral
i know i saw a post about this somewhere but i cant seem to find it
i replaced the flywheel with a f1 chromoly and an exedy oem replacement clutch
the side that had the springs sticking out further from the disc i installed towards the tranny
i just checked the clutch arm on the tranny and it moves freely
im guessing thats a bad thing but am not really sure
thanks
jared
p.s. with tranny in nuetrel i cant even spin the driveshaft although there is a little play in it
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Did you use a clutch alignment tool when you tightened up the pressure plate to the flywheel?
Separate the transmission from the engine, inspect for conflicts (including a misaligned clutch disk), and try again. Never expect to have the tranny go together with the engine on your first try when you've never done it before.
If the clutch disk is 2mm off it won't go together. Proper tools are nice.
Separate the transmission from the engine, inspect for conflicts (including a misaligned clutch disk), and try again. Never expect to have the tranny go together with the engine on your first try when you've never done it before.
If the clutch disk is 2mm off it won't go together. Proper tools are nice.
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I have never rotated the engine with the trans only partway in. I always just got it to mate correctly and tightened all the bolts. I have never had it not work. When trying to reinstall the trans make sure that you put a jack under the front of the engine and jack it up as high as you possibly can. This will tilt the backend downwards and make it easier to get the trans in.
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I don't think a prybar will work because you are pushing from one side and it does not come out straight. I pulled my 6 speed yesterday in about 15 minutes. Basically what I did was get my trans jack jacked up to just barely below the trans. I then started wiggling the tail of the trans a little bit. Then jacked up the trans jack tell it was pushing up just a bit and the trans literally just slid back and out.
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I pulled my 6 speed yesterday in about 15 minutes. Basically what I did was get my trans jack jacked up to just barely below the trans. I then started wiggling the tail of the trans a little bit. Then jacked up the trans jack tell it was pushing up just a bit and the trans literally just slid back and out.
even the first time i pulled the tranny when it as definetly installed properly it was a HUGE struggle
trans is still in
im hittin the hay and callin off work tomarrow
if anyone has more tips they would be greatly appreciated
thanks
jared
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i had 2 pry bars and i could not quite get them up to the middle of both sides they were more toward the bottom but not on the bottom..it def did not work
lucky you
even the first time i pulled the tranny when it as definetly installed properly it was a HUGE struggle
trans is still in
im hittin the hay and callin off work tomarrow
if anyone has more tips they would be greatly appreciated
thanks
jared
lucky you
even the first time i pulled the tranny when it as definetly installed properly it was a HUGE struggle
trans is still in
im hittin the hay and callin off work tomarrow
if anyone has more tips they would be greatly appreciated
thanks
jared
Do you have a transmission jack? If not I highly recommend going to harbor freight and picking one up. Definitely makes the job easier.
Basically the jist is just manhandling the trans around tell it comes out. The more hands on it pulling is usually better.
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tranny is out got it with the prybars
now it takes 2 arms and a retchet to spin the engine
did i damage severely?
what do i do from here?
i have the clutch off
the spline is damaged a bit but are being repaired
i tried turning it over with the key but with the transmission out the electronics in the car wont even turn on
what do ya think?
what do i do from here?
thanks
jared
now it takes 2 arms and a retchet to spin the engine
did i damage severely?
what do i do from here?
i have the clutch off
the spline is damaged a bit but are being repaired
i tried turning it over with the key but with the transmission out the electronics in the car wont even turn on
what do ya think?
what do i do from here?
thanks
jared
Last edited by jared8783; 09-13-2010 at 12:18 PM.
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Take the clutch, pp and flywheel off
Have a beer
Look at it and make sure nothing looks off.
Have a beer
Put torque flywheel back on and spin the motor to verify everything is good
Have a beer
Verify the clutch allignment tool sits in tightly and assemble the clutch, spin motor again, this will make you feel better. Also verify the release bearing is on properly at this time.
Have a beer
Grab the transmission and slowly raise it up (I usually put it on my chest and push it up from there, I use my knee to keep it level while going in) Rock it a little side to side/back and forth till you feel the splines mate up. When it mates, push it in as far as possible by hand (you should be able to get it pretty tight against block)
Have a beer, wipe a little sweat off, curse yourself that when you buy a house, it will have a lift in it.
Throw all the bolts in, connect starter, give it a crank.
When it starts and goes in gear, go back in the house, clean up.
Don't drive, you've drank too much.
I might have forgot some steps in there