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TravisR 09-16-2009 11:29 PM

Transient Throttle
 
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EVERYTHING IS CORRECTED... Lets hope, that last manual was crap. My appologies for the horrible write up. This one is better. Promise. Please let me know if you see any errors (typo's or otherwise)

TravisR 09-17-2009 08:46 AM

I have some edits to do after rereading it today. I never can write things well the first time through it seems...

y8s 09-17-2009 10:04 AM

that's what proof readers are for!

TravisR 09-18-2009 09:51 PM

Updated!!

sv650_ck 09-21-2009 05:55 PM

Has anybody with a turbo gotten the predictive map working? If you have, can you post a screen shot of your settings - thanks.

neogenesis2004 09-21-2009 06:02 PM

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This is what I'm running. Gives me amazing response on my stock 1.6.

TravisR 09-21-2009 06:37 PM

I know man, isn't that throttle response sick? It was never that good stock I know that for a fact.

sv650_ck 09-22-2009 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 457108)
This is what I'm running. Gives me amazing response on my stock 1.6.

I attempted to get Kpa points to fill in the table but it doesn't seem possible. How do you get to 6k rpm @ 2% or 5% tps or 2k rpm @100% tps, etc.?

neogenesis2004 09-22-2009 11:32 PM

its an educated guess. It will always be vacuum there.

swimming108 10-14-2009 03:18 PM

can anyone else with good results post their data? i am still having a tough time getting things perfect.

sv650_ck 10-14-2009 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by swimming108 (Post 467876)
can anyone else with good results post their data? i am still having a tough time getting things perfect.

I spent some time with it with so-so results. My map sensor has been getting flaky so that could have been part of the problem. Will try again after the new sensor is installed.

18psi 12-30-2009 06:51 AM

So you guys tried the map Neo posted and its so so?

y8s 12-30-2009 11:25 AM

it's a reasonable starting point. just do some normal driving and run a datalog the whole time and see if it's close enough and if it's not, fix it

Jabbah 01-04-2010 02:34 PM

Thanks for the tutorial, just set this up now. One thing though is that Rob_k over on the adaptronic forum recommends 80-100% for Async gain. Using it at 100% atm with good results, although havent tried 30% or less to compare...

Edit: Just re-read the v2.0 user manual, the 1-30 gain value is for the old transient throttle method.

sv650_ck 01-04-2010 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jabbah (Post 503713)
Thanks for the tutorial, just set this up now. One thing though is that Rob_k over on the adaptronic forum recommends 80-100% for Async gain. Using it at 100% atm with good results, although havent tried 30% or less to compare.

Good info - mine is currently set to 30% for gain and 500ms transition time. Will have to try 100%.

TravisR 01-04-2010 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jabbah (Post 503713)
Thanks for the tutorial, just set this up now. One thing though is that Rob_k over on the adaptronic forum recommends 80-100% for Async gain. Using it at 100% atm with good results, although havent tried 30% or less to compare...

Edit: Just re-read the v2.0 user manual, the 1-30 gain value is for the old transient throttle method.

Good discovery! Thank you! I will update the manual.

PhantomRoadster 02-03-2010 12:32 AM

Is anyone still having problems with their transient throttle? I fine tuned my map using my data logs and neos map but got lean tip in. To resolve the issue I made it rich by increasing the kpa +20-30 in most cells but am now getting lean tip in and rich right off throttle. My gain is at 100% and trans time at 300 ms. Any advice?

18psi 02-03-2010 12:37 AM

I am having MAJOR problems this this. No matter what I do with the table it has INSANE lean tip in and then goes pig rich after like 1-2 seconds. So its fucking HORRIBLE.
I turned off the table and am trying to mess with it the old fashioned way, but have little luck with it.


If somone could chime in with a little more information on how to get rid of this shit I'd be very thankful

18psi 02-03-2010 02:34 AM

I re-read the tutorial for the 10th time and will try messing with the table 1 more time tomorrow. Wish me luck:D

bellwilliam 02-03-2010 03:03 AM

Turned off "use map prediction", and it fixed most issues for me.


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