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Jfornachon 07-15-2011 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Lizard (Post 749479)
IAC and dwell really have nothing to do with each other. The only thing that can have an effect if the dwell settings are wrong, when idle speed changes your battery volts may lower just enough to put the coil dwell in a bad spot and fry a coil. I would not be concerned about idle control but with your dwell settings.

Do you have much experience with tuning and standalones? From my experience I have had naggy customers who want to know what every key stroke and what every change is. It can be very daunting trying to sort out issues and deal with a PITA customer. No offense.

I put and EMS 4 on my miata a while back. I did it in parallel with a 36-1 tooth wheel. Out of all of my testing this was the way that it worked best. All AEMs have problems when its power and the harness power are switched from seperate sources. Like the harness can stay on wither ecu off. They tend to do funny things.

F L

As far as beeing a naggy customer I can understand. How ever I can't understand why one would just stop showing intrest in the project and demand payment when the job was not complete. Payment was demanded before he even tried to tune the idle. That is when he blew 4 coils in a hours time. This was after the car was driven with out a problem except for the hard start due to the lack of IAC. I let him do what he needed on the car. I actually offered to do what ever he needed me to do to help out. This included trying to do research for him and he said that people online are stupid adn have no clue about AEM computers. The next thing I know is he is asking for help from someone on the forum.

How long ago did you install the EMS4? Where did you get the 36th tooth?

I have very little experiance with tuning. I do know that dwell is what kills coils and the dwell was high. The problem is that I didn't have any other coils to install till I got some yesterday. Also I have removed the injectors, alternator, and computer from the car so that I can drive the car in stock form. The reasoning behind this is to make sure the car will run properly then go from there since he was having a hard time and started to change the factory harness around. Supposedly it is back to normal. I will find out whats going on when I get a chance to work on the car.

As far as the power source is concerned please elaborate. I don't understand what you were trying to say.

Have a great day,
Jared

Jfornachon 07-15-2011 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 749441)
Can you snap a pic of that harness?

What part of the harness are you lloking to see?

Have a great day.
Jared

Flying Lizard 07-17-2011 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Jfornachon (Post 749636)
As far as beeing a naggy customer I can understand. How ever I can't understand why one would just stop showing intrest in the project and demand payment when the job was not complete. Payment was demanded before he even tried to tune the idle. That is when he blew 4 coils in a hours time. This was after the car was driven with out a problem except for the hard start due to the lack of IAC. I let him do what he needed on the car. I actually offered to do what ever he needed me to do to help out. This included trying to do research for him and he said that people online are stupid adn have no clue about AEM computers. The next thing I know is he is asking for help from someone on the forum.


From reading the posts in the other thread I don't know where someone can have much interest in a project that doesn't have the parts to be completed plus he was going on a vacation or something. But I have nothing to do with it so I'm jot going to even comment.

No offense to anyone on here but if you look at your requests for help you really didn't get any. Plus there are probably very few people who are on this forum with the probably 300 released EMS4s. Plus AEM is supposed to support you not the forums. They help me a lot with my install.


How long ago did you install the EMS4? Where did you get the 36th tooth?
It was about 2 months ago. I got the first batch. I had to wait for the update to get the vvt working. I used a generic 36-1 trigger wheel and drilled the holes to fit. The ign sync allows to to not have to he super precise. Plus you can put the missing tooth where ever you want in the cycle.


I have very little experiance with tuning. I do know that dwell is what kills coils and the dwell was high. The problem is that I didn't have any other coils to install till I got some yesterday.

As far as the power source is concerned please elaborate. I don't understand what you were trying to say.

Have a great day,
Jared
With little experiece I would suggest you seek help with completing the project. Small novice errors can have a very negative effect on engine life.

The harness has power and the ecu has power. If the ecu is off and the harness is on the ecu can backfeed power from the injectors, on relays, and solenoids.

F L

Jfornachon 07-18-2011 01:23 AM

F L- thank you for the insight in this. Since you have done this before can you give me any more help on how to get this to work. Not trying to be a dick but your info is very similar to what he has said. Info is given but no solution. I welcome any help that you may be able to give me.

On a side note unless you are my coworker cody/eb turbo you only have one side of the story (his). I have intentionally not bashed him for a reason. I want to keep the work place as civil as I can and I don't feel bashing someone who only signed up to bash me is going to help. It's very childish since we work with each other. I also see that your only post's have been in my thread. Please make an intro thread, and a write up on how you installed the EMS in the car would be great.

Please don't take offence to what I have said. I am just looking for help to get my car running.

Have a great day,
Jared

EB Turbo 07-18-2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Flying Lizard (Post 750310)
Plus AEM is supposed to support you not the forums. They help me a lot with my install.


Originally Posted by Jfornachon (Post 750350)
Not trying to be a dick but your info is very similar to what he has said. Info is given but no solution.

Because of the alternator and the avail I/O of the EMS 4 the logical install would be parallel. But you didn't want to do that. Plus if he went to AEM for help I'm sure they would have given him the same 36-1 info. Or maybe even more because he actually went that route and wanted to get it working properly.

EB Turbo

Flying Lizard 07-18-2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jfornachon (Post 750350)
F L- thank you for the insight in this. Since you have done this before can you give me any more help on how to get this to work. Not trying to be a dick but your info is very similar to what he has said. Info is given but no solution. I welcome any help that you may be able to give me.

On a side note unless you are my coworker cody/eb turbo you only have one side of the story (his). I have intentionally not bashed him for a reason. I want to keep the work place as civil as I can and I don't feel bashing someone who only signed up to bash me is going to help. It's very childish since we work with each other. I also see that your only post's have been in my thread. Please make an intro thread, and a write up on how you installed the EMS in the car would be great.

Please don't take offence to what I have said. I am just looking for help to get my car running.

Have a great day,
Jared

Sorry for being short I'm running late for my job. All I know is what I have read here on the forum and frankly I don't really care. This is an AEM thread not a rant and raves.

I don't really think there is much to write up on my harness. Having the experience with AEMs before. I bought their full harness kit and did an overlay harness. I used hayabusa coils. The same ones Aem sells. I am running an MXL dash so I didn't even worry about the factory dash.

F L

Flying Lizard 07-24-2011 01:21 PM

J F, are you still working on this project? I'm curious to see some photos as well....

F L


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