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Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1339121)
My friend is already half way throigh removing it to put the artech/greddy and the td04 on.
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So some goodies showed up yesterday and my friend tossed them in. '13-'14 GT500 injectors and the FlowForce BYOI kit. Four for me, four for my friend. Total cost will be $190.5 for each of us (set of 8 injectors was $241 after shipping). I am super impressed with the flow force stuff.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 While my friend was doing that he found the crack I posted above. So today... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 And yeah, that manifold is done, done, done. Ebay manis? Don't do it kids! Explains why it wasn't spooling until 4500rpm... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 Can anyone identify the turbo that came off? Sorry about the blurry pictures. I will scold my friend. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466125134 |
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Someone please correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure the gt500 injectors have a split pattern and should be oriented so that the plug is pointing straight up.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1339295)
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure the gt500 injectors have a split pattern and should be oriented so that the plug is pointing straight up.
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Turbo, mani and downpipe are in with temporary hotside piping. He needs to have this movable out of his parents driveway by Friday, so he is reusing what he can.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466549464 The turbo tony downpipe is a lot longer than the one that was on the car and runs right into the resonator, meaning the whole exhaust system needs to move back. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466549464 I am sorry to admit that this solution was strongly considered for far longer than it should have been. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466549464 turns out the resonator is off a hyundia or a kia! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1466549464 |
Well, everything made it in and the car was driveable not long after the last post. My friend said it was running better than ever (probably the new injectors) and was working on tuning it. Two days later, it stalled out at a light and hyrdrolocked due to excess fuel. With a bunch of testing we concluded it would need to be towed home (though now with a clean spot under the hood from the fuel that gushed out the spark plug holes.)
Between work, a trip, and the move, my friend did not have much time to work on the car. He did a bunch of trouble shooting, checking the ignition system (it was obviously getting fuel!) and the timing as well as other things. Just yesterday, we stumbled uppon a know quirk of the Link ECU. Apparently, if the sensor ground gets interrupted, it decides that that means the engine needs all the fuel. All of it, as in 100% duty cycle. This certainly explains why there was so much fuel. After fixing that, and changing the fuel... I mean oil, out of the crank case, the car is back on the road and running better than ever. Very impressed with the GT500 injectors. I hope to get a chance to drive it tomorrow evening. Sorry, no picture updates. I will try to remember to snag some when I next see the car! As a side note, I just got my adapter kit in the mail today and will be putting in my GT500's shortly. |
Update! The car ran and drove all night. Between the two of us it seems we have managed to ammass enough knoledge to not blow it up yet. Y'all guys are awesome. :greddy:
That said. Rubber plumbing bits don't like turbo heat. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0f4b95a127.jpg We happend to be near a home depot so grabbed another and tried to reinforce it so it would last the evening (which it did). https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ca32c012bc.jpg Getting something made to take the heat is now top priority. The car is making 140kpa, dead steady. It varries only between 138-140 once spooled. It makes positive pressure starting at 2300rpm (115kpa or so) and makes the full 140 at 3400 or so. Way bettet than I was expecting. Also, at 2500 or so in 5th pulling up a hill, you can hear the turbo spin up and it is wonderful. Next big step is a clutch and crank it up. (Though turning it up a bit may happen before then, see if the stocker can hold 8psi). I have to say I am super impressed with the base maps on the Link. Starts, runs and drives reasonably (certainly not perfect) on the base map. A bit rich, but that is preferable. |
You realize the heat is coming from the turbo and not just being inside the engine -- not sure what you expect to accomplish by wrapped your lunch in tin-foil...
stop being cheap and buy the correct coupler for the application. You're not installing a toilet. |
Well aware. The aluminum tape was more to hold it together and strengthen it than for heat. That stuff is surpsingly strong. Goal was for it to last the night and possibly until my friend gets the parts to make something else.
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So, just to clarify, you put a massive amount of duct tape inside the hot side plumbing? The same tube what sucks all the air your engine uses?
Seems legit. Duct tape has always held up great in my experience, hardly ever melts off grandma's old POS furnace every single year. |
Originally Posted by deezums
(Post 1347978)
So, just to clarify, you put a massive amount of duct tape inside the hot side plumbing? The same tube what sucks all the air your engine uses?
Seems legit. Duct tape has always held up great in my experience, hardly ever melts off grandma's old POS furnace every single year. Although odds are the intercooler would have caught it had we actually been that stupid. And for grabdma's furnace. Use the right tape and it will stop doing that. Duct tape is a brand, not a recomended use. HVAC tape is what you really want. |
You're not a HVAC technician either...
besides, im sure a real one would reach for Mastic... |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1347990)
You're not a HVAC technician either...
besides, im sure a real one would reach for Mastic... |
It worked for your mom last night.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SHNAP. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1348001)
It worked for your mom last night.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SHNAP. Try this stuff next time. :party: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VL...&pi=SX200_QL40 |
So this solution only has to last until saturday now. 1.5" silicone elbow on it's way. It will be red. Deal with it.
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I find its the blue, that really upsets them.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1348031)
I find its the blue, that really upsets them.
This car's theme is red white abd black though. (Although the caps for the fuel injectors are blue, sadly). |
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Update time! Budget billies! Total cost? About $330. Using some B6 HDs that spent two seasons on a spec Miata (no leak, good shape, too cheap to pass up!). Set of coil over sleeves with 7" 350lb springs off amazon. Bump stops from a Mini and then 450lb springs from Summit.
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My friend also made a little manual boost controller. It seems to work well, had the car running between 160 and 170kpa before, although the other night something changed and it was pushing to 194kpa. Man was it moving when it did that! Good news is, the clutch held, so we can hold off on doing that for a bit longer. May need to shorten the spring a bit or something? Who knows. Made from plumbing parts. It fits in nicely.
Now he just needs to get the exhaust patched up so we can tune everything that isn't boost. The 02 sensor reads lean at idle and cruise, but I can assure you it is anything but. It is fouling a set of plugs every other week and not burning oil. Pressure in the exhaust is high enough to make it so boost is reading correctly as far as we can tell. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e41ea90f1.jpeg Since we were doing plugs so often on the Miata, we thought he should check the plugs on his daily. A 265k mile '98 Buick Regal. He hadn't done them in the 30k he owed the car, looks like the previous owner hadn't done them in a long time either.... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7d11b0ed9.jpeg |
Not so running and driving now... I am going to be looking at it tomorrow. The roof apparently doesn't line up perfectly anymore, which has me worried. Doors do open and close though...
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Ouch. At least there's no blood.
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Originally Posted by adryargument
(Post 1359638)
Ouch. At least there's no blood.
What happened? Good news is, no one is hurt, noone else involved, no property damage or anything else like that. As offs go, could have been a ton worse. |
Yup, he's done. Put a fork on him. Trans tunnel is bent from landing on a rock it looks like, the windsheild frame is 1" away from the drivers quarter window, and the roof won't latch. If you site along the body, the front is twisted relative to the rear. It also looks like the driver side front sub fram rear.mounting point is pushed over half and inch inboard or so.
The whole driver side front suspension is toast, subframe ears are bent, crank pulley is bent (motor sounds healthy thogh, no crank nose wobble). Steering rack looks bent a d binds up as well. We got him back to my friend's place on a u-haul dolly yesterday, towed fine behind his 98 Regal. We just kept it slow. Probably going to strip all the good parts out and find a new shell. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1a7827841b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8418854f60.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0add1fdd42.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3e3c6f4ef7.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6560239245.jpg |
Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1359980)
Yup, he's done. Put a fork on him. Trans tunnel is bent from landing on a rock it looks like, the windsheild frame is 1" away from the drivers quarter window, and the roof won't latch. If you site along the body, the front is twisted relative to the rear. It also looks like the driver side front sub fram rear.mounting point is pushed over half and inch inboard or so.
The whole driver side front suspension is toast, subframe ears are bent, crank pulley is bent (motor sounds healthy thogh, no crank nose wobble). Steering rack looks bent a d binds up as well. We got him back to my friend's place on a u-haul dolly yesterday, towed fine behind his 98 Regal. We just kept it slow. Probably going to strip all the good parts out and find a new shell. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1a7827841b.jpg This car dying was probably for the best. |
Originally Posted by farpolemiddle
(Post 1360083)
This car dying was probably for the best.
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Originally Posted by adryargument
(Post 1360189)
:rofl: please trash the sunflower wheels.
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Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1365916)
Part II, Coming soon.
Good luck fellas. Pleasure meeting you two. Can't wait to see what you have planned for the new build. |
Originally Posted by 90MiataNY
(Post 1369906)
Good luck fellas. Pleasure meeting you two. Can't wait to see what you have planned for the new build.
There is paint in the works, if we can find someone to do it cheap enough (if we do all the scuffing, cleaning, and masking first, anyone know anywhere local to north jersey?), or figure out a way to paint in the dead of winter without a shop (haven't really figured that one out yet). |
Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1369937)
Short term, it is just going to be a direct swap over with everything cleaned and an upgraded clutch and a few "While we are in there"s. Not much progress yet since my friend had his basement flood not long after getting the shell.
There is paint in the works, if we can find someone to do it cheap enough (if we do all the scuffing, cleaning, and masking first, anyone know anywhere local to north jersey?), or figure out a way to paint in the dead of winter without a shop (haven't really figured that one out yet). |
And so it begins! My friend is finally getting to use his Harbor Freight blob maker.
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Friend's progress has been slow due to the holidays and other things. Some progress has been made and the main upgrade showed up.
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Car is mostly stripped. We got the engine and trans out last night. Just need to get the wiring harness and brake system out now. Turns out the subframe is really bent. The engine mount studs did not want to come out of the holes. Thankfully, the driver side mount was just about done and just pulled apart with enough jiggling and prying.
It was my friend's first time pulling an engine, so he had to pose with it. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...782415e241.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...72bdf6a172.jpg Turns out the steering rack got hit a bit harder than we thought.... https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...55a627c3a5.jpg And something is growing in the #3 exhaust port? Coolant? If so, the only way I can think it would have gotten there is a cracked head.... Half tempted to just put it in, toss in some Subaru coolant conditioner (RadWeld) and see what happens. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3c5c8da8e7.jpg |
My friend decided he needed a garage to work in with the way the weather is around here. $160 from Harbor Freight later and he has one. This thing is actually super nice. Add some 11W LED lights and it is a pleasure to work in.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f9bddcb449.jpg Also, we decided we really didn't like the idea of a cracked head with what appears to be coolant in the exhaust port, so $300 we snagged a replacement 1.6 locally. Will be getting some new seals and a timing belt job before getting slapped in. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a8a2ab7bb4.jpg |
Updates! Wiring harness got pulled and hung up serial killer style.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...317bd37200.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...02a9ef3a15.jpg This is the kind of mess we were fixing. This is after it was field repaired when it was found to be only twisted and e-taped... https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f8f662fdb6.jpg All laid out and being picked and checked over. New wires being run for gauge power, IAT, boost control, wide band and the like. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...67f16aac68.jpg The last of the after market cruise control and alarm system were annexed. Had to fix everywhere it was spliced in... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ce5a3b2fcb.jpg Some of the splices we made. Non insulated crimps and heat shrink works nicely. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...99ef7ad330.jpg Repaired, re-pinned and re-wraped ecu wires. I actually ordered new pins off digikey to fix some of this... The zip ties holding the new wires are temporary. We forgot to pick up more tape, so they will be loomed and taped nicely once more is acquired. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4935dfd97a.jpg Added a fused power run to run the gauges off a relay switched by ECU power. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...20a625c468.jpg |
Assembly started a bit ago actually, with the main body panels. Also, with the warm day today and yesterday, painting of the engine bay finally happened. It ended up Toyota White Pearl or something like that. I have also gotten a report that the new 1.8 diff is in and most of the rear end is together with the harnesses put in everywhere but the engine bay.
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New motor getting a check over, a pan with a drain and some seals. I don't think this motor ever saw anything other than good synthetic. It is in stellar shape for the supposed 130k it has on it. Also has a gates racing timing belt as far as we can tell. Super impressed.
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First parts were put in the car on 3/20/17. Today was first start. I will update with some pictures of the exhaust and other things sometime. Have I mentioned the base maps on the Link are really good? I am constantly impressed with start and idle on it.
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Custom exhaust got done last week on Friday. 2.5" out of the turbo for the first 8" or so, with a divorced waste gate, then right up to 3", flex pipe, resonator and right out the back. Slight trim to the shelf to get it to fit nice.
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So updates. The exhaust sounds amazing. Not too loud, nice throaty rumble. No real ricer buzz or anything.
Also, car is rolling on the road! After a new battery first thing in the morning, it made the NJ Miatas meet and did over 200 miles on it's first day out. Our good friend Justin shot an amazing roller as well. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cf7f34b5cf.jpg The day was not without event. Turns out the former turbo water line (now just a bypass for the thermostat) that runs off the cursed waterplug tap was lacking a clamp... Or rather, that clamp was 3" down the hose, rather than where it should be. Took about an hour of waiting for things too cool down, moving things, and cursing, to get it back on. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ef63f74fc2.jpg The art of getting the line back on the back of the engine, with a spacerless rerout hose in the way.... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59ba083a07.jpg |
Got a chance to do a hot compression test today. Didn't get time to do wet numbers, but dry were: 180, 180, 180, 185 on 6 pumps. Not gonna complain about that for a $300 engine.
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Let's rusEFI it this weekend :)
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Originally Posted by russian
(Post 1586996)
Let's rusEFI it this weekend :)
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