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Old 12-13-2010, 06:53 PM   #161
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Hey ********, my hp number is to the wheels stop being jealous.

Pusha stop being a ******. I <3 you though
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:26 PM   #162
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Hey ********, my hp number is to the wheels stop being jealous.

Pusha stop being a ******. I <3 you though
No, now your hp number to the wheels is zero since you parted out.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:50 AM   #163
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It's time to put this car on the dyno, pick a shop, set a date and get some numbers.
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:05 PM   #164
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yup yup.
I'll start asking around and try to find a good deal on some dyno pulls.
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No, not some dyno pulls, some tuning.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the fact that there are many here that understand enough about their stand alone ECM's, that they can get a fair tune put together, by doing pulls on the street.

That being said nothing beats a dyno for tuning, especially if it is a true accelerometer.

Furthermore, if you have a tuner that is familiar with the system you are using, and the tuner is competent, you will get a better tune than anything you can cobble together on the street. Tuning performance mods is what they do for a living. If you had to have a surgery who would you want, the surgeon with 20 years of experience, or the guy that stayed at the holiday inn express last night? In my mind its the same with tuning a car, I'll take the guy that does it for a living and has good references.

When I had my car on the dyno, my tuner worked for an 1 hour and 20 minutes before starting the car. After that my car ran on the dyno roughly another 3 hours. There where approx 20 wot pulls made, with the rest of the time dedicated to driveability. The result? A car that drives like stock until I put the hammer down.

Of course all that tuning and dyno time cost me, but in the end it was well worth it.

Love your car, love your build, respect the fact that you have built your tune, (god knows I could never do that). But put that bitch on a dyno and lets see what you got.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:47 PM   #166
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Well, there isn't much to dialing in boost: I have an mbc.
Fueling is pretty basic too: mid to upper 11's in boost, mid 12's at low bost, and mid 14's to mid 15's at cruise/idle.

The thing I would need some help with is the timing map. The one I've put together and am using for now is a pretty decent base map, but I'm sure its nowhere near the limits or potential of my setup.

So yeah, I'll try to find someone that can either dial it in for me on the dyno, or at least help me do it.


First and foremost I wanna do a baseline pull and see what my car is putting down as is right now. I've always been curious of that.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:44 AM   #167
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Baseline pull goes without saying, you gotta know where you are starting.
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:52 PM   #168
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Finally cleaned the coolant out of engine bay after the stock radiator took a crap all over it. Installed new radiator. Sun was out. Snapped some shots.












Talked to a performance shop with a dynojet.
Will be going there soon.

Also might be turning up the boost (after talking to a local guy running the same turbo as me on pump gas and stock engine at 20psi )
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:55 PM   #169
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More pics of corrola!
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:59 PM   #170
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That's my mother in laws. Total sleeper. Pulls premiums at race warz
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:36 PM   #171
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I'm so jealous of all you Americans with your concrete pads.
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:05 PM   #172
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Have you had any issues running without a heat shield? I ******* hate my heat shield. And my cold air box.
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I have that tiny little heat shield by the power steering reservoir, it seems to get the job done just fine.
this car doesn't see continuous boost for more than 5-10 seconds at a time, so I pretty much never generate too much heat
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:26 PM   #174
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It seems like every month or so some local shop around here is doing a $30-50 dyno day where you get a couple pulls, there's got to be something like that in your area. I can't wait to see some numbers for this thing.
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this car doesn't see continuous boost for more than 5-10 seconds at a time
You need longer highways

j/k same here in general because of shitty DC area traffic also because of zero downforce on the car
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Super clean. Can't wait to see moar numbers.
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Can you please please please make some dyno pulls with max boost before pinging?

I am looking at a new turbo and if your china gt30 has the *****, I would like to save $1300 and get an ebay turbie.
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I already discussed some pulls with a local shop w/ dyno, my friend is building a Supra and we're both going to go dyno together to get a better price, so I'm waiting on him to finish his shiz up.

Max boost before pinging is impossible. e85 pretty much will not ping. Many have completely grenaded their motors without so much as a single count of knock on e85.

What I AM planning to run is anywhere between 16-20psi (right now its at 14 with a bit of creep to 16.9 @5500) and bump up my current timing table another 3-5*.

The car as is right now feels like a complete beast and I honestly don't even give a **** how much power its making or making much more.

But I'll do it. Just for the hell of it. Just to say I did it LOL
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:51 PM   #179
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The ones who blew their motors on e85-- was that from bent rods or head gasket issues?

I'm thinking that with a built motor you wouldn't need to worry?
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Did you ever fix your boost sag issue?
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