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Sean 10-21-2011 09:55 AM

I need to make one of these cowl covers and delete my wipers that would solve a whole lot of problems. I like the look a lot this thing looks sweet.

astroboy 10-21-2011 10:34 AM

I took those two pics of the cowl cover for you, pretty much I just winged it. The wipers will be going back on but the plastic piece needs some more work before I put the wipers back on.

astroboy 11-08-2011 02:46 PM

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Soooooo about two weeks ago we started to tune her, found there's a vacuum leak somewhere and while trying to get the idle down blew the freeze plug out of the front of the head (only moments after Dave walked away from the front of the car and I questioned if we should shut it down). The timing of this event was quite epic.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320781611

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320781611

Then I installed the side splitters, they are quite tits. I was suprised to see they came out and din't look stupid with the rb rear flares (I was expecting to have to modify them to make them flow with the rest of the car)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1320781611

Shameless plug:
Also I am in the calendar for 2012 so vote for this guy! http://www.r2-limited.com/blog/?page_id=406

Bond 11-08-2011 06:41 PM

Last picture looks like you are 10' tall, lol.

How do you blow out a freeze plug?

astroboy 11-08-2011 08:09 PM

I used the step ladder technique to get maximum vertical reach.

The freeze plug wasn't in quite perfect and what ended up happening is as the temps went up the pressure also did. The freeze plug was the weak point so it blasted out when the temp got too high.

240_to_miata 11-08-2011 08:19 PM

LOL at the epic freeze plug. We could have been hurt pretty bad, so id say timing was epic too.

You fix the shit yet? We cant do any more tuning till you get that done. Sry I didnt call you back. I forgot :(

astroboy 11-08-2011 08:29 PM

Nope, haven't gotten it done. Work has been pretty nuts along with shoots so I haven't had a chance. Also my Sentra needed a new wheel bearing, ball joint, axle, and all the seals. The water pump needs to be replaced so it is next on the chopping block along with timing chain guides, oil pump, and tensioners.

soviet 11-08-2011 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by astroboy (Post 793572)
The freeze plug wasn't in quite perfect

Can you elaborate? I'm planing on installing a freeze plug for my reroute and I don't want my car spontaneously ejaculating coolant.

astroboy 11-09-2011 12:15 AM

Yeah, if you don't drive it in perfectly flush with respect to the face of the head (where your driving the freeze plug into) it will weep and eventually, as I found out, blast out of the head like a steam line rupture.

240_to_miata 11-09-2011 06:19 AM

For the record, his temps just hit about 215*F... so nothing crazy

astroboy 11-18-2011 08:54 PM

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Just finished taking apart my diverter to find the cause of the pressure leak . I was fully expecting to find a ripped diaphragm but actually what happened (no idea how though) is one side of it got pushed down and was allowing air to get by. Set it straight and reassembled it...going to give it a go tomorrow to see if it still leaks. Next I need to figure out what is going on with the idle adjustment screw on the throttle body. Then throw the coolant blockoff plate on (just need to punch holes in it for mounting purposes), refill the system, and try try again.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321667677

240_to_miata 11-19-2011 08:44 AM

What did you make for a plate? How thick?

TheDriver 11-19-2011 09:39 AM

Sorry I didnt bother to read through all this, what are your power level goals? Very sick build BTW!

Braineack 11-19-2011 09:45 AM

Sorry i didn't bother reading, are you a ******?

TheDriver 11-19-2011 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 796985)
Sorry i didn't bother reading, are you a ******?

Sure, I love stars and would like to think I am one sometimes :hsugh: But seriously, just saw the early build and didnt think it would hurt to ask. Sorry to get you started off on the wrong foot this morning :crx:

curly 11-19-2011 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 796985)
Sorry i didn't bother reading, are you a ******?

Oh good, so you got this? Great, I'm off to bed then.

astroboy 11-19-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 796971)
What did you make for a plate? How thick?

1/4" thick aluminum (should expand at about the same rate as the head). I am contemplating buying some hex head fasteners and countersinking the holes so the mount flush but part of me says that will introduce a couple failure points that I don't want in my life.


Originally Posted by TheDriver (Post 796980)
Sorry I didnt bother to read through all this, what are your power level goals? Very sick build BTW!

That's fine. My goal is a reliable 300whp car that I don't have to put a ton of boost into to achieve said power goal. If this setup doesn't get me close a little bw efr should get me the rest of the way there.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 796985)
Sorry i didn't bother reading, are you a ******?

Sometimes people think I when I talk about this car :riaa:

hustler 11-19-2011 11:22 AM

God damn you turned around that car.

TheDriver 11-19-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by astroboy (Post 797005)
That's fine. My goal is a reliable 300whp car that I don't have to put a ton of boost into to achieve said power goal. If this setup doesn't get me close a little bw efr should get me the rest of the way there.

I'm starting a build as well, I dont know much about Borg Warner's turbos but I've heard a lot of good things, hope to get to/be at your level this time next year. ;)

astroboy 11-19-2011 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 797006)
God damn you turned around that car.

Thanks man.


Originally Posted by TheDriver (Post 797008)
I'm starting a build as well, I dont know much about Borg Warner's turbos but I've heard a lot of good things, hope to get to/be at your level this time next year. ;)

EFR's are good things to have in your life. Hopefuly your build will be running this time next year ;)


The diverter still leaks by :( I'll have to take it apart again to see if I can pinpoint the source of the leak again.

Braineack 11-19-2011 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by TheDriver (Post 796991)
Sure, I love stars and would like to think I am one sometimes :hsugh: But seriously, just saw the early build and didnt think it would hurt to ask. Sorry to get you started off on the wrong foot this morning :crx:

It's kinda offensive IMHO.

:brain:

240_to_miata 11-19-2011 05:33 PM

Have you messed with adjusting the spring?

We'll have to get together and do some photo / car shit again soon. Thanks to some awesome peeps on MT.net I now have CS5. I need to learn more, and get some good RAW's to play with.

I am itching to play with cars. Evan is building his 99 motor now, and im modding my brothers subbie. . . But i need more. lol

astroboy 11-19-2011 06:34 PM

Well damn. Let me know when you want to come over and wrench and we'll do it up. I'll be putting the blockoff plate on over the next few days and refilling the coolant so more or less when you want to come over I am game.

Also I went from no additional pressure on the spring to all of it. Leaked the same amount regardless.

astroboy 11-20-2011 10:46 PM

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Today I actually put in work on her. I picked up a cluster cowl for $50 and $50 in cf wrapping materials that have been sitting around for about a month. Well today I played with my first carbon wrap...it came out ok but if I had put more effort into the headlight covers my results would have varied.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321847202

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321847202

I also finished installing the passenger side headlight. Should be doing the coolant blockoff plate tomorrow. Then I can try running this ---- again.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321847202

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1321847202

mighty mouse 11-21-2011 03:53 PM

let me know when the wrench session is and if I'm free I'll come down

astroboy 11-26-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty mouse (Post 797806)
let me know when the wrench session is and if I'm free I'll come down

Still haven't had one, lots of leaf raking sessions though :facepalm:

I threw the covers on to see how much I liked/disliked them and I am still on the fence. I am leaning towards the like side the more I look at them though.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1322356378

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1322356378

Vashthestampede 11-26-2011 10:44 PM

How will that wrap hold up to the elements? Not to mention any heat the headlights give off. Just something to think about.

Maybe one day all of us CT miatae crew will have all our cars on the road at the same time. lol

Sean 11-28-2011 01:03 PM

I like them because they are not just the normal black and they are different than I have seen in the past. I am very interested to see how they hold up. Is is wrap like 3m wrap or actual carbon fiber layed on with resin. From the pics it looks like real CF with resin.

Seefo 11-28-2011 01:49 PM

In, lets see this shit running Astro!

astroboy 11-28-2011 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 799488)
How will that wrap hold up to the elements? Not to mention any heat the headlights give off. Just something to think about.

Maybe one day all of us CT miatae crew will have all our cars on the road at the same time. lol

I got the carbon for cheep so I'm not too worried about it. Also the carbon timing cover holds up pretty well so I'm hoping it will be ok. Maybe spring I'll have her all sorted. I am not planning on doing much else to her for a while. All this time not driving her makes me want to appreciate her for a while before I go in again.


Originally Posted by Sean (Post 799954)
I like them because they are not just the normal black and they are different than I have seen in the past. I am very interested to see how they hold up. Is is wrap like 3m wrap or actual carbon fiber layed on with resin. From the pics it looks like real CF with resin.

Thanks, is is indeed carbon with a bonding agent and resin over the top.


Originally Posted by Track (Post 799979)
In, lets see this shit running Astro!

There is a video a few pages back of it running ;) Getting it moving seems to be the tricky part.

hustler 11-28-2011 07:34 PM

That shitty carbon pattern looks like broke-ass Louis Vuitton F1 surplus dogshit.

astroboy 12-29-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hustler (Post 800108)
That shitty carbon pattern looks like broke-ass Louis Vuitton F1 surplus dogshit.

Not quite sure why your in the know about woman's purses...guess this is a miata site. I don't care for them too much myself. I was really hoping the hexagon pattern would be prominent and the rest would not be so...patterney. They are on the workbench and may stay there longtime.

So the coolant blockoff plate is made and works; had to do it caveman style (hacksaw dremel and c clamps) though because of lack of access to proper tools. Also getting the bolts in required some tin snips. Can't see the hacking with the cover on though.

Also Dave came by and we got this bitch to move under her own power. The lifters need adjusting BADLY and something is not quite proper with the suspension/steering because there was some mean shaking at higher speeds. Nevertheless it stayed together, saw 24 in/hg on decel, and needs tuning badly. Afterwords we trial and error'd until the tps worked, calibrated it, and tried to figure out why the fans refuse to come on. Hopefully I can get him to post the vid in here along with the log.

PICS!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1325171647

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1325171647

Also dug these out, I think I am going to clean em up and use them again.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1325171647

Sean 12-29-2011 10:34 AM

This car is so clean. And I absolutely love those mirrors. I am going to buy a set at some point but I may cheap out and get the abs ones instead of the CF ones.

astroboy 12-29-2011 10:41 AM

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Thanks man. Those mirrors got pretty haggard, so I stopped using them. I think I can bring em back though. Also here's the finished cowl cover:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1325173298

Sean 12-29-2011 10:44 AM

What did you use to adhear the CF to the cowl. I did the same kinda thing to my glove box door but I used standard fiberglass resin and it looks good still just not as good as it did. Is there some sort of cf specific resin? The cowl looks awesome.

Also anything APR haggard or not is still sweet. I need those to match my wing.

jbrown7815 12-29-2011 11:34 AM

Cool thread, hope you have it running soon. Next goals?

240_to_miata 12-29-2011 02:16 PM

I looked thru your old setup. Ill send you a PM with info on your fan setup. We had it right, but i messed with it before I left so now you just have to go back and change it to what it was originally.

The software should have been functioning correctly, so your wiring or something is causing the fans to not come on.

blindboxx2334 12-29-2011 04:47 PM

astroboy,

did you just buy the begi plate? if not, wat kinda coolant block off plate is that?

astroboy 12-29-2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Sean (Post 812251)
What did you use to adhear the CF to the cowl. I did the same kinda thing to my glove box door but I used standard fiberglass resin and it looks good still just not as good as it did. Is there some sort of cf specific resin? The cowl looks awesome.

Also anything APR haggard or not is still sweet. I need those to match my wing.

I used this black bonding agent on the cowl before I put the carbon over it. It was like a glue or epoxy. I don't think the resin was anything specific.

They are not ARP unfortunately :(


Originally Posted by jbrown7815 (Post 812286)
Cool thread, hope you have it running soon. Next goals?

Thanks, next goal is to have it running well/tuned.


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 812381)
I looked thru your old setup. Ill send you a PM with info on your fan setup. We had it right, but i messed with it before I left so now you just have to go back and change it to what it was originally.

The software should have been functioning correctly, so your wiring or something is causing the fans to not come on.

Nice man. Thanks.

Do you have that video of the inaugural drive?


Originally Posted by blindboxx2334 (Post 812495)
astroboy,

did you just buy the begi plate? if not, wat kinda coolant block off plate is that?

Nope, it is a 1/4" thick piece of aluminum that I cut to fit. I used some paper to make a template and cut it to fit with a hack saw and cleaned it up with a dremel.

240_to_miata 12-29-2011 08:28 PM



I sound like a NERDDDDD :rofl:

wet windy roads for a first drive = :loser:

astroboy 12-29-2011 09:43 PM

Nice, thanks man. My prediction on the fans was accurate too :D

240_to_miata 03-04-2012 09:06 PM

Finally running nice. Got cranking more sorted out today, started tuning and got the accel much much much better.

Here is a low boost (7psi) pull... Rolling into 3rd


And here is me testing my touchscreen on Martins megasquirt. This is a work in progress. Right now only a few of the gauges are setup but they are all reading raw ADC

More on this project later in my own threads.

mighty mouse 03-04-2012 10:36 PM

hell yeah! Nice work boys

astroboy 03-05-2012 06:47 AM

Fcuk yeah, thanks again man. Now I gotta finish off everything else I've been slacking on and up the pressure :D

240_to_miata 03-05-2012 09:59 PM

I just looked at the 2 short logs we did on the main road where I asked for a good 3rd gear "pull". I have come to the conclusion that you have a vagina:greddy::greddy::greddy:. My grandma rolls into the throttle faster than that. :sleep::sleep:

We need to add a bit more fuel in boost (you are at like 12.2:1 at 5psi, not bad, but I want to make sure it doesnt go much above that) and then start pushing this thing. I would like to see a log that actually has 100% throttle somewhere in it!!:nxsmile::fawk:

astroboy 03-05-2012 10:51 PM

Pretty much every time I stepped on the throttle I was expecting the engine to come apart or something blow off/open/up/apart. Maybe when we have something other than 25 mph zones and I have paperwork showing the car isn't stolen I'll drive like less of a bleeding gash...but probably not.

astroboy 03-07-2012 06:08 PM

So I tried to take the car out and it was on 3 cylinders again and the WB wasn't running. I am starting to hate this fcuking thing:vash:

Anybody have any idea why it would be running on 3 cylinders when it is cold? I feel like the reason is because of cops but that doesn't seem right at all.

Today it seemed like once the car was warmed up (about 1/2 way up the temp meter) she was going on all 4 but without the wb (which I didn't notice until I tried to drive it and noticed as I started to go up the hill my egt was rolling up on 1400), but the first 5 minutes I had to keep her going while she sounded like she had an uneven length manifold or a flat 4. When I saw the egt I had to use lots of decel to keep from detonating while limping her home. Also this isn't the first time she has started on 3 and after warming up she went to all 4, just the first time it really pissed me off.

I pulled the plugs and they all looked like carbon covered sh!t with the tip of the center electrode a tad white.

240_to_miata 03-07-2012 06:27 PM

Might still need to play with cranking. It's a pain in the ass with those huge injectors. We got it to start easy with all that fuel but it's also quick to foul your plugs and wideband up. How did you know the wb wasn't working ? U don't have a gauge right?

astroboy 03-07-2012 08:18 PM

The meter for the lc1 isn't hooked up but the led indicator is and that wasn't lit so I'm going with it wasn't on. I am working on resurrecting my netbook now so I can get a better idea as to what is/isn't happening.

240_to_miata 03-07-2012 08:21 PM

Yeah having your wideband reading 7:1 cause its off will take 10% of your fuel out and that could make you very lean

astroboy 03-07-2012 08:34 PM

Well at least nothing exploded yet :D

Gryff 03-08-2012 06:01 PM

I would set an exception, If my wideband goes 7 whatever afr error code bullcrap then the ecu completely ignores it. simple as that.

240_to_miata 03-08-2012 07:00 PM

Other than making some hardware or editing firmware I dont know how you would make it failsafe like that. It doesnt error code, it just is at 0v

Gryff 03-08-2012 10:55 PM

hmmm, maybe it is just for autotuning that it ignores it like so, I know when I go full lean on overrun it doesnt add fuel like crazy cause of a filter in veal, I figured there would be something similar to that in the rest of TS, or at least the same filter.

240_to_miata 03-09-2012 06:26 AM

He wasnt autotuning it. That was just closed loop correction.

astroboy 03-12-2012 11:49 PM

Today I kept a close eye on my LC1 and after cranking the car a few times it stopped turning on. The first time I turned the key to the on position it came on and heated up with no faults but once I tried to get the car started a few times it stopped turning on. I am starting to think a plc is going to be in my future.

On another note I ripped into my tuning laptop and the hdd is shot, so now I need to get a new zif drive...solid state is soooo tempting :bigtu:

240_to_miata 03-13-2012 06:20 AM

PLX you mean.

FYI i want to change your cranking from "priming pulse" every time, to just the first. I think when we are having trouble cranking, that extra priming pulse every time we turn the key on and off is messing ---- up.

astroboy 03-13-2012 03:46 PM

Yeah, perhaps that is what I meant...or is it? Tried cranking it today when it was 'bout 50 out and still no love, started with a good length of flood clearing before I tried to start her. No laptop is KILLING me.

240_to_miata 03-13-2012 05:07 PM

1) sell 1000cc injectors
2) replace with reasonable injectors
3) WIN

We are going to be chasing your stupid cranking forever. Beg and plead someone else who has 1000cc for their cranking table.

astroboy 03-28-2012 11:58 PM

Wideband controller is dead :( Time to decide on a replacement...inputs anybody? I am coming from a LC1 btw


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