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Duuude, glad everyone is alright. Kinda crazy that an NB could flip an SUV from a side impact, kinda impressive...
I'd definitely snag the motor/trans/diff from that NB if it were me. Worst case it has a damaged head, but I'd bet the bottom end is fine. It's not an interference motor so shouldn't have internal damage in that regard. |
Originally Posted by Fireindc
(Post 1664018)
Duuude, glad everyone is alright. Kinda crazy that an NB could flip an SUV from a side impact, kinda impressive...
I'd definitely snag the motor/trans/diff from that NB if it were me. Worst case it has a damaged head, but I'd bet the bottom end is fine. It's not an interference motor so shouldn't have internal damage in that regard. The car is an auto so I don't have much interest in the trans but car was a 8.5-9/10 inside and out and everything but the front is intact. Someone would probably want the top interior wheels that have new tires. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...51588769ac.jpg |
I am really really glad that she was okay.
There's a huge amount of salvageable stuff on that car if you choose to get into it. They're getting very hard to find a junkyard compared to 10 years ago. |
Yowch! Thank Heavens the Kiddo is all right. Stuff - whatever it is - will eventually end up in the dumpster/junkyard anyway. The health and safety of loved ones is the important thing.
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Damn dude, sorry to hear about the car, but super glad your daughter's ok! Man, this thread's been a bit of a rollercoaster.
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Originally Posted by Z_WAAAAAZ
(Post 1664031)
Damn dude, sorry to hear about the car, but super glad your daughter's ok! Man, this thread's been a bit of a rollercoaster.
All jokes aside I appreciate you guys comments. My daughter is 19 and this is the first car she bought with her own money. She's had it maybe 2 months. She shouldn't have even been where she was, she works for me and I had text her and told her to take the day off but she didn't see it until she showed up to work. Left probably excited for the day off (she's a hard worker with amazing work ethic) and just wasn't paying attention. I'm just glad nobody was hurt. As a dad getting the call and then pulling up to see the truck had rolled and the damage to her car but not seeing her. Definitely wasn't my strongest moment. A couple older ladies that witnessed the accident had her off the road in the grass consoling her. Grateful for them. As far as the car goes, everything from the windshield and doors back is intact. Excluding the steering wheel obviously. I think the valve cover and exhaust cam gear will end up being the only issues with the engine. Gonna pull it and sell the rest cheap just to get it out of here. It's really a bummer the car was 9/10 inside and out, didn't smoke or burn oil. Transmission was rock solid. Idk if there's much of a market for the trans but it was definitely good. The guy I bought the car from gave me a really thick folder of all the maintenance he'd done over the years it was very well maintained. Got it for a steal to he just wanted to get it out of his garage. She's probably going to want another Miata so hopefully I can find her one that is half as nice as the one she just lost. |
I would pull every part and every nut and bolt and save them as spares, everything you have shelf/attic/shed space to save. Trunk lid, bumper cover, tail lights, differential, axles, control arms, interior bits, relays, errythang. You can always sell the parts later if you ever get out of Miatas. You can't always find the parts readily otherwise.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1664042)
I would pull every part and every nut and bolt and save them as spares, everything you have shelf/attic/shed space to save. Trunk lid, bumper cover, tail lights, differential, axles, control arms, interior bits, relays, errythang. You can always sell the parts later if you ever get out of Miatas. You can't always find the parts readily otherwise.
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I spent Saturday pulling the engine out of my daughter's car. Sunday someone took the rest of the car. I picked the head up from the machine shop today. Now, I'm at a crossroads. I have the bottom end I've been working on ready to go together, crank being kind of iffy. Machine shop guy gave it the ok, but I'm still a little paranoid lol. First time engine build and all. Or, I have the known good engine from my daughters car. No issues there. Use the crank and send the iffy one to be turned? Or send it with the one I'm unsure of and hold on to the known good engine?
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Nobody responded to me yesterday so I'm guessing everyone was probably thinking I'm an idiot lol. The thing is, I'm really curious if the crank I polished will work without being machined. Sounds like an expensive experiment, I know. But having another known good engine on hand makes me really want to send it. Plus, I'm picking up some Carillo forged pistons with forged rods this weekend. The good motor is getting built as well. I am learning on this first one and will make some mistakes. If it works out great, if not then I learn a valuable lesson and taking that crank to get turned and buying new bearings.
I gapped rings. Out of the box every single ring was gapped the same, .022 including the oil rings. I left the top rings and oil rings at .022 and gapped the second ring to .024. That's what I have to work with. I planned on pulling the blown motor out of my car Saturday but I have to work then go to Tulsa to pick up those pistons and rods. Sunday is Easter so It's not happening til next weekend, unless something comes up :eek: |
Progress. Got the oil pump, oil pan, water pump on. Hoping for no leaks lol. Looks good but you don't know til you know. Once I get the head, timing belt and pulleys on I'm pretty much at a standstill until I can pull my motor out of my car. Today would have been a great day except we were under severe thunderstorm warnings a good part of the day. Rain on and off. Tomorrow is Easter so it probably won't happen until next weekend.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c0472b3d78.jpg I did make a mistake. I put the oil return at the front side of the oil pan, right where the AC compressor is. Who needs AC in a Miata anyway lol https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...69ea7954cc.jpg |
You might still make it work.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1664352)
You might still make it work.
I think I have the timing set. Everything lined up where it's supposed to be. I did just realize I need to order new lower timing cover. One that came off it was broken and the mid cover is missing the seals. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dde48db2f6.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...31accc829a.jpg |
I realized I never posted the difference between the tunes, the one I was running vs the one I blew my car up with. Tonight is the first time I actually looked at them and man, they are way different. The one on the left the car idled like S but ran well everywhere else, the one on the right it idled perfectly but also blew up...
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The timing looks good. Pictures always make the cam marks look a little off because of parallax.
Regarding VEs, in the left table your lower MAP area being that lean tells me it was auto-tuned and not hand massaged. When you use VEAL make sure to lock the idle and deep vacuum cells. Unless I’m missing something, the one on the right is richer everywhere, and somewhat closer to what I would expect for VE values. Are there any other big differences between the two tunes? What about ignition advance, engine basics, injector settings, AFR and Stoich AFR? |
Originally Posted by redursidae
(Post 1664465)
The timing looks good. Pictures always make the cam marks look a little off because of parallax.
Regarding VEs, in the left table your lower MAP area being that lean tells me it was auto-tuned and not hand massaged. When you use VEAL make sure to lock the idle and deep vacuum cells. Unless I’m missing something, the one on the right is richer everywhere, and somewhat closer to what I would expect for VE values. Are there any other big differences between the two tunes? What about ignition advance, engine basics, injector settings, AFR and Stoich AFR? |
IMO I doubt the tune killed the car if the VE table was the only difference. Like redusidae said, the VE table that was being run when the car blew up looks like it would've been way richer than the other table.
Did the car drive decently on the richer map? If it was running super rich I expect it would've stumbled a lot in boost once you got lower than ~11 AFR, but I don't think that would've killed the engine.. |
Originally Posted by SimBa
(Post 1664483)
IMO I doubt the tune killed the car if the VE table was the only difference. Like redusidae said, the VE table that was being run when the car blew up looks like it would've been way richer than the other table.
Did the car drive decently on the richer map? If it was running super rich I expect it would've stumbled a lot in boost once you got lower than ~11 AFR, but I don't think that would've killed the engine.. The way it failed was kind of weird imo. Came around a corner, 3rd gear pull to probably just short of 6k, shifted to 4th and didn't give it hardly any throttle as I was already at the speed limit, a few seconds later hell broke loose. I still haven't been able to pull the engine so I haven't been able to check out the actual failure. |
Often times the damage occurs a bit before the actual catastrophic failure. Several on this forum have had the kablooey under light load and not in the heat of battle.
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I knew this would happen. Unfortunately I don't have a big enough garage to pull the car all the way in and get the motor out.
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