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Boost_addict 10-27-2013 11:05 PM

F20C Miata engine conversion
 
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Thought I'd share this with you guys. Customer wanted to swap an f20c in his miata, so I took on the project. Customer dropped off the car Friday, I've spent yesterday and today to get to where I am now, I should have it wrapped up tomorrow, Tuesday at the latest.

follow me on Instagram guys, I post all sorts of cool fab stuff there - zanderguerra

Here is the subframe addition, 1.25" square and 1.5" round, all tig welded.
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I welded it onto the bottom of the subframe

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382929527

And cut what I didn't want anymore away with a sawsall

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382929527

I will be boxing In all of the open areas around the stock subframe, and adding a few reinforcements before this is done.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382929527

Engine shimmed and tweaked into position. Yes you loose ground clearance with this swap, the engine is too tall for the miata without being positioned farther back. I built it to sit a slight bit lower than the sump, to protect it.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382929527

Close up of the subframe side of the mounts

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Don't mind the bolts not being in all the way, or there being a piece of stainless stock through the mount hole, it's all just mocked up in these photos.

Driver side

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Passenger side

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382929527

I have the steering rack mounts made and sitting in this picture, but it's not aligned or welded yet, I was tired and didn't feel like working anymore

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so here's where I sit at the end of day two

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All I have left is the ppf adapter, a few hours of fab and welding to finish up the subframe, weld the mounts for rack, and lengthen the steering shaft. I'll post more tomorrow.

thirdgen 10-27-2013 11:07 PM

Awesome!!!!

FRT_Fun 10-27-2013 11:43 PM

Well shit. That escalated quickly.

awdracer 10-28-2013 03:46 AM

loving this already!

TurboTim 10-28-2013 07:45 AM

hell yeah, nice job. Damn you're quick.

thirdgen 10-28-2013 08:18 AM

If the exhaust and intake weren't opposite of what a BP Miata engine are, my car would have a k20/k24 in it.

Boost_addict 10-28-2013 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1067326)
If the exhaust and intake weren't opposite of what a BP Miata engine are, my car would have a k20/k24 in it.


Why is that stopping you?

thirdgen 10-28-2013 09:43 AM

I should add the fact that all the factory NB gauges need to also work perfectly...that's another thing stopping me.

Boost_addict 10-28-2013 02:21 PM

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Here's a little update, better pics of the mounts, and the steering rack is mounted

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Next is the ppf adapter!

TorqueZombie 10-28-2013 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1067356)
I should add the fact that all the factory NB gauges need to also work perfectly...that's another thing stopping me.

Shouldn't be too hard. Tach, oil, fuel, water temp shouldn't be to bad. Not sure about the speedo.

Curious how far from stock location the steering rack is?

Boost_addict 10-28-2013 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by TorqueZombie (Post 1067491)
Curious how far from stock location the steering rack is?

About 4 inches, the ball joints are still the same distance away, just behind instead of in front of.

Fireindc 10-28-2013 03:52 PM

Get some videos of it when completed! I'd like to see what you think of the steering with the altered rack. Track or street car?

NiklasFalk 10-28-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Boost_addict (Post 1067531)
About 4 inches, the ball joints are still the same distance away, just behind instead of in front of.

Copy in any discussion in the K24 thread.

It's not only the distance, it's also that the rack is on the other side (rack in front of the knuckle) that make a change in behaviour.

Boost_addict 10-28-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NiklasFalk (Post 1067555)
Copy in any discussion in the K24 thread.

It's not only the distance, it's also that the rack is on the other side (rack in front of the knuckle) that make a change in behaviour.

I'm aware of this, it means it'll get slightly more toe out the more you turn the wheel. It's for a street car, and it's the way others have done it so I did it as well. I'm also quite curious to know if feel will be altered or if it'll be negligible.


Anyways, here's the ppf adapter, probably overbuilt, but I like strength.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382999814
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Almost done! Just superficial stuff now; boxing in the subframe and reinforcing it, and the steering shaft.

nitrodann 10-28-2013 07:10 PM

That adapter is pretty nice work, I always feel that I am not good at big parts like that.

Dann

Boost_addict 10-29-2013 03:17 PM

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And that's it, everything fits and mounts well, so I pulled the engine back out for the final time, so I could box in the subframe.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383074278
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Here's the ppf adapter on the trans

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383074278
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That's it guys! Now I'm making fixtures of the mounts, and a fixture of the whole subframe with new steering rack mounts. That way I can make tubular subframes in the future.

18psi 10-29-2013 03:22 PM

Thread win.

You make this look soo easy hahahah

Props

TurboTim 10-29-2013 03:23 PM

What do you do about:
1. Lengthening the steering shaft?
2. Driveshaft pinon angle adjustment?

shlammed 10-29-2013 03:41 PM

driveshaft angle would be the same way you do it on a stock miata. the ppf bolts are oblong to adjust it after you get the bolts in and loose.

thenuge26 10-29-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1067973)
Thread win.

You make this look soo easy hahahah

Props

Seriously. After reading this thread, I think I'm gonna drop an F20C in next weekend!


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