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Braineack 10-08-2009 05:33 PM

I has shortblock swap
 
(8) Qts. of Advance Auto Dino 5w-30
(5) Qts. Castrol GTX 5w-30
(2) Oil fitlers
(10) Cans of brake cleaner
(1) Tube of Ultra Black


Saturday will be Legendary. <---That's better than epic.

Ben 10-08-2009 05:48 PM

It puts a new engine in the hole?

Braineack 10-08-2009 05:56 PM

si. the motor is not the epic part (in fact it's weaksauce), just the task we have at hand this weekend.

Ben 10-08-2009 06:04 PM

What's your motor build?

Braineack 10-08-2009 08:23 PM

coated stock pistons and chromo moly rings....

levnubhin 10-08-2009 08:56 PM

No rods?
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hustler 10-08-2009 09:19 PM

I bet you can swap a motor pretty quickly now.

y8s 10-08-2009 10:35 PM

no rods for whatever reason.


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 465513)
I bet you can swap a motor pretty quickly now.

he's got wingnuts on the motor mounts.

Ben 10-08-2009 10:38 PM

Machine work? Rods? Bearings? Bolts?

jayc72 10-09-2009 01:50 AM

He's got oil!

Braineack 10-09-2009 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 465554)
Machine work? Rods? Bearings? Bolts?

Drill to hone.
Stock.
eBay special.
Yes, there will be some bolts.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/engine_work/rebuild_kit.jpg

Picture above are my high end components. I really dipped into my wallet and even purchased a $20 timing belt kit instead of reusing the current one like I wanted to. I even decided to drop another $20 on a water pump, cause I'm baller like that. And the best part of of the entire build are my $70 chromo moly rings that I really splurged on.

jesus, look at this thing....can you believe it cost $20. You know you're jealous:
http://boostedmiata.com/engine_work/water_pump.jpg http://boostedmiata.com/engine_work/water_pump1.jpg

haters will be haters.

Mach929 10-09-2009 08:41 AM

what's wrong with your motor now?

Stein 10-09-2009 08:50 AM

You have as much $ in your break in and good oil and filters than you have in your rebuild !:laugh:

Braineack 10-09-2009 08:54 AM

since the last dyno day in may it's been spitting oil, burning oil and smoking on decel. It still makes good compression and runs great around town. I've replaced the turbo and did my steam seals and it's just getting worse now smoking on heavy acceleration. I did about 5-6 autoxes and each time someone would mention a puff of blue smoke, i ignored it, by the 6th event the amount of people mentioning it and the announcer making fun of me, i decided it's time to do something.

when I looked at my dyno from that event and the videos it's evident something happened on my first pull. With my rear end being damaged the way it was it took my nearly 10 seconds longer to reach redline in 4th, my torque was crazy low, yet i still made 230rwhp. I have a feeling all the load from the dyno and bad rear made my pistons work overtime and must have damaged the rings or something.


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 465692)
You have as much $ in your break in and good oil and filters than you have in your rebuild !:laugh:

almost. thats the part I wasn't happy about :P


still, what's going to be fun about this weekend is more about this game plan:

Order of operations
  • Pull motor out of Brian's Car
  • Swap Head and accessories from old motor onto new motor
  • Install new clutch disc on motor
  • Install 6 speed transmission onto new motor
  • Install all turbo parts onto motor
  • Install motor assembly back into car.
  • Perform first start, checking for leaks
  • Change oil after idling at 2k rpm for 20 min
  • Change oil and filter again after running another 5 min
  • Rebuild old motor out of Brian's car for Scott
  • Pull motor out of Scott's car
  • Swap Head and accessories from old motor onto new motor
  • Install turbo parts onto motor
  • Install motor assembly back into car.
  • Perform first start, checking for leaks
  • Change oil after idling at 2k rpm for 20 min
  • Change oil and filter again after running another 5 min
  • Test drive both cars, retune fuel
  • Profit!

Ben 10-09-2009 09:04 AM

Okee dokee. Well at least the bosses in the waterpump are threaded. I've seen 1.6 pumps come from Mazda where you had to tap them yourself.

I think I might have just swapped shortblocks.

Braineack 10-09-2009 09:21 AM

i am, but im freshing it up in the process, im not going to be using current block, im going to use neo's once we swap his built motor in first.

Ben 10-09-2009 09:32 AM

Yeah I meant swapping in a good, unmolested block.

It would drive me nuts to not replace the rods and wear parts.

Braineack 10-09-2009 10:57 AM

yeah. it is. dont rub it in.

triple88a 10-09-2009 11:04 AM

hopefully that water pump dont sound like a supercharger :)

Braineack 10-09-2009 12:03 PM

it already does:



I always thought maybe my timing belt was too tight or something, ive just been blaming my tranny for the last three years.

kotomile 10-09-2009 12:34 PM

^ that was mad tyte jdm.

Good luck, you have your work cut out for you!

y8s 10-09-2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 465738)
yeah. it is. dont rub it in.

I'll trade you 2 rods for your 55-200 VR lens....

y8s 10-11-2009 10:34 PM

New camera + d00dz in grease =

...

I wonder if scott realized he left off the big tranny gasket as he was putting on the clutch.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21598-2/scott_002-rsz.JPG

Tools helping tools.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21601-2/scott_003-rsz.JPG

Hoisted in.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21604-2/scott_004-rsz.JPG

http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21607-2/scott_005-rsz.JPG

Distilled is for pussies.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21610-2/scott_006-rsz.JPG

the neogenesis hoodride
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21613-2/scott_007-rsz.JPG

the y8s hoodride
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21616-2/scott_008-rsz.JPG

junk on the workbench
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21619-2/scott_009-rsz.JPG

prepped for pimpin'
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21622-2/scott_010-rsz.JPG

proof he made it around the block.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21625-2/scott_011-rsz.JPG

18psi 10-11-2009 11:09 PM

Good shit

viperormiata 10-12-2009 12:40 AM

Nice man. Your turn around time for anything is incredible.

Braineack 10-12-2009 08:27 AM

I just ended up swapping in his shortblock and bolt good things around it. didnt have enough time to pull out the pistons and swap them. it works, runs strong, so whatever. Im beat from pulling and swapping two motors in one weekend.

Braineack 10-12-2009 08:43 AM

here's some shots of Neo's pull:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0001.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0002.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0003.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0004.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0005.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0006.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0007.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0008.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0009.JPG

DISH!

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0011.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0012.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0013.JPG


That's a 60mm Super 60 T3 wheel on the left, his new wheel on the left. Pretty much going from a T3 based 3060 to a 3071.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0014.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0015.JPG

Splitime 10-12-2009 02:59 PM

Hurm, mail me the old wheel :p

96rdstr 10-12-2009 03:47 PM

Turbo not hit block.

Braineack 10-12-2009 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by 96rdstr (Post 466984)
Turbo not hit block.


its hella close though, and more baller than your mom.

96rdstr 10-12-2009 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 466990)
its hella close though, and more baller than your mom.

I don't know, my mom is pretty baller...

She is 65yo and bought a new Mustang GT convertible.

Grandma can roll.

neogenesis2004 10-12-2009 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 466955)
Hurm, mail me the old wheel :p

I'll trade you for a good condition t3 stg1 turbine housing.

Braineack 10-18-2009 12:56 PM

I'll have logs in a bit, but before I swapped the block I wasn't happy with teh setup. Some of you might remember me even considering a t25 setup. I guess as my block got progressive worse, i got less and less happy. Last log the weekend before the swap I was hitting 12.5psi with an EBC fully closed at 4100RPM. Yesterday I was logging 14.5psi at 3500RPM, MBC only.

I can't believe the transformation the block made. It's funny, before I pulled it, it still made 170psi across the board. But it was obvious from the blow-by and consumption that something was up. Hell, I only drained 3/4qt of oil from the block before swapping...it had just gotten an oil change the month prior and was barely driven.

anyways, discovered the ebay turbo im using has a stainless chra, thats cool too.
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Braineack 10-18-2009 01:27 PM

Comparison logs...

Here's what I logged yesterday; flat road 4th gear:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=1

and here's the last log in Aug I took before I pretty much parked the car waiting to do the swap:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=1

same street, same gearing, same setup.

neogenesis2004 10-18-2009 01:32 PM

We are so win!

boileralum 10-18-2009 02:00 PM

Nice work guys!

I have a tip for anyone else who has the same engine load leveler (I have it too).

http://gallery.y8s.com/d/21604-2/scott_004-rsz.JPG

You can unbolt the chain from the leveler and loop the chain through the factory lift rings, then put the bolt on the leveler through two loops of the chain. This allows the leveler to stay closer to the engine block, which means you don't have to jack your cherry picker up as high. It makes it a lot easier when pulling an engine out by yourself.

Splitime 10-19-2009 01:13 PM

Yah, I do the same thing with my level. Or... find lower points and use all 4points of the leveler to nicely balance it straight on.

Bah.. hard to see really... but it does make a solo job alot simpler.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...d/DSCF0190.jpg

Braineack 10-19-2009 01:17 PM

we have no issues with it at that level.

I've done it various ways:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=1

thesnowboarder 10-19-2009 01:20 PM

God damm, i wish i had a load leveler for the past 3 motors :(

neogenesis2004 10-19-2009 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime
Bah.. hard to see really... but it does make a solo job alot simpler.

That pic needz more v's and q's


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