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jimmyneutron Jul 28, 2014 03:11 AM

Awesome that looks really quite tidy :)
Good stuff

Savington Jul 28, 2014 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1151692)
Our one issue: no tach.

I tried the 1k resistor between IG- and B+, still no luck, these are the instructions I followed:

Any ideas?

Your ECU needs to drive the tach now. The stock ECU won't. AEM does. Not sure about MS, although it probably does.

shlammed Jul 29, 2014 11:55 AM

sooo....
is it fast?


is there any specs out there on the size of the MSM turbo? I just looked and couldn't find any wheel and trim measurements on it.


sounds quiet in that video.

greddygalant Jul 29, 2014 12:49 PM

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we will find out on Thursday :D
turbo specs
Comp. Wheel – 38.5 / 52.15mm
Turbine Wheel – 46.35 / 52.7 mm
Bearing system – Journal Bearing
Cooling System – Water & Oil

Here's a photo of the temporary intake, I plan to build a duct in an air dam over the winter that feeds directly into a filter mounted just inside the bumper.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406653313

turbofan Jul 31, 2014 08:55 PM

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This was me after riding with martin through the chicane today at PIR:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406854516

Damned thing sticks, and pulls. Too bad it got warm. Blowing away the Exige and that irritating Legends car that was losing parts... Just awesome.

I wants MOAR.

greddygalant Jul 31, 2014 09:49 PM

Wow,what a day. Best time was a 1:27.13 according to the AIM in 90ish ambient weather. This is a 5 second improvement and I know the car has more in it considering I was lifting and coasting in some braking zones as I was feeling the car out.

I was only 1 second off John Mans best time today , his car is 320whp with a 350 high boost switch for the straights with aero and 15x9s with nt01s riding on MCS doubles.

Couple issues, car gets warm, needs a cool down every 4-5 hot laps, also, last session of the day as I took known local miata hater Greg Anthony out for a spin one of the heater hoses burst on the back straight at 120mph, boiling fluid came out the hood vents and through the firewall holes and scalded my feet, fortunately I got the car settled it almost lost it when some coolant made it to the rear tires. Ran a 1:27.87 the previous lap with Greg in the car.


Bypassed the heater core and drove it home like a champ. For a first shakedown less than a week after a monumental amount of changes, hats off to Laz and many thanks to all the helping hands along the way. What a car, pics and video coming soon.

greddygalant Jul 31, 2014 11:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2lM...ature=youtu.be
best lap.

Efini~FC3S Aug 1, 2014 08:41 AM

So does this Greg Anthony guy hate miatas even more now that one showered him in a 200 degree golden shower

greddygalant Aug 1, 2014 09:54 AM

He was really impressed actually by Laz actually. It scared the shit out of him in the corners and unfortunately only I managed to have hot coolant land on me :(

Monk Aug 1, 2014 10:04 AM

What is your power/ weight now?

curly Aug 1, 2014 12:03 PM

We haven't weighed or dyno'd yet since the turbo's gone in. There's a little more weight to be added with some planned door bars and the MSM rear subframe brace.

We were at 1890ish without driver and 1/4 tank of gas IIRC, and 125hp. So with Martin's 140lbs, .06hp:1lb.

Can't imagine we added more than 150lbs, and we've since lost the second headlight as well, so let's say 2150lbs with Martin, and a butt dyno of 200hp.

Or roughly .09hp:1lb, or 10.75lb/hp.

The 10ish pounds per horsepower is up (down?) there with STIs, Evos, 300hp 3-series, etc.

turbofan Aug 1, 2014 12:09 PM

Except that you're comparing Laz's wheel HP to the other cars' crank HP.

curly Aug 1, 2014 06:38 PM

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Copying this from the CR thread. Ryan (ThePass) is making some new brake ducts.

It was a great day at CSTG. Parts galore showed up. The oil cooler is all for my smurf, along with the Singular Motorsports 2.5" brake ducts. The 3" Singular brake ducts on the other hand, are all for Laz.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

Up close and personal. Ryan (ThePass) says the gap between the pipe and plate will be snugged up. Even so, these look great.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

And bolted up. I started a timer as I began all this, the car had just rolled into the garage. I cheated by already having the stock dust shields removed years ago, but still. This picture was taken at 6 minutes 46 seconds.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

They provide a very helpful barrier between the heat of the rotors and the end link. A heat shield I've apparently been lacking.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

This is about all you can see with the rotors on. Air shoots right at the rotor.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

And a better shot more or less straight on. Very tight packaging and design. Love it!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406932738

No pictures of it on the ground, since you can't really see anything. It was back down and torqued up at 11 minutes and 3 seconds.

turbofan Aug 1, 2014 06:48 PM

Smurf will now have longer lasting brakes. I like.

Mobius Aug 1, 2014 07:42 PM

Now Josh just needs to grow his pair big enough to actually need bigger brakes going into T4 :)

Looks good I are excite for you.

greddygalant Aug 1, 2014 08:12 PM

Surprisingly the stock 1.6 brakes didn't fade whatsoever despite the extra power that Lazarus had even in 90 degree ambient. This means I can start braking later as I was braking 100+ yards earlier in some spots compared to before.

These ducts will come in handy soon enough, hope to have them installed by BMW club on the 18th.

turbofan Aug 1, 2014 08:18 PM

You're gonna be at the BMW club event too?? Are you an instructor with them?

I'ma need an instructor...

curly Aug 2, 2014 10:12 AM

I should be there on the 18th as well. Just gotta sign up. And many many hours of work.

greddygalant Aug 2, 2014 12:43 PM

Yep im an instructor with them too Ed.

turbofan Aug 2, 2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by greddygalant (Post 1153687)
Surprisingly the stock 1.6 brakes didn't fade whatsoever despite the extra power that Lazarus had even in 90 degree ambient. This means I can start braking later as I was braking 100+ yards earlier in some spots compared to before.

These ducts will come in handy soon enough, hope to have them installed by BMW club on the 18th.

It just occurred to me, why do you still have stock 1.6 brakes on the car when you put the whole undercarriage of the MSM under there?


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