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Old 06-28-2016, 06:28 PM
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I'm sick of fiddling with the stupid aluminum racing beat sway bar support blocks every time I do anything to the car...

Ordered AWR front sway bar mounts.
Ugh, they have to be the most annoying design ever. I'm sure they're the most time consuming step of swapping the front shocks or springs.
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Lol at the thread title change again... my nickname in track and field was italian stallion!
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Originally Posted by Junkwhale
Ugh, they have to be the most annoying design ever. I'm sure they're the most time consuming step of swapping the front shocks or springs.
Why would you take the sway bar off to change the shocks? It's way easier to just unbolt the lower balljoint.

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I could kiss you.
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Originally Posted by codrus
Why would you take the sway bar off to change the shocks? It's way easier to just unbolt the lower balljoint.

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Its even easier to have bushings that rotate properly. Then you don't need to remove anything.
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^you're saying that with the delrin bushings I can just unbolt four bolts on each shock and that's it?

*whistles....
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3 bolts per shock, but yes.

Should work with well lubricated poly bushings too. But I pulled my shocks out with delrin bushings and both arms were installed.
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It didn't work on my car with well-lubed poly bushings, but it was close. Probably depends on things like shock length, offset upper arm bushings, NA vs NB, etc.

Lower balljoint is easy, though. The three bolts on the shocks, one bolt on the end link, two bolts holding the "tongue" to the lower arm.

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haha, I was picturing the bottom portion of a miata and the tophat of a subaru lol.... oh boy.

Yeah, I'm putting in grease fittings on the delrin.

I am not ashamed to say I'm sexually excited thinking about swapping spring rates in like 4 minutes.
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delrin bushings don't really need grease, it's polyurethane ones that need lubing. Alas, you can't really lube the polys properly unless you take them out (even with zerk fittings the grease won't go in all the places it needs to go) and delrins are unsuitable for the alignment bolt positions.

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^I have the poly bushings for the eccentric bolt locations.

Update! Just ordered Trackspeed 16 row oil cooler kit, and the coolant reroute plugs. I'll try to install the plug when I drain the coolant for the intercooler install.

Does anyone know if the oil cooler kit is all inclusive? Like do I need to buy anything else to install it correctly? Thanks
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You need a mounting solution for the cooler itself. And wrenches to build the AN lines. And something to cut the lines with.
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Ok, I have the tools, I think I could mount the cooler onto the rotrex oil cooler bracket, located in the air ducting behind the driver's fog light.

Or at least mount some tabs to the bracket.
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Ok, I have the tools, I think I could mount the cooler onto the rotrex oil cooler bracket, located in the air ducting behind the driver's fog light.

Or at least mount some tabs to the bracket.

COOOOOOOOOOOOL. just got a text from Jason Owenby, of JO Motorsports...

I shipped him my trans, along with the Miata Roadster angled shifter kit, as installed...

He says there seems to be a bushing missing, and EVERY SHIFT FORK is damaged because of it... He recommends the stock shifter.

I'm really glad I upgrade my car. Also really glad that I threw out the stock shifter setup.
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There isn't a bushing in the shifter that would cause a damaged shift fork. The only bushing there is the one on the end of the ball.

I think I have a stock shifter laying around. Trade you for the short shifter
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Yeah, or the 76,000 miles on a clutch with a flywheel bearing a centimeter out.

I definitely like to shift fast.

I'm asking Jason to machine shift forks that are more durable.. we'll see what happens.
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So NASCAR trans builders are using some new techniques to lengthen the intervals between rebuilds, and Jason will attempt to apply those processes to my trans.

I'll know more when he does, I'll keep you guys updated.

He also sent some pics, I'll put those up later this evening.
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Just a quick picture of the guts of my transmission! If you look past the foggy lens, there is a 6 speed.

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