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sr20det_28 12-03-2012 07:37 PM

Never ending, Mostly winter, turbo NB project.
 
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Hi! i'm new here, i'm from Quebec, Canada.
Bought my NB July 2010, my 3rd winter off.
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This is what it looked like when i bought it, the previous owner got a NB2 bumper on but "fitted" the NB1 headlight + El cheapo universal fog lights.

So this is 2010, i got it off the road for winter n.1.
The project was :
-Maintenance
-Suspension
-Chassis
-Mild Performance upgrade

So i got the t-belt done and all front seals/water pump. Being there, i tought good to get a MSM cam, wich had a bit more lift, butg good enought with stock ECM.
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Got some OEM fog lights
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Bossfrog frog arms
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Tein SS with New OEM mounts
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K&N and acc.
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RB RSFB and Axle-Back
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SS Brake hose
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No pro washer bottle and coolant bottle
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FM stage I clutch w/10.3lbs FW
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FM sways/Energy suspension bushings/ RB endlinks
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TR motorsport w/ S.drive 205/50R15
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So the winter finished like that

So i got to the summer and keeped going

New top and style bar delete
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RB headers, custom intake heat shield.
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And that is how she sit before winter n.2!
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18psi 12-03-2012 07:40 PM

your hood is broken
fix it

otherwise nice

sr20det_28 12-03-2012 08:09 PM

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So winter n.2 started off quite quickly!
The goal was :
Turbo
Roll bar
Front face lift

Parts came pretty early, end of november.
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So there we had it, For the front, i got a TR lip, JDM NB2 Headlights and some HID kits for Hi and Lo
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This is how i manage to get hi and lo work at the same time when on Hi
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The i got the rollbar in.
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PAARRTTSSS
MiataRoaster Short shifter kit, Stock height
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Mazdaspeed Motormounts, Slave cylinder and 949 Stainless hose(long)
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Getting the shifter in
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Old motor mounts!
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Then, thing got serious about the turbo project, so again ordered some stuff!
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And then this arrived
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It's a voodoo II kit from Flyin' miata, wich hardware wise, is pretty amazing for the price. but i was'nt pleased with the piggyback systems.
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And then, we were spring again!
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But i could'nt stop, 3inch exhaust
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Again! 95 T1 diff, moroso catch can
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And this is how summer n.2 ended.

sr20det_28 12-03-2012 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 955612)
your hood is broken
fix it

otherwise nice

Hood risers have been removed!

sr20det_28 12-03-2012 08:22 PM

Now for winter n.3
This is what i have in mind!

Engine management(since i hate voodoo and static retard) This is were i am going to need you guys!
Fuel(Fuel pump, Rail, Injectors)
Coolant reroute
Minor body fix


This is were my mind is blinded, ECU's
i never tuned a car before, but i work on cars everyday, and i troubleshoot them as well.
i'm not sure on what ECU to go too w/ my non-experience.
Checked out hydra for long, but they are expensive, and people around here don't seem to like it that much.
Checked out alot the MS, but then i have a few choice(in plug n play) The MS2 PnP or the Braineak version MS3.
Did'nt check much the Adaptronic or the AEM

So do you guys have any suggestion on what to look for. i need a solid base map for sure. Remember i'm with stock interns, have a GT2560, and don't plan on much more than 10-12PSI

And i am open on any suggestion for fuel pump, injectors and rail
(i had Walbro 255, rx-8 inj., and M-tuned rail w/ some sort of ajustable regulator in mind)

18psi 12-03-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by sr20det_28 (Post 955622)
Hood risers have been removed!

very good :)

Now I can get back to enjoying your progress.

So far I'm liking it a lot. Good job

sr20det_28 12-03-2012 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 955643)
very good :)

Now I can get back to enjoying your progress.

So far I'm liking it a lot. Good job

hahaha thanks:bigtu:

Fireindc 12-04-2012 04:16 PM

Go megasquirt. Stock fuel pump is fine, get some 500+cc injectors.

Build looks great so far.

sr20det_28 12-04-2012 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 955912)
Go megasquirt. Stock fuel pump is fine, get some 500+cc injectors.

Build looks great so far.

I read alot of stock 99+ pump that they then to go lean approching redline, wich is with mine, i just don't know if it's that OR the injector, i'm still running stock injectors, wich i think are pretty small running 9psi.

sr20det_28 12-04-2012 06:40 PM

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Oh, and, i love that one!
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richyvrlimited 12-05-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by sr20det_28 (Post 955948)
I read alot of stock 99+ pump that they then to go lean approching redline, wich is with mine, i just don't know if it's that OR the injector, i'm still running stock injectors, wich i think are pretty small running 9psi.

It's your injectors.

Fireindc 12-05-2012 01:07 PM

That list pic is neat, lol.

And I agree it's your injectors.. Get an EMS and some injectors, then tune it. If you cant get enough fuel to run your target AFR (high 11's) then you may need a pump. Until then i highly doubt the pump is the issue.

viperormiata 12-05-2012 05:11 PM

Nice car! FM really does make a nice kit.

18psi 12-05-2012 07:21 PM

basically you need all 3 to do it right.
if you're spending money on injectors and ems, its idiotic not to get a $80 walbro pump too

sr20det_28 12-05-2012 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 956320)
basically you need all 3 to do it right.
if you're spending money on injectors and ems, its idiotic not to get a $80 walbro pump too

thats what i tought, i have all winter, so i'll do it right the first time! the problem is, will the stock regulator handle the 255?
or will i need to make a return system out off my returnless?

18psi 12-05-2012 07:43 PM

yes. mine handled the 255 HP just fine.
others reported the same
or you could just get the 190HP which is even cheaper and will still work just fine for your power level

sr20det_28 12-05-2012 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 956291)
Nice car! FM really does make a nice kit.

Thanks! yes they do!

sr20det_28 12-05-2012 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 956329)
yes. mine handled the 255 HP just fine.
others reported the same
or you could just get the 190HP which is even cheaper and will still work just fine for your power level

I'm planning maxing the GT25 in a few years(built engine), so maybe the best would be to go for the 255, for the price difference...

I'm just not sure about the fuel rail, i affraid to be a bit overkill for the output i want this summer.

Fireindc 12-05-2012 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 956320)
basically you need all 3 to do it right.
if you're spending money on injectors and ems, its idiotic not to get a $80 walbro pump too

What isn't "doing it right" about my setup, which uses a new oem pump with the 550cc injectors and MSPNP.

I've yet to have fueling problems so far. Serious question, btw - because I was under the assumption that the stock pump is fine.

richyvrlimited 12-06-2012 03:47 AM

Unless you're running high fuel pressures the stock pump is fine. I don't really know why 18psi is recommending one.

Plenty of cars make 250+ with the stock pump, as long as you have appropriately sized injectors for the power you want to make and AFR's are holding steady (and PW doesn't spike dramatically implying the pump is not supplying the fuel you need).

The stock pump can flow enough fuel for 300bhp, just. It's worth re-wiring it with it's own direct relayed fuse though

See SlowMX5 - ECU and Electronics for guidance on re-wiring the pump.


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