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Old 05-22-2014, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by turbofan
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you're joking.....................


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Serious as a heart attack. I'm even hoping to conscript you into tuning it. You or Andrew, depends on who has time or is receptive I guess. What say you?

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It's only the little one, I'm not Russian.
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I'm so jelly I can't even think right now.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I'm so jelly I can't even think right now.
Don't think, just feel, baby.

Besides, now that I've commissioned and paid for a manifold and downpipe I'm pretty sure the TSE kit will be released any time now
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I vote for leaving the lip black because it is going to meet things such as parking curbs, and pavement entering/leaving places with a slope, and it will flex, and paint will crack off. you will be lowering the car, so be realistic.

Looks great. The paint came out fantastic.
Congrats
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Thanks! It was far too long coming.

And yes, I forgot it was there and scraped it coming out of the *** Hill parking lot at lunchtime today.
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forget the lip talk let talk your engine setup.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:27 PM
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Its not that complicated, its just a BP4W build. I'm not doing anything dramatically different than anyone else, this is the same built engine formula that's known to work and I see no reason to screw with it.

Things I has:
  • Supertech 83.5mm pistons @ 8.6:1 CR (P4-MA8350-N4)
  • Wiseco XX rings, 83.5mm
  • Manley Forged H-Beam rods w/ARP 2000 3/8" bolts (14011-4)
  • ACL Rod bearings (4B8351H-STD)
  • ACL Main bearings (5M8353H-STD)
  • ACL Thrust bearings (1T8353H-STD)
  • Supertech valve stem seals (VS-T6E/VS-T6I)
  • ARP head studs (218-4701)
  • Hondata Intake Manifold Heatshield Gasket
  • BP5A intake cam (BP5A-12-420)
  • SuperMiata Harmonic Balancer
  • Skunk2 64mm throttle body
  • Squaretop

Things I needs:
  • OEM Gasket kit
  • Fancy SuperMiata water pump
  • Fancy Gates Blue timing belt set

Things I'm probably going to buy:
  • Oil pump
  • ARP main studs (218-5401)

Camel **** 91 is the "best" fuel I currently have available thus the low compression ratio. I'd love to build an E85 huffing monstrosity but that's just not an option out this way. I convinced myself that the extra expense of the 0.5mm overbore was worth it "while I was in there" and would give me peace of mind as to bore concentricity with the new pistons rather than just honing the stock bores and hoping for the best.

<deep breath> While I will be paying someone to do the machine work, I will be doing the assembly myself. I have the tools and the knowledge to do this so its time I step up and make it happen.

I know this is going to sound insane but I'm trying really hard not to get sucked into the fully built head game, because that's some big ******* money. IIRC Sloviet made like 350+hp on a 6258 with a stock 4W head so I see no reason to fall down that rabbit hole. The head will get a full refresh with fancy valve job, guides, and Supertech seals but that's about it. If it turns out the valves need to be replaced I'll consider SS valves or go nuts with inconel on the exhaust side, but thats a big fat IF right now.

I'm somewhat proud of the fact that my "need" list is shorter than my "has" list. There are still some big ticket items I need to make some decisions about such as an oil pump, but I have some time.
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That's a really solid plan and list. No need to overcomplicate things.
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I've been watching and reading and assembling parts for a long, long time. To give you an idea of how long, my Squaretop was purchased new from an overseas Mazda dealer as soon as I was able to determine the part number. I paid less for a NIB OEM Squaretop than most people have paid for ratty *** used ones. I bought my Supermiata harmonic damper as part of the preorder on the first production run. I think I even had my 5A cam before 949 had them posted FS on their website.

So yeah, I've been hoarding **** for a while now

And you are absolutely right, simple is better.
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Looking awesome man! I am loving all of the EFRs I keep seeing pop up on this forum. So much win.
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Thanks man! This is why I keep prodding you for updates in your build thread
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The inconel exhaust valves, they resist the burning so well, allowing you to run allofit. Maybe do the dual springs as well go get rid of the harmonic?
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Have I missed your plans for an adapter to bolt the turbo to the head?
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I was wondering who bought the kit I saw Brian post on his Fab9 facebook page! Holy sweetness man! Goin' ***** to the wall!
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Originally Posted by curly
Have I missed your plans for an adapter to bolt the turbo to the head?
Why, ARTech of course. I ordered the same equal length top-mount manifold and 3" downpipe as Swimming108. Here's pics I jacked from his build thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...llo-efr-77075/





Again, not my pics but almost the same exact manifold and DP. Abe says slight revision was made to the #1 runner to clear the coolant outlet so I shouldn't have to mess with anything. I should have my own pics in the beginning of July.

Gesso does not know it yet, but I'm going to attempt to convince him to build me an exhaust.

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I was wondering who bought the kit I saw Brian post on his Fab9 facebook page! Holy sweetness man! Goin' ***** to the wall!
Yep, that was probably mine. I was actually kinda disappointed that the EFR box had been opened and everything was all fingerprinty

Fab9 got me the rods, pistons, bearings and 6258. Free shipping, no tax and THEMAN discount pushed me over the edge once my tax return showed up. The wife and I talked about it and with house and kid stuff projected for the next year or two, it was probably a good idea to get this stuff out of the way now if I was ever going to actually follow through with it.

So I done did it, and I did it in spades.

(Funny story: I was actually really drunk when I placed the Fab9 order and accidentally ordered a 6758. They caught the error based on the notes in my drunken correspondence and fixed it for me, but not before taking the opportunity to scare the **** out of me )

I've also managed to work a different DD into the deal as I'm sure the Miata will be a little touch-and-go for a while
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(slowly removes lotion and box of Kleenex from desk)


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The car looks great, but that turbo is really giving me a boner.
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