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Old 04-10-2017, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
You will probably do well to never take me literally (or even seriously).

Speaking in general terms, here is what I have recently observed about FI Miatas at the track: if It isn't N/A, a Rotrex, one of FM's newer offerings with inconel, or presumably a TSE setup, its owner will be standing around with the hood up after session 2, what that "Come hither. I need to tell someone of my tales of woe." look in his eyes.
I think stefanst tracks his setup and if I recall correctly, it's one of the gen 1 (ie ancient) FM setups.
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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
You will probably do well to never take me literally (or even seriously).

Speaking in general terms, here is what I have recently observed about FI Miatas at the track: if It isn't N/A, a Rotrex, one of FM's newer offerings with inconel, or presumably a TSE setup, its owner will be standing around with the hood up after session 2, what that "Come hither. I need to tell someone of my tales of woe." look in his eyes.
So there is nothing wrong with the FM/Begi cast manifolds. They hold up to track abuse fine. It is the inconel studs that are needed to make them reliable. It just happened to be Savington who really figured it out, and then got a solution made. It also depends on how fast you are. If you are slower then spec miata times then you will have far less problems then people who are faster then them.
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We should move any further discussion of track reliability to my "bolts stuff on" thread, so as not to clutter RTC's thread any more than we already have.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
You are on a way old firmware, I would bet somewhere in the 1.3.x range. At least from looking at that table that would be my guess. More options in the 1.4.x and 1.5.x firmwares.
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Yeah Lars is correctomundo, I'm on 1.5.

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We should move any further discussion of track reliability to my "bolts stuff on" thread, so as not to clutter RTC's thread any more than we already have.
Why? Lets give Aidan's thread some competition!

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Holy **** that was fast!
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Originally Posted by shuiend
You are on a way old firmware, I would bet somewhere in the 1.3.x range. At least from looking at that table that would be my guess. More options in the 1.4.x and 1.5.x firmwares.
there are less options on that screen in 1.5.0 actually... all the activation stuff is now handled by the engine states stuff.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
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Originally Posted by Braineack
there are less options on that screen in 1.5.0 actually... all the activation stuff is now handled by the engine states stuff.
1.5:

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Originally Posted by aidandj
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you're gonna need to step your post whoring game way up to compete with the King
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Why? Lets give Aidan's thread some competition!

To catch Aidan, you will have to break things. A LOT of things. ALLTHETHINGS.
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You never had me.
You never had your car.
Too soon junior.
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Originally Posted by 18psi


you're gonna need to step your post whoring game way up to compete with the King
I just have to get him to start posting in here more!

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To catch Aidan, you will have to break things. A LOT of things. ALLTHETHINGS.
Plz nuuuuuu.

My miata chronicles currently involve my pushing my car so that the exhaust is outside the garage, trying to tune things, having it fail enough to start getting low voltage readings, then giving up, pushing the car back into the garage, and putting the battery back on the tender.

I remember a day when it used to move on it's own power. It'd be nice to drive this thing after spending 10-12hrs in the library... Soon, I hope!

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:shrug:

When asked, Rev said there wasn't a good reason to upgrade. He said if there wasn't a particular function I was looking for then not to do it. I don't know what I'm missing and it runs fine.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
:shrug:

When asked, Rev said there wasn't a good reason to upgrade. He said if there wasn't a particular function I was looking for then not to do it. I don't know what I'm missing and it runs fine.
Six, I suggest at least 1.4.0 for some of the fixes that needed happening. Rev is on that release. I'm on 1.4.1 with good success.

The shot you posted looks pretty good, except I cannot understand more than a tiny bit of derivative (like 0-2). However, I've never played with more. AND, using Initial Values Table / Use MAT is work to tune, but worth the effort for consistency, IMO.

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For future reference... when one gives the MAP sensor a vacuum source, one should make sure that said vacuum source is actually a vacuum source...

Car officially 'runs' on megasquirt. I just need to reload the basemap or copy-paste the VE idle table from the basemap because I had to mess with that with a false vac source and I want to start fresh. Hopefully I'll be driving it soon.
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