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turbofan 10-12-2015 11:59 AM

I'm sure I did Richard. But even so, I very much would expect 949 to stand behind their product. Obviously this was a failure of build quality.

Btabor, great point. That does seem very likely.

emilio700 10-12-2015 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 1274196)
The top several rows of tubes had broken from the end-tank, weeping coolant. The radiator was mounted using all 4 stock rubber mounts, so if it was stress then it was more than the rubber could deflect. I'm leaning towards poor build quality. This is at 230wHP, re-route, no A/C, and better-than-stock ducting. Certainly way far off from 949's performance assertions of 300wHP with A/C.

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Ryephile 10-12-2015 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by leboeuf (Post 1274299)
It certainly appears that you've made up your mind, but generally when a radiator springs a leak, the system looses pressure, which drops the boiling point of the coolant. The lowered boiling point then allows overheating.

Its possible that your #2 caused your #1.

That is a great thinking cap response. However, I must not have effectively explained the order of operations and how the evidence presented itself.

1.) cooling capacity found to be acceptable during upper 70's ambient temp [195F coolant]
2.) cooling capacity found to be marginal during mid 80's ambient temp [205F and rising slowly]
3.) cooling capacity found to be unacceptable during 90 degree ambient temp and 120 deg F track temp [215F and rising rapidly down the straightaway, requiring a full cool-down lap to be at 190F]
4.) about 6 more heat cycles at hot ambient temp
5.) got the car home [143 mile drive], parked it in the garage, unpacked.
6.) 30 minutes -ish later *then* the radiator broke and made a puddle on the garage floor. Found broken brazing.


So, while I totally agree that a failed radiator would impact the cooling capacity due to the lowered boiling point, there was no evidence of mechanical failure at the track or on the drive home. The two situations appeared to be sequential and I'm not sure they were strictly correlated.


Also, email sent to Emilio.

Ryephile 10-12-2015 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by mx592 (Post 1274229)
Really liking this car. Very clean, professional work.

What kind of times are you posting at Grattan? I live about 20 minutes away!


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1274273)
What kind of times are you running at Waterford?

Thanks. I don't keep track of lap times, I'm just out there to run clean laps that feel good, and to make sure I'm just slightly quicker than my track buddies. Join me for a track day next year :)

acedeuce802 10-12-2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 1274548)
Thanks. I don't keep track of lap times, I'm just out there to run clean laps that feel good, and to make sure I'm just slightly quicker than my track buddies. Join me for a track day next year :)

Makes sense! I did one open track day and one time trials at Waterford in September this year. Hope to see you out there next year!

Efini~FC3S 10-12-2015 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 1274548)
Thanks. I don't keep track of lap times

But how do you measure yourself against other golfers?

Mobius 10-13-2015 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1274591)
But how do you measure yourself against other golfers?

But how do you measure yourself against other assholes?

I mean, do you deliberately do this, or is it an innate talent? You can make some really abrasive, fucktard comments.

If your post was meant to be satire, tongue-in-cheek, friendly good humor, then I'll go ahead and apologize right now. But that's not how I read it, and I imagine it's not how a lot of others read it as well.

Efini~FC3S 10-13-2015 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1274641)
If your post was meant to be satire, tongue-in-cheek, friendly good humor, then I'll go ahead and apologize right now. But that's not how I read it, and I imagine it's not how a lot of others read it as well.

It's from Caddieshack (the movie).

One of the characters (Judge Schmells (sp?)), can't comprehend how one of the other characters (Chevy Chase) can play golf and not keep score. It's a hilarious back and forth from a hilarious movie.

Track day people and racers most often fall into the same thinking, how can you possibly not keep score? How do you measure yourself as a race car driver guy if you don't have times to compare.

Honestly and truthfully, it was meant as friendly good humor. It's actually refreshing to hear that someone (Ryephile) can enjoy driving on track and not have to worry about lap times, much the same way that Chevy's character can enjoy playing golf and not need to keep score.

I fall into the previous thinking, and unfortunately can't enjoy myself on track without racing against someone or something. It's an unfortunate disease.


No offense, I know I come off as a d*ck sometimes (most times?), but was just trying to have a little movie reference joke.

Cheers

Mobius 10-13-2015 02:03 PM

That was a good reference that I totally missed.


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Ryephile 10-13-2015 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1274591)
But how do you measure yourself against other golfers?

LOL, I got the reference. As you noted, Chevy Chase's character was also the only player on the green that enjoyed simply playing the game. :friday:


On another note, I must say I don't mind being proven wrong when it's legitimate. Emilio stepped up his game and not only offered me a refund on the Supermiata radiator, but also emailed me a FedEx label to return the radiator so he can learn from it. I'll admit, I'm impressed. Thanks Emilio.

emilio700 10-14-2015 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 1274936)
.. Emilio stepped up his game and not only offered me a refund on the Supermiata radiator, but also emailed me a FedEx label to return the radiator so he can learn from it. I'll admit, I'm impressed. Thanks Emilio.

That is SOP

turbofan 10-14-2015 01:16 PM

ryephile, have you had some kind of bad experience with 949 in the past that would lead you to believe they WOULDN'T make it right?

Efini~FC3S 10-14-2015 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1275092)
ryephile, have you had some kind of bad experience with 949 in the past that would lead you to believe they WOULDN'T make it right?

^ This


I think Mobious thought I was trying to make a joke or trying to knock 949 earlier in this thread. I was well and truly just confused.

turbofan 10-14-2015 05:20 PM

I mean, he just posted that it failed, wasn't up to snuff, and that he didn't expect them to stand behind their product. Seems like that'd have to come from a prior bad experience, rather than just assuming the worst from a vendor.

Either way, glad you found a solution.

Savington 10-15-2015 04:56 AM

Just FYI, that Springfield radiator you replaced the SPM unit with is notorious in the Spec Miata world for randomly popping core leaks. Most racers with an SD rad in the car keep a spare in the trailer as well. Watch yours very, very closely.

Ryephile 10-16-2015 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1275123)
I mean, he just posted that it failed, wasn't up to snuff, and that he didn't expect them to stand behind their product. Seems like that'd have to come from a prior bad experience, rather than just assuming the worst from a vendor.

Either way, glad you found a solution.

It's less common that aftermarket vendors give two squirts about their rep or aftersales. If a few along the way want to raise the bar, I'm OK with that. No need to read into it further.



Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1275237)
Just FYI, that Springfield radiator you replaced the SPM unit with is notorious in the Spec Miata world for randomly popping core leaks. Most racers with an SD rad in the car keep a spare in the trailer as well. Watch yours very, very closely.


As for the SD being notorious, I'm aware. It's also common that those that have failures with them notoriously mis-install them.

How is yours different, given you have what appears to be a competitive product?

emilio700 10-21-2015 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 1275569)
It's less common that aftermarket vendors give two squirts about their rep or aftersales. If a few along the way want to raise the bar, I'm OK with that. No need to read into it further.?

"I do not expect 949 to stand behind their product"
vs
"I do not expect any vendor to stand behind their product"


"Emilio stepped up his game and not only offered me a refund.."
vs
"Emilio stepped up the game and not only offered me a refund.."

As you posted it verbatim, there is only one way to read into it. I'm sorry the radiator didn't work for you.

Ryephile 11-11-2015 09:48 PM

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Finally got Blackbird Fabworx's "all function, no form" spoiler installed. It's certainly rough-style like a Rocket Bunny, but the directions were spot-on with their measurements. I won't have any A/B lap times, but doing some Interstate blasts it does appear to make the car more stable at higher speeds in a similar but less pronounced way to when I installed an improved diffuser on my Exige S. That right there is more positive than I expected, so thumbs-up to Moti. :bigtu:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447296481IMG_7492.jpg by Ryephile, on Flickr

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447296481IMG_7498.jpg by Ryephile, on Flickr

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447296481IMG_7503.jpg by Ryephile, on Flickr

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447296481IMG_7504.jpg by Ryephile, on Flickr


The not-so-hot news is it feels like the ACT 6-puck clutch is starting to already give out. It's not slipping, but the engagement slip is becoming less and less consistent [you can get one quality engagement out of it when it's stone-cold, but after that it's a looser cannon than Sterling Archer], not to mention it's generally terrible for street driving, or anytime you have to engage 1st, or reverse. It also honks like an elephant in mating season. Definitely the worst clutch I've ever owned.

Savington 11-12-2015 07:05 PM

I owned an HD 6-puck setup in 07-08 because I wanted the light pedal, but it was never a very nice clutch to drive every day. For my '02SE, I did an XT with a full-face organic sprung disc this time around and I am much happier. Same torque capacity and much more streetable, and if you aren't a huge wimp, the pedal pressure is a non-issue. I DD mine in stop and go traffic all the time and it's fine.

Ryephile 11-16-2015 10:47 PM

I just finished flashing my MS3 Basic to the latest firmware 1.4.1 beta 2. All the settings ported back over really easy, but in the long term I'd like to get the new Percent Baro calculation to work, it's on "old mode" right now so my current tune works. Did a short drive with open loop boost and so far so good. I look forward to re-doing the CL boost controller, as that part of the firmware in 1.3.4 had plenty of room for improvement.

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