Shuiend tries built motor #4, lets see how I break this one - Page 31 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-10-2011, 04:02 PM   #601
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
TurboTim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chesterfield, NJ
Posts: 6,457
Total Cats: 244
Default

Coming along with Lars' manifold. I already removed the T2 flange, taking a break to have a beer and post a pic.

More pics here:
Lars' failboat

This bitch is HEAVY.
TurboTim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 04:07 PM   #602
Junior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 254
Total Cats: 3
Default

That is looking really good.
kww502 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 04:16 PM   #603
mkturbo.com
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,715
Total Cats: 1,084
Default

OMG I need to change my shorts.

Tim you are awesome. How heavy do you think it is. Do you think some sort of brace might be needed?
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 06:26 PM   #604
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
TurboTim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chesterfield, NJ
Posts: 6,457
Total Cats: 244
Default

A brace would be a good idea. I haven't thought about it much and don't know what it'd cost. I don't have the exact weight right now but it seems like at least twice the weight of the usual manifold I make.

I predict massive cracking in your future son!!
TurboTim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 07:14 PM   #605
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTim View Post
I predict massive cracking in your future son!!
Lol

that is looking AWESOME.

Regarding bracing, what would happen if you put those bars back on? Would that not work because of heat expansion?
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 07:16 PM   #606
I'm a terrible person
iTrader: (19)
 
FRT_Fun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 7,293
Total Cats: 180
Default

My god that is huge.
FRT_Fun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 09:39 PM   #607
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
TurboTim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chesterfield, NJ
Posts: 6,457
Total Cats: 244
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faeflora View Post
Lol

that is looking AWESOME.

Regarding bracing, what would happen if you put those bars back on? Would that not work because of heat expansion?
Those bars are my quickie build jig. I actually don't have build jigs for any manifold so I had to make one to be sure it put the turbo sorta where I wanted it (same place as the typical centered/low mount version of mine). I think doing horizontal bracing like that won't work as well as a brace from the top to support the weight. Perhaps from the valve cover like a crane. From underneath might be difficult due to the compressor being in the way. Remember this is getting a tial vband and MVS. And it needs to be done for some sort of meet you all are doing at the end of the month.

But HORRAY for prototypes. Your guesses are as good as mine as to what this will really do (performance or durability) once it's used hard. Andrew's manifold broke straight away and his MVS fell off, this might too. muhahhahaaa.

not funny.
TurboTim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 09:58 PM   #608
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,107
Total Cats: 351
Default

Hit that **** with a wire wheel, have some dignity.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:00 PM   #609
mkturbo.com
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,715
Total Cats: 1,084
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler View Post
Hit that **** with a wire wheel, have some dignity.
Can we let Tim at least finish welding the bitch together before it gets made all pretty?
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:14 PM   #610
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,004
Total Cats: 398
Default

y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:23 PM   #611
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
TurboTim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chesterfield, NJ
Posts: 6,457
Total Cats: 244
Default

Put him in a body bag johnny!

They should be wire wheeled prior to welding for maximum prettiness. But, per my sig, I'm lazy. Don't take that as a lack of pride in my work. I went back and forth. There's some in there that's polished then I was like...ehh **** I need to finish this thing. Sorry Lars. You can wire wheel it
TurboTim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:47 PM   #612
mkturbo.com
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,715
Total Cats: 1,084
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTim View Post
Put him in a body bag johnny!

They should be wire wheeled prior to welding for maximum prettiness. But, per my sig, I'm lazy. Don't take that as a lack of pride in my work. I went back and forth. There's some in there that's polished then I was like...ehh **** I need to finish this thing. Sorry Lars. You can wire wheel it
How about I just heat cycle the **** out of it? I was never one to have to have the prettiest looking manifold.
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:59 PM   #613
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,107
Total Cats: 351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuiend View Post
How about I just heat cycle the **** out of it? I was never one to have to have the prettiest looking manifold.
I hit the top side with a wheel. It looked pretty until a few dozen hours of glrowing, now it just looks cool and hazy.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 08:05 PM   #614
mkturbo.com
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,715
Total Cats: 1,084
Default

I seem to be missing something.
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 11:08 PM   #615
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuiend View Post
I seem to be missing something.
Looks like there's room for glory!

Is that rust on your block from that old problem you had?

Also, if I were you I would route that heater return the lonnnng way around the coldside. I'm going to do that myself to a) hide the hose a bit and b) get it away from the hotness more.

Oh oh oh and by the way did you move that stupid trans-frame ground strap from the frame onto the valve cover? I hate that ******.
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 11:19 PM   #616
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oakdale, CA
Posts: 1,349
Total Cats: 65
Default

I was happy when I got my new wastegate with the water ports and all the different springs, I was actually kinda surprised. I didnt know all that was included with the new wastegates, I just ordered it. I did a quick search on google and it seems like people say the water ports are useless and wont do anything. Then someone chimed in and said it was the Miata guys that where melting diaphragms and thats why they introduced the water cooled ones. I for sure am going to run mine with the lines hooked up, they're there might as well use them.
RyanRaduechel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 11:32 PM   #617
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
TurboTim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chesterfield, NJ
Posts: 6,457
Total Cats: 244
Default

I'm sure it has more to do with their watercraft customers but whatev. Bonus for us!
TurboTim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 11:32 PM   #618
mkturbo.com
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,715
Total Cats: 1,084
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faeflora View Post
Looks like there's room for glory!

Is that rust on your block from that old problem you had?

Also, if I were you I would route that heater return the lonnnng way around the coldside. I'm going to do that myself to a) hide the hose a bit and b) get it away from the hotness more.

Oh oh oh and by the way did you move that stupid trans-frame ground strap from the frame onto the valve cover? I hate that ******.
The rust is from the first time the motor was built. I just did not clean it off. Maybe I will do that now that I am waiting on Tim.

That "heater core" line goes down to my lower coolant hose. It would be an absolute bitch to route it around the other side of the motor. It would have to do a 180 turn right as it leaves the head.

No I still have it going from the trans frame to the chassis.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanRaduechel View Post
I was happy when I got my new wastegate with the water ports and all the different springs, I was actually kinda surprised. I didnt know all that was included with the new wastegates, I just ordered it. I did a quick search on google and it seems like people say the water ports are useless and wont do anything. Then someone chimed in and said it was the Miata guys that where melting diaphragms and thats why they introduced the water cooled ones. I for sure am going to run mine with the lines hooked up, they're there might as well use them.
Since it is water cooled I will run water to it. Will just be some extra lines.
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 01:05 AM   #619
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oakdale, CA
Posts: 1,349
Total Cats: 65
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTim View Post
I'm sure it has more to do with their watercraft customers but whatev. Bonus for us!
Now I'm gonna have to look into this, personally I think its pretty damn cool and it is a bonus
RyanRaduechel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 08:41 AM   #620
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,503
Total Cats: 1,710
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuiend View Post
That "heater core" line goes down to my lower coolant hose. It would be an absolute bitch to route it around the other side of the motor. It would have to do a 180 turn right as it leaves the head.

While I'm happy after 3 years of me bitching to you you finally moved your heater core outlet back to where it belongs, but you need to take a length of hose, split it down the middle and slip it over the frame/metal to protect the hose from rubbing through.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
330whp/343wtq 2005 MSM - $16,500 - CO 05pearl Cars for sale/trade 21 05-17-2017 08:12 AM
Making my daily, less of a daily 96morbst Meet and Greet 11 04-16-2016 03:08 PM
2000 Miata brain built MS3. Idle issues/ give my tune a look? sickmiatabra MEGAsquirt 0 04-13-2016 09:54 PM
Engine refresh plan beatle Engine Performance 13 03-06-2016 02:07 PM


Tags
patsmx5 is dumb

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:00 PM.