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HalalBuilt 02-02-2024 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by SimBa (Post 1645482)
Your head on its way to the hot tank looks better than when I got mine back. If only PO's knew how/when to change oil...

Haha. To be fair, those photos were taken after some simple green and a power washer.


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1645506)
If you're using stock cast pistons you're not going to get to the power levels where cylinder wall integrity becomes a problem anyways. You opted for a much weaker piston to get 83.225mm bore size if I'm reading the specs correctly, when you could have done 83.5mm with forged? The difference of 0.275mm bore size is not going to suddenly make it way more resilient, but using forged instead of the cast pistons definitely makes a difference in the 300whp+ range. Plenty of people running 83.5mm or 84mm bore sizes are at 400+whp, but stock cast pistons would be the weak link at that point.

I hope this isn't the last time I build this motor. I would like to keep this car for a while if possible, put lots of track time on it, and develop the car along with my skills. My current goals are sub 300whp. But if needed in the future, I wouldn't mind rebuilding to accommodate higher goals.

Very possible I could be making a mistake, but I considered a bunch of advice and experience on here. I appreciate your feedback though! Kinda wish I got it sooner. :likecat:

SimBa 02-02-2024 01:23 PM

[QUOTE=HalalBuilt;1645836]Haha. To be fair, those photos were taken after some simple green and a power washer.

I thought I was single handedly keeping Simple Green in business during my build. Simple Green and a crockpot is a very effective DIY hot tank for smaller brackets and hardware.

HalalBuilt 02-16-2024 05:52 PM

Everything is back from the machine shop. Got the crank polished, mains line honed, block decked (only needed a skim for a clean surface), and a 0.010" over bore. All the bearing clearneces were checked but I'll be checking them myself as well.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d19f7b07aa.jpg

Time to get started I guess.

Still undecided on valves and springs. Leaning towards SuperTech valves and light double springs. Overkill? Warranted? I'm not sure.

Scope creep kicked my ass.
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HalalBuilt 02-27-2024 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by HalalBuilt (Post 1646467)
Still undecided on valves and springs. Leaning towards SuperTech valves and light double springs. Overkill? Warranted? I'm not sure.

Scope creep kicked my ass.
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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2669dcd953.jpg

Welp. That's that. Went with the Supetech light doubles springs and valves from Super Miata.

In the meantime I "ported" the head. Mostly just removed the casting flash, smoothed out some inconsistencies and removed carbon deposits.

Before shots:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5a1467e1f1.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f09482ac27.jpg
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https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e310700aa4.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5751acffeb.jpg

After shots:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c428170f98.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...de45cca20f.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...93cbb89b3c.jpg
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https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d19c8d6b87.jpg

It doesn't look perfectly smooth but it's way better to the touch. Good enough I think.

Have to start assembling the head now. No more excuses that I can use unfortunately.

​​​​​​Question. In order to clean the head do I have to remove these two plugs (one of them in the center of the photo below)? I tried and they did not budge...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ea060f7b64.jpg

HalalBuilt 03-01-2024 08:34 PM

Wasn't totally satisfied with the port job, especially on the intake side right past the valves. So I took some time to get rid of the casting flash.

Before:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e00c29eee5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ee8efd4de6.jpg
After:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59ac2a57e1.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1be0a21232.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...acbea06992.jpg

Much happier with how those look and feel now.

Went on to try lapping in the new valves but the lapping tool I got from AutoZone is absolutely terrible. Wouldn't stick for shit. Even tried heating it up and hot gluing it to the valves. Ordered a new set. If those don't work I'll probably try another method.
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a22237733f.jpg

Once the valves are lapped I'll clean and assemble the head.

Can anyone tell me about these two plugs? Worth removing to clean or will a through cleaning of the coolant galley be fine? Is it even coolant or is it oil? I can't seem to find any info on it. Checked forums and the service manual.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...153cf10146.jpg

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HalalBuilt 04-25-2024 10:24 AM

Slow progress is still progress, right?

Lapped the valves. The new tool I ordered also sucked. I ended up just using some double sided tape to get the valves to stick to the tool. Got the job done.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f9b27d2644.jpg

Before and after lapping

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2c5f1ef93f.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...da97737236.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ff0876d882.jpg

​​​​​​Cleaned, primed, and painted the block. I think black would have looked better but I wanted a color that wouldn't make it hard to identify leaks. I'm not totally in love with the color but it serves it's purpose.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6500bcfbf0.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2b56bed632.jpg
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...21fc652150.jpg

Assembled the head. This was by far the worst part of this whole process so far. Those damn valve retainers drove me insane.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1051cc0dac.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8d5ad17ec9.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2833e3b39f.jpg

I had the machine shop check clearances on the pistons and identify which piston goes in each cylinder but I just double checked to confirm. Everything looks good. Then set my ring gaps. I had trouble finding some solid information on suggested ring gaps for forced induction OEM oversized rings. Hopefully this is good.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e7328361eb.jpg

Removed all the expansion plugs and brass oil plugs then cleaned the block as thorough as possible and installed the pistons. New plugs on the way.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...39ed4623d3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bb9e5d5e5e.jpg

Test fit the head to the block. I might take it off and spray the head gasket with Permatex 80065 High Tack Spray-A-Gasket Sealant. Not sure yet.
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...05ea93a39a.jpg
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https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b99ed5c0b4.jpg

Thats about where the build stands. I have a few odds and ends coming in the mail. I have the Boundary oil pump and a Gates timing kit ready to go once I receive all the plugs. I cleaned the valve cover and oil pan. The aim is to drop the motor in next weekend.

HalalBuilt 05-08-2024 04:04 PM

Some more progress. Was able to drop the engine this past weekend, thankfully.

New brass plugs for the head

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f283ffeb33.jpg

Boundary Racing oil pump

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f26a719b7f.jpg

Gates water pump

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d27e6fdcd0.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ceec9baca1.jpg

Valve cover prepped for paint

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5db613933a.jpg

Copper scrubbies to trap oil. Also enlarged the vent hole that is on the intake side.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...11b99b9dd3.jpg

Checking timing. Notice: I forgot the rubber gasket strip that goes between the water pump and back timing cover... Which means I had to take the timing belt and cam gears off... This will be relevant below when I describe first start up.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...23195418d5.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...110aa27387.jpg

Q-Maxx re-route installed. And yes, I did forget to install the oil and water plug before starting to mate the transmission. I remembered about half way.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9df7352223.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...55bab5eaf9.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...653db3bd4a.jpg

I ended up getting a digital oil pressure/temp gauge at the last minute. I used a sandwich plate over the oil warmer. I was worried about oil pressure at start up.

First start went great with only some minor hiccups. I was nervous because it wasn't starting up after a few tries. It had spark and fuel, but compression seemed low. I did a compression test and it only got up to 25PSI. Even though I double checked the timing 2 or 3 times before I put the timing cover plates on, it ended up being wrong. Remember when I forgot to install the water pump-to-rear timing plate gasket above? I must have mixed up the E and I marks on the cams or something while reassembling. Or maybe the belt skipped while torquing the crank bolt. But nonetheless, I embarrassingly re set timing and it started up immediately.

I got a new eBay aluminum radiator delivered today that needs to be installed. I installed a new slave cylinder, so that needs to be bled. Transmission needs fluid and then I think this girl is ready for a test drive. :likecat:


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curly 05-08-2024 09:18 PM

oh man, I always rip that gasket off and throw it away, but kudos on the dedication.

Out of curiosity, was the gates water pump a cast or stamped impeller? Not that it matters, just curious if you found a cast source.

HalalBuilt 05-08-2024 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1650222)
oh man, I always rip that gasket off and throw it away, but kudos on the dedication.

Out of curiosity, was the gates water pump a cast or stamped impeller? Not that it matters, just curious if you found a cast source.

Haha I was worried it was there to stop the back plate from vibrating or something. :dunno:

I'm pretty sure it's stamped. This doesn't look cast, it's the only other picture I have.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...970be50d7d.jpg

Big thanks for all the advice, Curly. I referenced your comments many many times.

HalalBuilt 05-14-2024 11:44 AM

So. I ended up ordering the wrong radiator... I somehow ordered one for an NA instead of an NB. Whoops. BNIB NA radiator available for sale in Central/South NJ... :facepalm:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...19131a572d.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e302583c58.jpg

Original OEM radiator installed for now.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6cd49912ab.jpg

Got the transmission filled with fluid.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bbd8a34f8e.jpg

Fished the brass shifter bushing out of the turret. I'm glad I realized it wasn't where it was supposed to be.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d2f636c24a.jpg

On the road for the first time in months.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...be5161ab91.jpg

Ready for autocross. No better way to break in/test a freshly built engine, right? :likecat:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...34f15e0a92.jpg



The car held up great. At one point in the staging lanes, the car died and wouldn't stay running. I realized one of the lines came off of the idle air control valve. Easy fix. There is a water leak coming from the rear. I'm pretty sure it's coming from the QMax reroute housing. I'm going to double check all the plugs and bolts are tight. I'm hoping I don't have to remove it for whatever reason.

Overall, really happy with the build. Not so happy with the car's setup. Very unhappy with my performance. I had a lot of trouble with traction and finding the correct line through the course. I was definitely a bit preoccupied and nervous about monitoring oil pressure, coolant temps, and staying off the rev-limiter. That aside though, the car was really tail happy. Probably because I have mismatched tires front vs rear. Considering what to wrap a set of 15x9 Advanti Storm S1s I have in the garage. Also, rear sway bar has been disconnected since before the Xidas were installed. I'll order new end links and get that reconnected.

Driving pointers and car setup tips appreciated.

sixshooter 05-14-2024 09:09 PM

Reconnect the rear bar.


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