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I vote 2 or 6.
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Awesome flood of updates, just spend a good 15 minutes catching up. So to clarify, you now have a fresh bottom end and head on this thing?
I love the FD wheels personally. How do 17s look on mx6's? Have any pics? |
Well... the car isn't back together right now. Still need to rip the old ill-fated motor out, and assemble the new head.
But otherwise, yeah. Fresh not-"built"-but-optimized bottom end. The head is... well, you'll have to wait for updates. You'll like it. 17s look fine on mx6s. The first pictures in this thread were 17s actually. But with shitty 205/40-17 tires. |
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Wait.. is that 1 intake valve per cyl? Headwork looks awesome, i'm kinda sad this isn't going into a miata.
jk :P |
2 intake valves per cylinder. 1 exhaust valve.
The headwork IS awesome. I'm expecting positively enormous gains, considering just how awful this thing was before it was touched. THIS one isn't going in a miata. ;) |
Just curious, that little area between your exhaust valve and spark plug hole looks a little suspect.
In the b2600i world (scaled version of the 2.2 12 valve head) that head would be drinking coolant... But we have heard that not all of the mazda castings were created equally and sometimes that crack doesn't make it to the water jacket. Then again it could just be that the 2.6 head stretched the design too far. |
Yep, two chambers have cracks between the spark plug boss and exhaust valve. Shitty casting. The two that have the crack have less distance between the two.
The head was taken to two shops and they verified that it's not going any further than surface. No sealing issues, and definitely not deep enough to get into any fluids. With the work done, heat buildup in that area will also be drastically reduced, so i'm not worried about it. Turns out this head was also a non turbo head, which may have something to do with it. But... a quick poll of the forums showed that half the guys that have looked have the same cracks. Next head for the miata will not have those cracks. |
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i laughed hard with this build.
dude, how many times have you pulled that motor! make up your mind! lol subbing for awesomeness |
Those gauges look pretty awesome! Are you going to run the whole lot?
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Originally Posted by Alejo_NIN
(Post 1139827)
i laughed hard with this build.
dude, how many times have you pulled that motor! make up your mind! lol subbing for awesomeness Only pulled twice now on the red car, but between the red car, the black car, and the others i've crushed, i have this shit down to a science. :rofl:
Originally Posted by jimmyneutron
(Post 1140995)
Those gauges look pretty awesome! Are you going to run the whole lot?
I have many things to update. Will try to get to it later today. You'll laugh, cry, vomit. Swank Force One will become a part of you. |
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1141441)
I have many things to update. Will try to get to it later today. You'll laugh, cry, vomit. Swank Force One will become a part of you.
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Backdating again:
5/27/14 This is really testing my patience. Took a look at the new worked head that was to replace the previous worked head that got dropped. This is what i saw. FML. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215237 |
5/28/14
Tack welded that piece back on, cutting the top edge flat because it warped a little, ground down the spots so they won't hit the lobe anymore, gonna turn it for a bit with some valve lapping compound in there. Then i'll run the bitch. #AINTCARE #YOLO #F2TLIFE |
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6/2/14
Decided it was time to get dumb. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Yummy. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Well that escalated quickly. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Finally some pics of the old block for you. Dat carbon, tho. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Every line you see is a gouge deep enough to stop a thumbnail. Ran like a top. #F2Tlife https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 What's this? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Oh my. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 *PUKE* https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Threw this gross shit out, put the empty box back together. Way cheaper than ordering the actual delete pipe from Russia, and end result went from 9lbs to about 6oz. And more airflow! And no more gross shit! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Worn hinge repair. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Floor is wrinkled, popped a body plug out. I'll smack it with a hammer a few times then glue it back on after i remove all the deadening. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Other side. Pretty much all the wiring you see in here is being removed. Because fuck complicated shit. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Found a hole. Didn't pleasure myself with it. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 Where did all this shit come from? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 MANUAL ALL THE THINGS!!!!!! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215358 TL;DR: Manual e'er'thang, already removed about 60lbs out of the car, have at least another 60 to go. Will be under 2500lbs with a full interior. |
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6/9/14
Guess what we're doing today, kids? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 This is a chassis harness. It is the enemy. It must be defeated. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 *barf* https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 Looks way better like this. I should convert to carbs. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 My fingers love this. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 *Pile of shit intensifies* https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 This looks fun to wrap back together in the appropriate spots. We can wing it. We have the booze necessary. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 *Pile of shit intensifies further* https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215418 Ok, so what have i done here? I've removed about 10lbs of wire, plastic brackets, and over 500 feet of electrical tape that are not necessary to be present in order to drive the car. Another 20-30 wires are coming out of the chassis harness once i gut the corresponding circuits in the dash harness. Quite literally... i will have removed 80% of the body harnesses. Me gusta. |
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Hotside now coated inside and out rated to 2500F.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215457 Tried to take this apart because i thought it was serviceable. It is NOT, i repeat, NOT SERVICEABLE. Oops. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215457 Apparently this was an auto-door-lock timer thing for once the car started moving. So many weird things on an 80s car. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215457 Saturday's bounty. The white box in the middle is the CPU i was talking about that controlled the Opera Lights (Interior lights dimmed to off like a movie theater instead of just shutting off all at once) and the alarm/keyless entry. The silver box it's sitting on was some crazy shit that controlled all the speed sensitive things. (Suspension, steering.) The way it worked was mind-boggling. The car has a mechanical speedo cable and no ABS. Ready? Get THIS shit. There's a friggin' Hall Sensor built into the gauge cluster that measures the turning speed of the speedo cable at the cluster. Then sends electric signal to silver box. Silver box translates and sends commands to other two black boxes not shown. Active steering and active suspension. AND IT WORKED. DA FUQ. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215457 Blurry pic of each of the 4 harnesses in the car after stripping. 1) dash harness 2) engine side body harness 3) Engine harness (Hilariously, the smallest of the 4) 4) Main body harness https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215457 |
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Lubes for my pleasure.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215478 New brake rotors for the front... those are 6x6" square tiles. 12.6" rotors. Carbotech XP8 pads. #SWAG https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215478 Got sick of wrestling with rubber/generally shitty lines every time i dick with the drain on this. Fixed it. Other fittings for 2x -10AN valve cover vents going on. Also pictured: DW fuel pump wiring kit. (Thanks, FAP9!) Ordered bulkhead plug as well, will run 12awg all the way to pump directly, even in tank. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215478 Will be running -10AN to each side of this can. Currently have a single setup. Moving to a dual was cheaper than getting a tri-way -10AN fitting. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403215478 |
The MX6 really have a hall sensor on the speedo? The miata has a reed switch.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1141639)
The MX6 really have a hall sensor on the speedo? The miata has a reed switch.
Looks like the same sensor they used on the GC 626/323GTX/GD 626 with digital dash. Might be a reed switch, i don't know. It measures shit. It's build a better mousetrap. It's Mazda. Just seems like a weird thing to integrate instead of just offering the electronically controlled shit ONLY in a package with ABS. Which... is another thing this particular car doesn't have that it seems like it should. REALLY bizarre build out on this thing. Factory: Electronically controlled speed sensitive power steering Electronically controlled speed sensitive suspension CD player Subwoofer Power windows, locks, belts, and sunroof Theft Deterrent System w/ keyless entry Opera Lights Lacking: Cupholders (Weren't an option) ABS 4WS I've also found evidence that heated seats were an option on these cars in other markets. |
gotta say, thread progress is impressive.
I laughed I cried I fapped |
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Got more things in.
-10AN aluminum weld bungs, one -10AN steel weld bung, and water lines. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 STAND BACK I'M DOING SCIENCE. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 Magic! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 So fun! Smash the fuck out of your floor with a hammer! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 WARNING: BAD SHIT AHEAD Took the bumper off to see why it was sagging. Was not prepared for this. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 Passenger behind rear wheelwell. I threw some foam back there a year or two ago just to plug a small hole i knew was back there. Wasn't quite prepared for it to be like this. It's pretty much completely hosed. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...621_174151.jpg Driver's side. The two small rust spots were bumper mounts. Were. The vent is pretty messed up, and is causing some water to get in the trunk as well. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403455611 Basically, this car is hosed and wasn't repaired properly the last time it was totaled. I'll fix it, but it's not going to be able to happen until winter. Will be making some fairly large changes when i do so, though. Flat bottom and aero time. |
rust
it's the worst |
Pretty much. I don't think this has gotten any worse in the time i've had it, though. The good news is that it has no rust in all the normal terminal places these cars tend to get.
Beyond what you see in the pictures, the only other rust repair necessary on the entire car is 4 fairly straightforward holes in the floor, none of which are real large, all of which are on the seams, furthering my theory that these cars tear themselves apart when stressed with lots of power and g-forces. I'll be seam-welding the entire car this winter as well, to combat further deterioration. To be clear, none of the damage you see would have happened if the car had been repaired properly when it gained its salvage title. |
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I bought a new LX rack awhile back in preparation for this, hoping they mounted up the same, despite Mazda having different part numbers for LX and GT rack bushings and straps.
Looks the same at first glance, so here we go! Gutted/depowered the new rack yesterday. Fairly straightforward job. Step 1: Remove inner tie rods Step 2: Disassemble rack Step 3: Curse all the disgusting grease and fluids that get all over you, and clean the innards of the rack up as much as possible Step 4: Remove O-ring and seal on rack Reassembly is reverse of disassembly. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404255861 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404255861 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404255861 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404255861 |
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Fixed the rear bumper sag yesterday. No pictures. Ended up replacing all the plastic push pin bullshit with nuts and bolts and adjusted it as far up as it would go. Looks good, man.
Removed old steering rack. New steering rack is about half the weight of the old one. Another 10-15lbs shaved off the car awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yiss. Also looks like the Energy Suspension Poly rack bushings for the ZX2 Escort i ordered are going to work pretty well. AND THEN. TODAY. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404425331 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404425331 |
Originally Posted by concealer404
Heavy Breathing
Heavy Breathing Heavy Breathing Literally. :giggle: |
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Oh we bolted together now.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 Got some stuff from China. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 New rack is back in. Addco is a piece of shit company and didn't get my swaybar done in time. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 Did a ricer mod and polished my booster because rice. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 Installed this thing because the car doesn't truly have a subframe or anything really tying those crossmembers together besides radiator support. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 -10AN drain because fuck barbed fittings. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 Brake upgrade in progress. Because 2300lbs needs 11.8" rotors. Will move to 12.6" later. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 And for your viewing pleasure... here's a more-stock-than-you'd-think FE 2.0 8V "Magnum" setup that's shooting for the 9s currently. Already done 10.1 @ 130mph+. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406678392 |
I don't know where you are located, but Goddammit, I'd like to sit down for a beer and shoot the Shit.
Well.Fucking.Done |
I'm in Indy. Come on down. :giggle:
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Good build thread. Would read again. Now suppressing the urge to buy an MX-6 and subsequently turbo the fuk out of it.
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Don't suppress urges. Give in. Come to the dark side, we make tons of power on band-aids.
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moar progress pics
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That's gonna be it for a couple weeks. :( Moving to a new place. :)
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1154478)
That's gonna be it for a couple weeks. :( Moving to a new place. :)
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We're just renting, and we have a good 3 week overlap between places, so we'll be fine. Everything is getting hooked up on Monday, so i'll hit it hard next week and knock it out quick.
Then gotta put together a workplace in the garage there. Just gonna do light work and kick my electrical game up. :) |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1154534)
We're just renting, and we have a good 3 week overlap between places, so we'll be fine. Everything is getting hooked up on Monday, so i'll hit it hard next week and knock it out quick.
Then gotta put together a workplace in the garage there. Just gonna do light work and kick my electrical game up. :) |
Exactly, and i've got a couple people that need a Miata jumper harness to move their obscenely huge Megasquirts away from their pedal assemblies, and an SW20 MR2 Caldina 3sgte conversion harness to do.
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Finished moving. Getting back into this bastard. Needs to be in Flurduh end of October. We can do this. We have the technology.
I guess step one is sorting out this fucking mess and getting it all taped up and proper. Will work on this on Wednesday. Spent Saturday just cleaning up and putting together a game plan/prioritizing. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1411395766 For comedic relief, found the last time slip in existence for this car. This is with blown headgasket, blown turbo, blown clutch, huge exhaust leaks, all on a 222k mile original motor. Car #22. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1411395766 |
Wow man, nice progress. +propz for this ghetto fabulous rice rocket.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1169214)
Finished moving. Getting back into this bastard. Needs to be in Flurduh end of October. We can do this. We have the technology.
I guess step one is sorting out this fucking mess and getting it all taped up and proper. Will work on this on Wednesday. Spent Saturday just cleaning up and putting together a game plan/prioritizing. [IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=124102&dateline=141139 5766[IMG] For comedic relief, found the last time slip in existence for this car. This is with blown headgasket, blown turbo, blown clutch, huge exhaust leaks, all on a 222k mile original motor. Car #22. [IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=124103&dateline=141139 5766[IMG] I hate the gay excuses. You make it sound like the car would run 8's at 180mph if it wasn't broken in half, engine in pieces, turbo vaporized, car getting pushed by blind retarded handicapped midgets on tranquilizers uphill with a 100mph headwind |
Nice build.
Where did you source the harness connectors? I'm trying to find some reasonably priced connectors. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1169306)
I propped the post, cause 110 is a solid trap, and cuz ilu, but:
I hate the gay excuses. You make it sound like the car would run 8's at 180mph if it wasn't broken in half, engine in pieces, turbo vaporized, car getting pushed by blind retarded handicapped midgets on tranquilizers uphill with a 100mph headwind Well to be fair... i have a 13.2 @ 118 trap from years ago somewhere still. This was a "lol look at this awful slip" type deal. 110mph track sucks dick. I'll be sadpanda if this thing doesn't end up around 125-130mph, just as reference. It wasn't a "feel sorry for me" or "look at all the excuses i have" post. I have no idea what ET it'll hit, though. I'll be happy with anything in the 12s. I care about power, not how well it hooks from a dig. MPH shows power. :) Just at "look how slow this piece of shit was" post. :giggle::makeout: |
its slow if you go on yt and watch TX2K videos.
and then you go into the real world and its fast again |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1169318)
its slow if you go on yt and watch TX2K videos.
and then you go into the real world and its fast again I get jaded real quick even in the real world. 110mph trap feels fast. Once. Then the next time it better be 111 or 112mph minimum, or it feels slow.:bowrofl: That 110mph was done on a laggy 16psi. It felt pretty tough around 24psi the week before. (Also see: Why my clutch was blown. :fael: ) |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1169320)
I get jaded real quick even in the real world. 110mph trap feels fast. Once.
Then the next time it better be 111 or 112mph minimum, or it feels slow.:bowrofl: That 110mph was done on a laggy 16psi. It felt pretty tough around 24psi the week before. (Also see: Why my clutch was blown. :fael: ) |
Originally Posted by Fireindc
(Post 1169332)
Isn't that always how it is? You will pretty much get used to the car, no matter what the power level. Doesn't mean that it is not "fast" by most normal people's standards though.
It is... and i get bored especially quickly. :party: |
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Made a Jeep friend.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 Hung out with wife's annoying cat. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 Put AN shit in my block because rubber/silicone hoses that close to exhaust manifold is no bueno. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 Started to plug shit back in. Success! Only 3 plugs that i have no fucking clue what the fuck! (Also see: ultra-rare baller factory a/c firewall delete plugs) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 Dohohohoho. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 YES. VC PENIS. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 I can has top side alternator changes? ZOMGYUSSPLZ. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 Good feelings intensify. Hard day of work tomorrow. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412357711 |
...........that butter face. :robert:
I like your AN fittings :hsugh: vury naice I liek. |
Only the finest used circle track fittings purchased by the fist full for this fine automobile.
And some hilariously cheap Ebay fittings again for vent/catch can things. |
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Valve cover grew another phallus.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412607208 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412607208 More used AN shit from the circle track place. I like $5 Earl's filters. Coupled directly to fuel rail to eliminate a failure point or two, and because it looks clean. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412607208 Very please, so excite. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412607208 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412607208 Just need to run another vacuum line or two, mount up intercooler/piping, attach battery, and see if she cranks on Wednesday. If it cranks and pump primes, will move forward with re-wiring pump, putting fresh gas in, and trying to fire it on Thursday. If fire on Thursday, will have wiring cleaned up on Saturday and interior will start going back in. Dash last, we have some work to do to mold in some $3 chinese gauge pods awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwyiss. |
Just bought a whole case of meth.
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so we should expect the build to be done in the next 48 hours?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1174224)
so we should expect the build to be done in the next 48 hours?
Well, there's really only about 48 hours of work left at this point, i think. This car is about to become a meth whore, though. :brain: Spraying meth seems a whole lot easier than actually controlling timing. |
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Damn it, so hot!
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Looked for something funny in the photo to make fun of you for. Could only find this:
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Jesus! Good lookin...
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Uh wow.
a bit herrafrush doe... |
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