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symphonicreverb 10-20-2006 09:18 AM

1991 Red Turbo Miata 56k miles - $7,000
 
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edit: car is located in Indianapolis, Indiana

$4k OBO AS IS

I keep going on and off thinking about selling this or not. I've been needing to just buy a Honda Civic so I can't do any more modifications! My plan is to sell this, use the money to pay off my debts, buy a cheap civic, and in the future start over with another Miata when I have money again! :-)


PROBLEMS SPOTS:
1-Small vacumm leak, believed to be causing a random slightly high idle
2-Scratch on passanger side door, not huge at all, but I couldn't buff it out
3-few scuffs on top of the hood from not soft cloth
4-2nd gear blew up


MODS:

Performance:
-55,000 miles on car
-40,000 miles on JDM Engine, all work done by AIM Tuning
-5,000 miles on new intake manifold
-ACT Extreme Clutch with organic pressure plate (2,000 miles)
-IHI Turbo charger (Corky Bell kit) (10,000 miles)
-Bell Engineering intercooler
-cartech BOV (blow off valve) (I have a DSM 1G BOV I'll throw in for free)
-cartech APFR
-boost gauge installed in vent (with light kill switch)
-Koni Yellow Adjustible sport shocks
-1.8l Miata injectors (210cc I think?)
-Replaced VLSD (will be added before sale)

Cosmetic:
-unique style 7 chrome wheels with tires
-custom mounted leather racing seats (needs some racing harnesses!)
-Racing Beat Style II chrome style bar
-Chrome Vent Rings
-Chrome gas lid
-Altezza taillights
-Carbon Fiber interior trim kit
-Vodoo shift knob (i think it is)

$4k as is

invert 10-20-2006 11:08 AM

Those seats look awesome ! Nice car !

turbored 10-20-2006 01:44 PM

where is the car located?

symphonicreverb 10-20-2006 01:58 PM

Indianapolis Indiana, sorry forgot to right that. Post updated. I am willing to ship with those car shipper things, provided buyer pays shipping cost.

BrokeEnthusiast 10-20-2006 04:03 PM

any engine pics and pics from the back?

symphonicreverb 10-20-2006 04:09 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Sure thing.

The only ones from the back are when it was jacked up covered in dust during the ACT clutch install. :-) Here's a few of the engine. I'll get better engine pics and back pics and all that this weekend hopefully.

symphonicreverb 10-23-2006 11:24 AM

bump for price drop $7,200 OBO

symphonicreverb 10-26-2006 09:47 AM

bump for asking $7,000

I have the Audi picked out I'm buy. I'm just trying to get a sale. I can't believe I'm doing this for $7k. Whoever buys this car better take good care, I'll miss her a lot. :-(

symphonicreverb 10-27-2006 10:50 AM

Winter is the worst time EVER to sell Miata's. :-) I recommend never doing that.

I don't know how low I will go, but I will considering ANY offer. (if it's under $10, I won't.) :-)

Loki047 10-27-2006 11:20 AM

2gs

kyle242gt 10-27-2006 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 53060)
Winter is the worst time EVER to sell Miata's. :-) I recommend never doing that.

Must be the best time to buy one, though, right?:bigtu:

symphonicreverb 10-27-2006 02:28 PM

YUP. :-( lol Ok, Loki 2G's. haha

If anyone does want this, provided there can be a BIG chunk of the money down, if you are 1 or 2 g's short, I can work out a payment plan on the rest.

Just make offers, it's time to rip me off!

Loki047 10-27-2006 05:52 PM

2gs but im 2gs short :)

Good luck! Seems like a sweet car.

symphonicreverb 10-27-2006 05:54 PM

I'm still deciding between an Audi A4 and this '03 Evolution I've had my eyes on. I need something nice, moderately fast for now (mostly to build up my credit) Hopefully in the future comes another Miata. This time, I'll start with a built engine. Then find a car to put it in. :-)

singleslammer 10-28-2006 12:42 PM

This car is great. I would send you a PM but it wont let since I havent made 10 posts. I was wondering if I could get some more pictures to jrdnwheeler@yahoo.com

expensivehobby22 10-31-2006 10:03 AM

Hey, I have an 03 Evo for sale if you are interested. It's completely stock. PM me if you are interested.

Funny that I'm considering the same replacement car (A4).

Nice car btw, and good luck with the sale.

BDubya 11-01-2006 03:27 PM

Boy, everything's in the timing . . . I'm only 2 hours away and I just sold my TT quattro. I would have loved to have talked about a partial trade. Drats!

Go for the A4 . . . awesome car! The 2.0 is a good motor, and chipped will make you smile . . . thought not like a Miata!

LunaticDriver 11-01-2006 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 53169)
I'm still deciding between an Audi A4 and this '03 Evolution I've had my eyes on. I need something nice, moderately fast for now (mostly to build up my credit) Hopefully in the future comes another Miata. This time, I'll start with a built engine. Then find a car to put it in. :-)

2001 s4 tt ftw same price as an evo and WAY better than the A4

symphonicreverb 11-14-2006 02:23 PM

bump for still for sale. Had a lot of interest, but no takers so far. Asking $6800 OBO at this point.
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symphonicreverb 11-15-2006 02:10 AM

Just got some pics up of every ding dent scratch. Most are realllllly close, so they appear alot larger than they are. I had three non-biast people search for anything wrong.

www.photo1k.com/miata

symphonicreverb 11-17-2006 10:14 AM

Selling a boosted Miata sucks. :-)

it's $6800 now. At this point, I'm taking the best offer I get in the next week or so... ugh

symphonicreverb 11-30-2006 05:19 PM

Seems I still have no serious buyers! blah I'm shaving $600 more off the price and hoping for the best. Gotta get in something bigger before I convince myself to keep it...

$6,200

It cost me $5,200 STOCK before all the mods and a new engine.

BrokeEnthusiast 11-30-2006 07:24 PM

your not the only one haveing problems selling

symphonicreverb 12-02-2006 06:01 PM

MAN.

I'm losing 2nd gear. I just rebuilt the differential too.

Here's the thing, I'm tired of working on cars for now, I'm just need to get into some cheap old Honda and not modify it. :-)

SO, $5,500 for it.

AND, I will put in a new transmission with part of that money before it's shipped off. If anyone has been thinking about buying a Miata, this is just a stupid price.

supra441979 12-03-2006 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 53132)
YUP. :-( lol Ok, Loki 2G's. haha

If anyone does want this, provided there can be a BIG chunk of the money down, if you are 1 or 2 g's short, I can work out a payment plan on the rest.

Just make offers, it's time to rip me off!

Speaking of ripping you off. I'll give you $4000 for it.:bowdown: . Do you happen to have a picture of the engine bay from the top?

symphonicreverb 12-04-2006 09:09 AM

Yes, but I wouldn't consider $4,000 ;-)

http://www.photo1k.com/miata/content..._11_12_028.jpg

symphonicreverb 12-06-2006 12:47 PM

Just as a last throw down before I garage is. I'll give it up for $4,500 OBO at this point as is. Drives fine in all the other gears. If not, car cover is going on, and I'll be back in the spring! :-)

symphonicreverb 12-12-2006 11:07 AM

bumps $4k takes it as is

symphonicreverb 12-12-2006 01:21 PM

sale pending folks

Kelly 12-15-2006 03:25 PM

I swept up a bit in here. No offense to the other mods or Philip for deleting your posts.:)


Carry on with your sale.:bigtu:

supra441979 12-18-2006 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 51084)
edit: car is located in Indianapolis, Indiana

$4k OBO AS IS

I keep going on and off thinking about selling this or not. I've been needing to just buy a Honda Civic so I can't do any more modifications! My plan is to sell this, use the money to pay off my debts, buy a cheap civic, and in the future start over with another Miata when I have money again! :-)


PROBLEMS SPOTS:
1-Small vacumm leak, believed to be causing a random slightly high idle
2-Scratch on passanger side door, not huge at all, but I couldn't buff it out
3-few scuffs on top of the hood from not soft cloth
4-2nd gear blew up


MODS:

Performance:
-55,000 miles on car
-40,000 miles on JDM Engine, all work done by AIM Tuning
-5,000 miles on new intake manifold
-ACT Extreme Clutch with organic pressure plate (2,000 miles)
-IHI Turbo charger (Corky Bell kit) (10,000 miles)
-Bell Engineering intercooler
-cartech BOV (blow off valve) (I have a DSM 1G BOV I'll throw in for free)
-cartech APFR
-boost gauge installed in vent (with light kill switch)
-Koni Yellow Adjustible sport shocks
-1.8l Miata injectors (210cc I think?)
-Replaced VLSD (will be added before sale)

Cosmetic:
-unique style 7 chrome wheels with tires
-custom mounted leather racing seats (needs some racing harnesses!)
-Racing Beat Style II chrome style bar
-Chrome Vent Rings
-Chrome gas lid
-Altezza taillights
-Carbon Fiber interior trim kit
-Vodoo shift knob (i think it is)

$4k as is

What happend to the steering wheel column cover?:sadwavey: Also 61K miles?:eek4: I'll check out the car tomorrow man. I just got down here man :eek5: I'll . Also what happen to my free dsm bov?

ckandes1 02-06-2007 11:00 PM

is this car still for sale? Status on the tranny?

iluvtruenos 02-07-2007 01:04 PM

Ok.

I have four grand sitting in my bank account to be comissioned into use for another Miata. I also have a spare tranny in my garage.

So my question to you is thus: Can the car be driven back to Chicago without second gear? If not, is there any chance that I can bring a tranny down there and swap it out and drive the car back to......Chicago?

In any case, can you please send me some pics of the engine bay to iluvtruenos at hotmail dot com

ckandes1 02-07-2007 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by iluvtruenos (Post 80288)
Ok.

I have four grand sitting in my bank account to be comissioned into use for another Miata. I also have a spare tranny in my garage.

So my question to you is thus: Can the car be driven back to Chicago without second gear? If not, is there any chance that I can bring a tranny down there and swap it out and drive the car back to......Chicago?

In any case, can you please send me some pics of the engine bay to iluvtruenos at hotmail dot com


he said it runs fine without second gear in a previous post. You'll just rev it pretty good in first, then go straight to third. Besides, on a trip you'll be in 5th gear the majority of the time anyway. It'll work fine

supra441979 02-20-2007 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by iluvtruenos (Post 80288)
Ok.

I have four grand sitting in my bank account to be comissioned into use for another Miata. I also have a spare tranny in my garage.

So my question to you is thus: Can the car be driven back to Chicago without second gear? If not, is there any chance that I can bring a tranny down there and swap it out and drive the car back to......Chicago?

In any case, can you please send me some pics of the engine bay to iluvtruenos at hotmail dot com

I replaced the tranny, but I think the other tranny is good still. The damn pilot bearing just fell off when I talking the tranny out. :vash: I sell you the car for $5000 without the tranny or the motor :gay:

ckandes1 02-25-2007 01:19 PM

status?

supra441979 02-25-2007 07:20 PM

I have replaced the tranny and it shifts fine now and but the darn motor has a thrust bearing problem. The engine idle drops and a lot of times cut off when I press the clutch pedal.:vash: I have replaced the engine with a different one now, but head gasket is leaking on this new motor.:vash: Do you guys think this qualify for lemon law? I was told it's the transmission that the the only problem.

turbopezz 02-25-2007 07:38 PM

does the bill of sale say ''sold as is''.if so probally not.

supra441979 02-25-2007 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by turbopezz (Post 86500)
does the bill of sale say ''sold as is''.if so probally not.

What bill of sale :vash: ? I have a title and it does not say "sold as is":nono: :gay: But I have a chat log that states onlything wrong is the transmission. :eek4:

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 11:52 AM

I just randomly peek my head in to find this?

You did not purchase from a dealer, you purchase from an individual. There was absolutely no guarantee's set. I told you every problem I knew, we spent HOURS talking through everything.

AFTER I SOLD YOU THE CAR. You IM'd me EVERYDAY for a month. I've been helping you and answering questions for you.

Now you are considering trying to "lemon law" sue me? I'm pretty DAMNED sure there is no case. I could sell you a car that I poured sand into the motor, once the title is signed over, it's a completed sale. There were no guarentee's offered.

OBVIOUSLY, I was not trying to rip you off, as all the time we spent talking and I talked you through every detail of that car. You purchase a car that is blown up, you get what you paid for.

If you want to sue "lemon law", then come sue me. If not, then STFU and please stop talking me down in this forum.

I've done nothing but try and be of help to you. I even forgave the rest of the money of that check your mom wrote to me that bounced, and the hundreds in overdrafts that ended up causing me. I'm done with you.


BTW:

Lemon Law: A vehicle that continues to have a defect that substantially impairs its use, value, or safety. Generally, if the car has been repaired 4 or more times for the same Defect within the Warranty Period and the Defect has not been fixed, the car qualifies as a Lemon.

You purchased a used car, not a dealer car with a warrenty.


And further more, on lemon laws with private party...

"To recover your purchase price, you must prove that the car had a significant defect affecting safety or operation...and the seller knew about it but failed to disclose it. Not an easy proposition."

We both have documentation of every conversation in which I explained in closed detail everything I could about any funny noises, the high idle etc.

Ben 02-26-2007 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by supra441979 (Post 86492)
I have replaced the tranny and it shifts fine now and but the darn motor has a thrust bearing problem. The engine idle drops and a lot of times cut off when I press the clutch pedal.:vash: I have replaced the engine with a different one now, but head gasket is leaking on this new motor.:vash: Do you guys think this qualify for lemon law? I was told it's the transmission that the the only problem.

Are you stupid? You want the previous owner to warranty a used engine that you put into your car? Your anger should go towards the party that sold you a bad motor.

Besides, from reading your m.net posts, it would be simple to create a case that shows your own inability/ignorace/negligence.

Also, since you bounced your check, the purchase contract should be considered to be incomplete, as you failed to meet your end. Man up and cover the bounced check!


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 86710)
You did not purchase from a dealer, you purchase from an individual. There was absolutely no guarantee's set. I told you every problem I knew, we spent HOURS talking through everything.

Now you are considering trying to "lemon law" sue me? I'm pretty DAMNED sure there is no case. I could sell you a car that I poured sand into the motor, once the title is signed over, it's a completed sale. There were no guarentee's offered.

I've done nothing but try and be of help to you. I even forgave the rest of the money of that check your mom wrote to me that bounced, and the hundreds in overdrafts that ended up causing me. I'm done with you.

I edited the above passage for relativeness. You have to be pretty careful when you sell a vehicle. In many state, a vehicle is sold with an implied warranty and guarantee of serviceability and merchantability unless the contrary is specifically stated in writing. In the state of GA (where I live and have knowledge of this law) if you do not write something to the effect of "sold as is, where is without guarantee, no express or implied warranty offered", then the purchaser would have recourse in event of any defects.

The lemon law only offers recourse in new car purchases. Small claims court would be the more appropriate venue for this, though I doubt this case would do anything but waste the court's time.

The selling party could easily file against the purchaser/purchaser's mom to recover the amount of the bounced check, a bounced check fee, and may be entitled to double damages (up to the maximum limit of the law). Bouncing a check is a felony if the check is over a certain amount. The amount varies state to state.

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 86728)
I edited the above passage for relativeness. You have to be pretty careful when you sell a vehicle. In many state, a vehicle is sold with an implied warranty and gaurantee of servicability and merchanability unless the contrary is specifically stated in writing. In the state of GA (where I live and have knowledge of this law) if you do not write something to the effect of "sold as is, where is without gaurantee, no express or implied warranty offered", then the purchaser would have recourse in event of any defects.

Thanks for your help and advice Ben, I'll definitely bear all of this in mind next time I sell a vehicle. I gave up on trying to recover the rest of those funds, it's not worth it to me at this point. However, if this does go to court, I'll be shooting for them.

Ben 02-26-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 86731)
Thanks for your help and advice Ben, I'll definitely bear all of this in mind next time I sell a vehicle. I gave up on trying to recover the rest of those funds, it's not worth it to me at this point. However, if this does go to court, I'll be shooting for them.

I can't see the purchaser being granted a recovery in any event, considering he purchased an old vehicle with a non factory turbocharger, knowing that said vehicle had some mechanical defects. Furthermore, if he were entitled to a recovery due to some implied serviceability law, the terms of the sales contract were not fulfilled due to a problem on the purchaser's end. So he fucked himself.

Filing a suit (or counter suit) for the bounced check should be a slam dunk win. If the purchaser becomes a PITA, you could contact local law enforcement; he committed a crime, possibly a felony.

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 12:30 PM

I'll just leave that alone for now, the check plus the fee's I got were under $350 total. If I hear another word about this car though, I'm going for it. My roommate wants more beer $. :gay:

cueball1 02-26-2007 01:26 PM

I bought a used wad of gum. It doesn't seem to have any flavor left. Can I sue the seller?

supra441979 02-26-2007 01:44 PM

there is no need for all the foul stuff :gtfo: you guys are talking here and the check was cancel for $170. I didn't tell you do depend on a check and now have any other funds to cover your personal charges (3 charges and try to charge other BS fees )you have and blame the check bouching. The check was cancel due to the seller saying it has high idle and transmission is bad, but in fact the engine was bad too,trunk won't stay open, battery size of a tank renig to hell,all the trash that was in the car. I basically replaced the whole damn car for it's worth. I could have bought a better car for damn $6000k grand total it's costing me and I sure don't have to work on it. :vash:

supra441979 02-26-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 86772)
I bought a used wad of gum. It doesn't seem to have any flavor left. Can I sue the seller?

:nono:

supra441979 02-26-2007 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 86746)
I'll just leave that alone for now, the check plus the fee's I got were under $350 total. If I hear another word about this car though, I'm going for it. My roommate wants more beer $. :gay:

no need for this kind of stuff:nono:

supra441979 02-26-2007 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 86728)
Are you stupid? You want the previous owner to warranty a used engine that you put into your car? Your anger should go towards the party that sold you a bad motor.

Besides, from reading your m.net posts, it would be simple to create a case that shows your own inability/ignorace/negligence.

Also, since you bounced your check, the purchase contract should be considered to be incomplete, as you failed to meet your end. Man up and cover the bounced check!



I edited the above passage for relativeness. You have to be pretty careful when you sell a vehicle. In many state, a vehicle is sold with an implied warranty and guarantee of serviceability and merchantability unless the contrary is specifically stated in writing. In the state of GA (where I live and have knowledge of this law) if you do not write something to the effect of "sold as is, where is without guarantee, no express or implied warranty offered", then the purchaser would have recourse in event of any defects.

The lemon law only offers recourse in new car purchases. Small claims court would be the more appropriate venue for this, though I doubt this case would do anything but waste the court's time.

The selling party could easily file against the purchaser/purchaser's mom to recover the amount of the bounced check, a bounced check fee, and may be entitled to double damages (up to the maximum limit of the law). Bouncing a check is a felony if the check is over a certain amount. The amount varies state to state.

Are you stupid? You want the previous owner to warranty a used engine that you put into your car? Your anger should go towards the party that sold you a bad motor.
:nono:

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 02:23 PM

I'm sure the courts would gladly realize it's ok that you wrote a bad check because a used car that was blown up when you bought blew up again when you boosted it having no idea what you were doing.

I'm here, I'm waiting. Stop raising all this BS and come sue me, but there's no need to continue with this.

Ben 02-26-2007 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by supra441979 (Post 86790)
there is no need for all the foul stuff :gtfo: you guys are talking here and the check was cancel for $170.

Heh, probably a felony.



I didn't tell you do depend on a check and now have any other funds to cover your personal charges (3 charges and try to charge other BS fees )you have and blame the check bouching.
Actually, it IS your fault as his financial difficulties and penalties occurred as a direct result of your unlawful conduct.


The check was cancel due to the seller saying it has high idle and transmission is bad, but in fact the engine was bad too,trunk won't stay open, battery size of a tank renig to hell,all the trash that was in the car.
I can't comment on the engine situation. But it was your responsibility to check it out before the purchase. What was wrong with the original motor?

The other items are petty. You purchased a nearly 20 year old car, known to have mechanical defects.



I basically replaced the whole damn car for it's worth. I could have bought a better car for damn $6000k grand total it's costing me and I sure don't have to work on it. :vash:
For $6000k I'll sell you MY perfect running 91, and warranty it for the next 10 years.

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 86823)
Heh, probably a felony.



Actually, it IS your fault as his financial difficulties and penalties occurred as a direct result of your unlawful conduct.


I can't comment on the engine situation. But it was your responsibility to check it out before the purchase. What was wrong with the original motor?

The other items are petty. You purchased a nearly 20 year old car, known to have mechanical defects.



For $6000k I'll sell you MY perfect running 91, and warranty it for the next 10 years.

Ben, before sale, the motor was running fine, there were no problems. (EDIT: There was a vacuum leak, prob from intake manifold gasket. he was told about this and I have it in writing as well)
He contacted me asking about boosting, put everything back together. I recommended getting a bigger fuel pump, or wide band soon, as the climates were much different and it was cold as hell out here for my quick tune. Somehow, whatever he did, the motor blew up a couple weeks after he bought it. It was a new Motor, about 35k on it, pro installed by AIM tuning. There was nothing wrong.

supra441979 02-26-2007 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 86828)
Ben, before sale, the motor was running fine, there were no problems. (EDIT: There was a vacuum leak, prob from intake manifold gasket. he was told about this and I have it in writing as well)
He contacted me asking about boosting, put everything back together. I recommended getting a bigger fuel pump, or wide band soon, as the climates were much different and it was cold as hell out here for my quick tune. Somehow, whatever he did, the motor blew up a couple weeks after he bought it. It was a new Motor, about 35k on it, pro installed by AIM tuning. There was nothing wrong.

what every I did? WTF :gtfo: I didn't do nothing, but to drive it like 5 miles ath the most.

supra441979 02-26-2007 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 86823)
Heh, probably a felony.



Actually, it IS your fault as his financial difficulties and penalties occurred as a direct result of your unlawful conduct.


I can't comment on the engine situation. But it was your responsibility to check it out before the purchase. What was wrong with the original motor?

The other items are petty. You purchased a nearly 20 year old car, known to have mechanical defects.



For $6000k I'll sell you MY perfect running 91, and warranty it for the next 10 years.

you must be his buddy :nono: I don't appreciate smart ass comments and keep that stuff to yourself and thanks.

symphonicreverb 02-26-2007 04:02 PM

This is getting ridiculous. Admins, I apologize for all this crap, could you lock the thread if possible? Chris, contact me if you want to bitch, stop trying to hurt my reputation.

Ben 02-26-2007 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by supra441979 (Post 86864)
you must be his buddy :nono: I don't appreciate smart ass comments and keep that stuff to yourself and thanks.

I don't know you guys from a hole in the wall.

You posted something on a public forum. I think you're wrong. Deal with it.

Per what I believe to be the selling party's desires, I will respond no more.

supra441979 02-26-2007 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by symphonicreverb (Post 86870)
This is getting ridiculous. Admins, I apologize for all this crap, could you lock the thread if possible? Chris, contact me if you want to bitch, stop trying to hurt my reputation.

Brendon, I'm not bitching nor do I bitch. Admin yes close this thread and I apologize for all this. I have a comment on not knowing what I'm doing what I'm not, BTW the pilet bearing just fell off when i took the tranny out. :nono:

Loki047 02-26-2007 09:37 PM

Supra post a bad reivew in the section if you like, but yeah this is sold.


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