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zoomin 09-18-2009 01:39 PM

I love how fun this thread is getting!

miataspeed2005 09-18-2009 02:55 PM

Actually you might be able to fuel the motor enought for 400whp with 550cc and a fpr.
But I still don't think he has 400whp

webby459 09-18-2009 03:02 PM

On the RC site, given a bsfc of .6 and a max duty cycle of 80%, 400 horsepower at the crank would would want a fuel pressure of 87psi with ~550s. fwiw.

zoomin 09-18-2009 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 455825)
On the RC site, given a bsfc of .6 and a max duty cycle of 80%, 400 horsepower at the crank would would want a fuel pressure of 87psi with ~550s. fwiw.

Around here we talk whp!

webby459 09-18-2009 04:13 PM

That's just how the RC injector sizing calc has it. Point is, you would need a shit ton of pressure on 550s to make anywhere near that kind of juice.

gospeed81 09-18-2009 04:13 PM

So let me get this straight OP....

You built this "awesome" Miata you're trying to sell (or trade whatever)...only it's not as awesome as you hyped it up to be, and you're tired of catching crap from your musclecar buddies, so you decided to just join 'em since you couldn't beat 'em.

I say you're a quitter with a crappy build.

But I'd love to see video that proves me wrong.

Gotpsi? 09-18-2009 04:41 PM

Just get the mustang too. Keep them both.

oops2low 09-18-2009 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by JayL (Post 455745)
You have no clue what you are talking about.

i know the injectors have a big part in providing the fuel and 550s are more than enough. Also i meant to say that to make atleast 400 you would need the 255

however about the fuel pump im not trying to say you are wrong but,

"Cross referencing the flow data with the chart in Corky Bell's book "Maximum Boost", we can obtain the following data"
190L/Hr pump is good for ~280HP
255L/Hr pump is good for ~510HP
255HP pump is good for ~610HP

:confused::dunno:

ARTech 09-18-2009 05:51 PM

^more of a recommendation. 190 liters per hour is 3166cc/min, or 791cc x 4 injectors at 100% duty.

in for fail

JayL 09-18-2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by oops2low (Post 455859)
Also i meant to say that to make atleast 400 you would need the 255

however about the fuel pump im not trying to say you are wrong but.....

No book to quote here, but I'm pretty sure it isn't necessary. Ask yourself why I might say that.

jasono718 09-19-2009 01:47 AM

wow u guys have a lot of time on ur hands...
haha... its a walboro 190hp it can push enough fuel for 600hp.. ive seen it done before... its not running any of the stuff on the motor in those old ass pics..
ur correct that a stock 16g runs out of steam at 370hp.. however if you payed attention i said that this has about $1000 in work to the internals..
the old post where i was running 25psi with 225 hp was on a dyno run with a fpr and the link at the same time!! if u guys know anything about cars then you will know why i was making ONLY 225hp at that point..
also.. 550 can run upto 475hp..depending on ur settings.....
i do not wanna sell it for cash...
ps my block alone cost more than most of motors on this site complete.... fyi...
yes it does have a/c now.. thanks to some custom work by seth...
if you guys doubt this car... call seth and ask about jasons silver miata...and while your at it call s&a motors who built the engine with all the parts i sent them.... it was dynoed at drt 3 weeks ago at 397 hp.....
keep talking shit all day...

jasono718 09-19-2009 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 455845)
So let me get this straight OP....

You built this "awesome" Miata you're trying to sell (or trade whatever)...only it's not as awesome as you hyped it up to be, and you're tired of catching crap from your musclecar buddies, so you decided to just join 'em since you couldn't beat 'em.

I say you're a quitter with a crappy build.

But I'd love to see video that proves me wrong.

no musclecar buddies... just gonna build a 700hp mustang.. miss the sound of a v8 and dont wanna put one in this car..
cant keep the miata cause im building a 01 gs300 with a 2jz single turbo..$$$$ and parking is a bitch in nyc...

jasono718 09-19-2009 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by vw_nut (Post 455647)
Just trying to get some info regarding the car.

I realize its not a 400 whp car as stated in the title, however, it may still be a decent car at the right price.

this is waaaay more than a decent car... come by queens and sit in the passenger seat... then tell me how much$$ you wanna spend...

FRT_Fun 09-19-2009 01:56 AM

Let's just say your car is exactly what you say it is...

Is there even a person on this forum that owns a Mustang? It just confuses me why you thought a Miata Turbo forum would be a good place to sell. People on here either have a turbo miata, or are building their own turbo miata.

ArtieParty 09-19-2009 02:11 AM

Is the Tues/Wed meet at Dealer Alternative going to happen or no? We need to set a date.

buffon01 09-19-2009 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by ArtieParty (Post 456062)
Is the Tues/Wed meet at Dealer Alternative going to happen or no? We need to set a date.

Yeah, funny how he bashes all other comments and doesnt mention anything about meeting you guys up. I hope he doesnt back out I really want to see the outcome of this.

If I would want a V8 I would drop and ls. By far a better car than the bustang

disturbedfan121 09-19-2009 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by ArtieParty (Post 456062)
Is the Tues/Wed meet at Dealer Alternative going to happen or no? We need to set a date.

+1 artie

i've never heard of a shop fudging numbers to make a customer happy with what he built, have any of you guys?:giggle:

where in queens cause if you're by the southern shore there is no point in going to dealer alt.

take the belt to the verrazano to the staten island express way, to the 440 south, take the outerbridge crossing. get off for route 9 north and follow signs for the woodbridge mall. (i grew up in queens)

we all live in central NJ and dealer alt is like an hr and a half from us.

buffon01 09-19-2009 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by jasono718 (Post 456054)
its a walboro 190hp it can push enough fuel for 600hp.. ive seen it done before...

I recall seeing this too. It was on The fast and The Furious.

disturbedfan121 09-19-2009 10:35 AM

tune your nos right you'll run 9's

jasono718 09-21-2009 10:46 PM

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