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catlin987987 05-02-2011 08:08 PM

Canadian Election
 
Any Canadians following the election?

falcon 05-02-2011 11:06 PM

Yes. Kinda saw the conservative majority happening even though I voted ndp.

Preluding 05-03-2011 07:46 AM

Tories won because NDP ended up stealing all the liberals votes instead of the PC votes.

Kinda sad for the liberals really.

That being said, I usually vote liberal but voted NDP this time around.

inferno94 05-03-2011 08:54 AM

I just imagine the "muhaha MUHAHAHAHA YOU FOOLS WILL NOW KNOW A WORLD OF PAIN!" in the voice of the villain from Inspector Gadget coming from the conservative campaign central.

It's sad when you see the vote %'s how having the backing of 40% of people gives you absolute power while 20% support yields 17.5% of the number of seats as the party getting 40% support.

With results like these we'll never see proportional representation. In fact last I heard the conservatives were saying it's bad because it allows Muslims and terrorists to take over the government, fracture our society and make Christianity illegal. This was from door knocking conservative party members mind you, not party platform.

It's surprising to see the huge number of ndp seats but it's also kinda sad because the conservatives have no reason to listen to them now that they have gained some serious clout, uniting of the centre / left anyone? They tryed to do what they wanted secretly before will it just be more blatant this time? :hustler:

Braineack 05-03-2011 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by inferno94 (Post 722531)
In fact last I heard the conservatives were saying it's bad because it allows Muslims and terrorists to take over the government, fracture our society and make Christianity illegal. This was from door knocking conservative party members mind you, not party platform.


That's funny. This is what Rick told me is going to happen up there.

He said mt is like "no avatar no care" where canada is like "no brown skin no care"

inferno94 05-03-2011 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 722545)
That's funny. This is what Rick told me is going to happen up there.

He said mt is like "no avatar no care" where canada is like "no brown skin no care"

The truth is everyone above me in my one job is a woman, visible minority, mental / physical impairment or has higher ups as relatives, I'm in a predominately Caucasian area of the province too.

Braineack 05-03-2011 10:26 AM

Inequality is equality.

Preluding 05-03-2011 10:26 AM

fuck thats a piss off...

Caucasian is the new minority.

There are so many billion programs and incentives for everyone else it makes it impossible for me to get ahead.

Preluding 05-03-2011 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 722577)
Inequality is equality.

well said...

Quality Control Bot 05-03-2011 10:32 AM

white is the new black, brown, native Indian, gay and female without the free stuff.

I have the best Toronto Police rejection letter. It states i'm not bilingual, not a female and not a visible minority all within 1 sentence of the first paragraph.

inferno94 05-03-2011 10:45 AM

More incentive to get and stay married, my wife makes 2x what I do with the same education level. :loser: Good thing she's depandant on me for everything else!

Quality Control Bot 05-03-2011 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by inferno94 (Post 722586)
More incentive to get and stay married, my wife makes 2x what I do with the same education level. :loser: Good thing she's depandant on me for everything else!

What benefits is there to marriage. lol
I got married last year after 10 years of being with mine, and it just seems like things are awful now. lol

shuiend 05-03-2011 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Rick (Post 722581)
I have the best Toronto Police rejection letter. It states i'm not bilingual, not a female and not a visible minority all within 1 sentence of the first paragraph.

You sure that was not a rejection letter for going to jail?:giggle:

Quality Control Bot 05-03-2011 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 722599)
You sure that was not a rejection letter for going to jail?:giggle:

racist

Braineack 05-03-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Rick (Post 722607)
racist

it's not racist if it's government sponsored racism.

Slayer 05-03-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 722612)
it's not racist if it's government sponsored racism.

I was speaking "off the record" with a hiring manager at a very large govt contractor (they make fighter jets) and he told me that even though I was a good fit for many of their job openings, and irrespective of education or work history, I'd probably never get hired, explaining, "You're too white and too male. We have plenty of you around already, and we're under a government magnifying glass to ensure equal opportunity for all." < his exact words. I laughed.

Braineack 05-03-2011 12:03 PM

imagine that.

soflarick 05-03-2011 01:32 PM

Guess this is a good place to ask. I met an engineer the other day who was formerly a Canadian resident. He said he came from Toronto. The city is billions in debt, but continues a policy of handouts to people who can obviously work, but don't because public benefits are so easy to obtain. One of his relative's spouse went to medical school on the Canadian government's dime (your tax dollars) with the stipulation that this person go to a certain city where doctors are needed. This person, after graduation, decided that this town wasn't going to benefit this person, so this person went on welfare, continues to collect it, and refuses to work since the benefits are enough it isn't worth working.

Seems like the US and Canada have quite a bit in common. Our socialist slavemasters must be rubbing their hands with glee.

Braineack 05-03-2011 01:34 PM

Yep. We help the unwilling and pretend they are unable.

soflarick 05-03-2011 01:41 PM

He told me that he left Canada because he was paying through the you know what in taxes, yet some of his family members actual net income was higher than his because they had "lower paying" jobs. He couldn't stand it anymore, and moved south. He also said that the US is on the way of being just as bad, and he can't believe we're letting it happen.

Braineack 05-03-2011 02:11 PM

Who are you going to vote for:

the side that gives you free stuff?

the side that tells you to get a job?

inferno94 05-03-2011 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by soflarick (Post 722667)
He told me that he left Canada because he was paying through the you know what in taxes, yet some of his family members actual net income was higher than his because they had "lower paying" jobs. He couldn't stand it anymore, and moved south. He also said that the US is on the way of being just as bad, and he can't believe we're letting it happen.

Our tax system is progressive in that the more you make the more you're taxed but there are tiers such that you can't have your net income lowered due to a .25c / hr pay raise. I explain this daily to the elderly who think they are going to go bankrupt from taxes if their investments keep going up.

Toronto in undergoing fairly massive reform under the new mayor. His election slogan was "stop the gravy train" and is working on things like fully privatized garbage collection. I'm not a resident (my grandmother is) and don't know how it's going but I understood they had curbside pickup 3 times a week.

Any Torontonians want to chime in on this?

Braineack 05-03-2011 02:18 PM

yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.

soflarick 05-03-2011 02:36 PM

Nevermind the taxes that the fed, state, county, and local governments levy that people aren't commonly aware of. I don't know how Canada is structured, but I'm sure they are similar to the US in general. I know in the US, once I add up the taxes I pay, it adds up to more than 50% of my income.

Braineack 05-03-2011 02:41 PM

you dont deserve your own money. you know that right?

there are people out there, that have a hard time getting off their new iphone to go look for a job or get educated. you owe it to them.

soflarick 05-03-2011 02:46 PM

What I'm concerned about is the pendulum swing going from the far left that we've got right now, to the far right (fascism). If things deteriorate much further, I wouldn't be surprised if another savior in the reincarnated form of Hitler were to appear. It never stabilizes in the center. Doesn't make the power brokers any money.

y8s 05-03-2011 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Slayer (Post 722617)
I was speaking "off the record" with a hiring manager at a very large govt contractor (they make fighter jets) and he told me that even though I was a good fit for many of their job openings, and irrespective of education or work history, I'd probably never get hired, explaining, "You're too white and too male. We have plenty of you around already, and we're under a government magnifying glass to ensure equal opportunity for all." < his exact words. I laughed.

Move out of Los Gatos to Salinas. Maybe they'll think you're hispanic.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 722684)
yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.

So what is your number? How much total tax would you be willing to pay for a minimal level of service from the govt?

Braineack 05-03-2011 02:55 PM

the Far Right? you mean Wilson and his Fasc...Progressive movement in WWI and you must mean Fasc...Leftist FDR and the New Deal during WWII?

Braineack 05-03-2011 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 722705)
So what is your number? How much total tax would you be willing to pay for a minimal level of service from the govt?

I'd be willing to pay the amount in taxes that the majority of the US households pays in federal income taxes currently.

:idea:

y8s 05-03-2011 04:11 PM

give me a non circular answer in percent.

falcon 05-03-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 722684)
yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.

Taxes vary greatly from province to province. But yes... overall too much. I made 52k last year and walked home with something like 42k.

Federal taxes are...


* 15% on the first $41,544 of taxable income, +
* 22% on the next $41,544 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $41,544 and $83,088), +
* 26% on the next $45,712 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $83,088 and $128,800), +
* 29% of taxable income over $128,800.

Provincial Taxes are...


Newfoundland and Labrador
7.7% on the first $31,904 of taxable income, +
12.5% on the next $31,903, +
13.3% on the amount over $63,807

Prince Edward Island
9.8% on the first $31,984 of taxable income, +
13.8% on the next $31,985, +
16.7% on the amount over $63,969

Nova Scotia
8.79% on the first $29,590 of taxable income, +
14.95% on the next $29,590, +
16.67% on the next $33,820 +
17.5% on the next $57,000
21% on the amount over $150,000

New Brunswick
9.1% on the first $37,150 of taxable income, +
12.1% on the next $37,150, +
12.4% on the next $46,496, +
14.3% on the amount over $120,796

Ontario
5.05% on the first $37,774 of taxable income, +
9.15% on the next $37,776, +
11.16% on the amount over $75,550

Manitoba
10.8% on the first $31,000 of taxable income, +
12.75% on the next $36,000, +
17.4% on the amount over $67,000

Saskatchewan
11% on the first $40,919 of taxable income, +
13% on the next $75,992, +
15% on the amount over $116,911

Alberta 10% of taxable income

British Columbia 5.06% on the first $36,146 of taxable income, +
7.7% on the next $36,147, +
10.5% on the next $10,708, +
12.29% on the next $17,786, +
14.7% on the amount over $100,787

Yukon
7.04% on the first $41,544 of taxable income, +
9.68% on the next $41,544, +
11.44% on the next $45,712, +
12.76% on the amount over $128,800

Northwest Territories
5.9% on the first $37,626 of taxable income, +
8.6% on the next $37,627, +
12.2% on the next $47,092, +
14.05% on the amount over $122,345

Nunavut
4% on the first $39,612 of taxable income, +
7% on the next $39,612, +
9% on the next $49,576, +
11.5% on the amount over $128,800

dustinb 05-03-2011 11:49 PM

I voted NDP and he got in. Woot!

At least we have a majority government now though. No more of these BS elections for at least 4 years.

falcon 05-03-2011 11:52 PM

I voted NDP just because I didn't want Nina Grewal to win in my riding. What a useless c*nt. She has done absolutely nothing in her time in Parliament. Her son was supposed to run, but got a DUI so her husband (who also is a member of Parliament) decided to throw her in his place.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/42...x400s,620x400s

soflarick 05-03-2011 11:57 PM

What about sales tax, property tax, municipal tax, fuel tax, alcohol or tobacco tax, airport and/or rental car taxes, communication taxes? Is there a VAT tax in Canada?

falcon 05-04-2011 01:31 AM

No VAT, but yes... when you add up everything you pay it's gets ridiculous. We just had "HST" implemented here in BC. We used to have GST and PST which equaled %12 on some items, but others only had GST. So now food, gas, and a bunch of other things that used to be only %7 are now %12.

We also had a carbon tax implemented in 08.


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