xturner

Some ******* who should have his human-race membership revoked shot up a woman congressman, killed a 9-yr-old and a judge, probably a few more. Congressperson shot in the head, at her event - presumably the primary target. I realize they want to get his official reason, but why is he still using up our oxygen?

She was a Democrat(allegedly a middle-of-the-roader).

By noon Sunday, I predict the media will blame Sarah Palin.

thirdgen

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22yr old. They used his full name just like they always do. Mark David chapman, john Wilkes booth, lee Harvey Oswald. Then it streams for ever about how a congress woman was shot. What about the other 17 people who were involved? ****** CNN pisses me off with their lack of detail. The rest of the blinded country doesn't notice.

Chiburbian

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To be fair thirdgen, he himself used his full name in his youtube videos. And some are already blaming Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

thirdgen

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What a ******. As far as blaming Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, that's a bunch of crap. I'm so sick and tired of everybody's **** right now it's sickeneing. I was driving to work last Sunday and I drove past this place where they have trap shoots. There were picketers out front holding signs that read "Pennsylvania Shame.com". If you go there, you will learn that there are actually people in this country that seem to forget that while the country is going down the toilet, they feel that it is more important to bitch about birds that are raised to be shot as a sport. Then the jerkoffs post a propoganda video which is total bullshit, to make it appear that it's a savage ordeal, but the video isn't even close to reality. Is this cruel? Yeah, but still. Find something else to bitch about. **** those birds, there's politicians getting shot at.

chicksdigmiatas

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Well the good Lord put us on top of the food chain so we do what we want with birds. I agree 100% though, stupid *** people in this country are more worried with piddly assed things other than the pressing matters. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars of private funds are wasted on this ****. Then the government thinks it is important too. Think of the global warming ****. Did you know that farmers have to pay a tax because the methane that cows emit supposedly is contributing to our "climate change." Ok that is it on my rant. This shooting was bullshit by a terrorist.

thirdgen

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I never heard about farmers paying a tax for methane emissions. If that's not BS it's fuct.

sixshooter

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It's because we have something more important than mob rule, called due process. It is preserved under our constitution.

I couldn't get my preferred local morning news station to come up this morning, so I flipped through and found Good Mourning America(sic) where George Stephanopolous was going on and on about this Senator. I was expecting them to move on to other news of the day, but they didn't; I knew she must have been a Democrat. They wouldn't have devoted more than one minute to a Republican Senator, but with her they droned on and on. I finally went to The Weather Channel to find out about the impending ice storm I was curious about.

Was it tragic? Yes. Nationally tragic? Not really. Locally tragic? Yes.
If they spend too much time on it will it inspire moronic copycats? It might. It glorifies the actions of the killer the more time they devote to the gravity of his actions.

sixshooter

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http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/...cow-tax-scare/

JasonC SBB

Not a fan of either but watch too for calls for more gun control.

Braineack

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Too bad no one in the crowd open carried...

chicksdigmiatas

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For real, an honest citizen could have just shot the terrorist. I bet that guy didn't legally own a gun, and I bet even more that he didn't have a carry permit. As far as the whole methane thing, I don't think it ever went into effect, but you can see what douchers that love to protest about **** that doesn't matter gets.

Braineack

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This is a perfect example of why there should be less gun control.

Too bad Giffords was a proponent of open carry and lax gun restrictions.

hustler

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CNN reported that Sarah Palin's website motivated this crime.

thirdgen

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So I guess it's Sarah Palin's fault then, right? **** CNN.

trickyrix

**** news, there's football on TV...

JayL

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Funny that you mention this, they actually made an announcement about this at the Seahawks game yesterday.

Braineack

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As it turns out:

A LEGALLY ARMED CITIZEN HELPED HOLD DOWN THE SHOOTER

As it turns out there was a legally armed citizen who helped subdue Jared
Lee Loughner. Upon hearing the shots, Joe Zamudio, who was legally carrying
concealed, RAN TOWARDS the shots (as I expect a lot of you would have done,
too), not away from the shots, hoping to stop the shooter and save lives.
As an armed citizen he was in a position to do just that. However, upon
arriving, he saw that Loughner had just been disarmed and two men were
struggling to subdue him. Zamudio, realizing there was no need for him to
draw his gun at that point, wisely left it concealed and proceeded to assist
in subduing and holding the shooter.

As I have said before, it is frequently the citizen who is the "first
responder" to crimes and emergencies out of necessity. They may have to
stop the actions of a violent criminal, render aid to a hurt person, etc.
while waiting for the police, ambulances, and firetrucks to arrive.

The Fox News timeline shows police/paramedics arriving eight minutes after
the first 9-1-1 call was placed. During that time the citizen first
responders were saving lives.

Here is the CNN interview where Zamudio talks about being armed, running
towards the shots, and helping hold Loughner:

From CNN: http://tinyurl.com/2vltqpp

Braineack

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I find this funny and expected. As Marilyn Manson put it "Burn the witches!":

At least one legislator is rushing to put forward an anti-gun bill because
of this tragedy. Other legislators are talking about putting in similar
bills.

Shamelessly as usual, the Brady Campaign has already called for donations to
their group based on the shooting.

As soon as today anti-gun New York Congresswoman Caroline McCarthy wants to
put in a bill limiting the magazine capacity of firearms:

From Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47338.html



meanwhile:


A HEARTBROKEN FATHER SPEAKS AGAINST MORE RESTRICTIONS

On the other side, the grieving father of the murdered 9-year-old girl tells
Fox News that his daughter would not want more restrictions placed on
Americans based on her death (this is a tough, tough interview to listen
to):

Scrappy Jack

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If I recall correctly, she also voted against Pelosi's leadership re-election and joined Boehner, et al in reading the Constitution on the Congressional floor.

re: Gun control: This really can be a nuanced debate, but I am constantly amazed at the otherwise intelligent people who seem to think that either:

(A) Making something illegal makes it impossible to get a hold of
or
(B) Someone who disregards laws against mass murder is going to obey laws regarding firearms restriction


I was also disappointed, but not surprised, at how quickly both sides of the partisan divide rushed to make this something other than a deranged madman lashing out before having any information on which to base their judgments.

pusha

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Because outlawing pistol grips, flash suppressors and bayonet lugs stop violent crime.