Mosque/ "Community Center" near WTC
08-21-2010, 09:27 AM
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Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
I assume I'm misinterpreting this quote, lol.
I assume I'm misinterpreting this quote, lol.
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08-21-2010, 09:36 AM
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Maybe when we're praying 5x per day people will remember what it was like when women could be in the same room as men. This will of course come after we move on from the President who bows to Muslim Kings.
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08-21-2010, 10:01 AM
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Is the building of the mosque in bad taste, maybe. Is it the builders right to, absolutely. The government should have no say so in this what so ever. Why it's even in the ******* news blows my mind. We always have to have our scapegoat group of people, and this decade it's the Muslim.
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08-21-2010, 10:31 AM
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The great recession is tough, Hussein Obama needs to take care of his Moslim brethren. You can't expect the Saudi King to pay for the Moslim inquisition. Praise Allah. Its time you dumbass Americans learned to accommodate Allah or get your heads cut off.
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08-21-2010, 02:49 PM
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Good luck because he never did. This is one of the areas I disagree with Obama, but I knew it on election day.
The Daily Show made some commentary about this last week. The media has played it out to be a Mosque is being built "on" Ground Zero when it's actually 2 blocks away. According to the show, there's an already existing Mosque 2-3 blocks away already and was actually there before the WTC buildings.
I believe they were talking about the Mosque's proximity to the actual site of the twin towers. The proposed community center is 2 blocks from the EDGE of the WTC site, but the Twin Towers were in the furthest corner from that edge.
“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)
“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
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08-21-2010, 03:04 PM
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As much as I dislike Keith Olbermann for being a partisan hack, this segment was spot on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0
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08-21-2010, 05:26 PM
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Umm... actually he did say that. It hasn't been 18 months though. I have a feeling you just like to troll.
I highly recommend you actually read deuteronomy and numbers instead of copying and pasting stuff you read off a bible bashing website, as fighting against oppression is a whole lot different than fighting nonbelievers. Take verses out of context again and you had better hope I don't go all "lawnmower man" on your ***™.
I agree.
I highly recommend you actually read deuteronomy and numbers instead of copying and pasting stuff you read off a bible bashing website, as fighting against oppression is a whole lot different than fighting nonbelievers. Take verses out of context again and you had better hope I don't go all "lawnmower man" on your ***™.
I agree.
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08-21-2010, 10:50 PM
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At no point during the campaign or his political career has he said he was against the war in Afghanistan. Period. If you want to prove that wrong, post something proving it instead of calling names. Good luck.
I highly recommend you actually read deuteronomy and numbers instead of copying and pasting stuff you read off a bible bashing website, as fighting against oppression is a whole lot different than fighting nonbelievers. Take verses out of context again and you had better hope I don't go all "lawnmower man" on your ***™.
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08-22-2010, 12:14 AM
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No, he didn't. Again, cite date/time when he ever said he was leaving Iraq. I know I'm new here but I am not new to politics and have shot down this point numerous times. The only 1/2 assed thing you will be able to point to is a statement about Iraq that was taken out of context and contained something along the lines of "bring the troops home"
At no point during the campaign or his political career has he said he was against the war in Afghanistan. Period. If you want to prove that wrong, post something proving it instead of calling names. Good luck.
I was just showing that some out of context quote means jack ****. All religions have some scripture that talks about killing non-believers. If Islam was based on violence like some idiots like to believe, we'd have a much bigger problem on our hands considering the number of people practicing it.
At no point during the campaign or his political career has he said he was against the war in Afghanistan. Period. If you want to prove that wrong, post something proving it instead of calling names. Good luck.
I was just showing that some out of context quote means jack ****. All religions have some scripture that talks about killing non-believers. If Islam was based on violence like some idiots like to believe, we'd have a much bigger problem on our hands considering the number of people practicing it.
I am pretty sure that bringing home the troops was to get the hippies that don't understand that some people just need to get shot's vote. But he did say it. He also promised us awesome health care to get people that don't like working's vote. It will be like Canada. You pay high taxes for it. Still have to pay some, or have insurance to supplement it, then when everyone is tired of working for peanuts for the government they will do a half assed job. Then we will just fly to another country and then pay full price for a procedure to have it done right. Obama just blows smoke up everyones ***. What we need to do, is man up, and quit throwing everyone money and aid so they will like us. Some people need their eyes opened and quit walking around with the attitude that since they are an American, they have the right to free school (college), healthcare, money, food, and housing. If we would all do a little work, this place would be better.
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08-22-2010, 01:29 AM
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No, he didn't. Again, cite date/time when he ever said he was leaving Iraq. I know I'm new here but I am not new to politics and have shot down this point numerous times. The only 1/2 assed thing you will be able to point to is a statement about Iraq that was taken out of context and contained something along the lines of "bring the troops home"
Iraq. Where did this Iraq stuff come from? Braineak and I are talking about afghanistan, bud.I was just showing that some out of context quote means jack ****. All religions have some scripture that talks about killing non-believers. If Islam was based on violence like some idiots like to believe, we'd have a much bigger problem on our hands considering the number of people practicing it.
Actually, there is one religion namely "christianity" that does not condone killing non-believers. There may be others but I am not up to speed of all the religions of the world.
And please, can we keep this down to 1, maybe 2 points? I am a lazy adolescent and don't want to quote a million points.
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08-22-2010, 11:25 AM
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"Let me say this as plainly as I can: By Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end. We seek a full transition to Iraqi responsibility for the security of your country." -Obama
and -10 on banning all religion. Aren't you all the pot calling the kettle black. Who are you to say your belief system is more "correct" than theirs? All religion is is a way for people to be indoctrinated with a belief system so they don't go crazy living each day knowing that this is it. There's always a crowd that takes everything to the extreme, but the idea of people adhering to a moral belief system is nothing to be judgmental about. Just disagree with them and leave it at that. They have every unalienable right to believe as they please. Are you going to force them to eat Solent Green as well?
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08-22-2010, 12:13 PM
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1 December 2009
"This review is now complete. And as Commander-in-Chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. These are the resources that we need to seize the initiative, while building the Afghan capacity that can allow for a responsible transition of our forces out of Afghanistan."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...n-and-pakistan
"This review is now complete. And as Commander-in-Chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. These are the resources that we need to seize the initiative, while building the Afghan capacity that can allow for a responsible transition of our forces out of Afghanistan."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...n-and-pakistan
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