If you are buying beans with no roast date, or are grinding them any earlier than right before you make the coffee, you're missing out. Freshness is key. When your beans look shiny and feel a little sticky, they are stale.

This is why I love whole foods coffee. They have the roast-hopper thingy in every store and I rarely see coffee with a roast date older than 2-days.

BTW, I have been engaging in a test of certain posters in this thread.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2D71.DTL&tsp=1

The case was thrown out almost instantaneously* (as I noted what should happen in my previous post), and the OP was substantially misleading. I noticed there was zero attempt to actually correct the OP by certain posters who *do* know better about this particular topic, including the case being thrown out. If you want to maintain a certain party line, regardless of what the actual truth is and even if you know better about it, there's a word for what you are doing. A word which the particular posters I'm addressing vehemently deny, but still actively engage in.

*: Relative to the speed of our legal system, at least. This case is a great example of our system working, not of our system being broken. The case didn't go anywhere and was basically thrown out as soon as the judge saw the case.

(Edit) Any chance of splitting this into a Coffee thread in Insert BS? I'd like to discuss some of this stuff (Disclaimer: I can't drink coffee anymore...At one point though, at one point!) and I think it would have a great deal more interest forum-wide then a small segment of forum posters.

that would have to be one ridiculous jury if this was to actually stick.

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Who got to receive the $640k?

He's in some liberal piece of shit British colony, probably pontificating about how free he can be with his homosexual lust in a gun-free nation that no one cares about.