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11-15-2016, 01:26 PM
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UK Approves Muslims Aborting Female Babies for Fear of Appearing ?Racist? - The Geller Report
UK drops sex-selective abortion prosecution of Muslims for fear of appearing “racist” By Robert Spencer, November 14, 2016:
Here is yet another example of what we saw here. “Asian” is British media euphemism for “Muslim.” Said Mandy Sanghera: “There is a fear of not wanting to be accused of being racist. People are so scared about being political correct that they are blinded. They have lost their moral compass and their ability challenge cultural norms that have no place in 21st century Britain.”
Here is yet another example of what we saw here. “Asian” is British media euphemism for “Muslim.” Said Mandy Sanghera: “There is a fear of not wanting to be accused of being racist. People are so scared about being political correct that they are blinded. They have lost their moral compass and their ability challenge cultural norms that have no place in 21st century Britain.”
The Crown Prosecution Service failed to secure what could have been the first conviction for sex-selective abortion after dropping a case amid fears of “political correctness”, a government aide has revealed.
Mandy Sanghera, a human rights activist who advises the government on how to tackle honour-based violence, told the Daily Telegraph how prosecutors failed to pursue a case involving an Asian woman whose family forced her to have an abortion, for fear of being labelled racist.
“When her family found out the baby was a girl, she was put under a lot of emotional pressure and duress. She did not want to have that termination,” said Ms Sanghera. “She already had a girl and they said ‘what about the dowry? We can’t afford to have another daughter’.”
When the woman reported the crime to police they did not recognise it as honour-based abuse at first, said Ms Sanghera.
But when they pursued the case and the woman said she wanted to prosecute, the CPS refused to press charges for the offence, claiming it was not in the public interest and that it was a “family matter”. The husband later pleaded guilty to controlling behaviour and was sent on a course.
“Because they didn’t think she would make a competent witness…because she didn’t have physical injuries, they said it wasn’t in the public interest,” said Ms Sanghera, who is one of the founders of and advisors to the Foreign Office and Home Office’s joint Forced Marriage Unit.
“She felt [the case had been] abandoned for cultural reasons. Her having that termination was the nail in the coffin after all the psychological abuse. When she went and asked for help she didn’t get it.”
Had the CPS taken up the case, from 2014, it could have led to the first prosecution for sex selective abortion in Britain….
Ms Sanghera said: “There is a fear of not wanting to be accused of being racist. People are so scared about being political correct that they are blinded. They have lost their moral compass and their ability challenge cultural norms that have no place in 21st century Britain.”…
Mandy Sanghera, a human rights activist who advises the government on how to tackle honour-based violence, told the Daily Telegraph how prosecutors failed to pursue a case involving an Asian woman whose family forced her to have an abortion, for fear of being labelled racist.
“When her family found out the baby was a girl, she was put under a lot of emotional pressure and duress. She did not want to have that termination,” said Ms Sanghera. “She already had a girl and they said ‘what about the dowry? We can’t afford to have another daughter’.”
When the woman reported the crime to police they did not recognise it as honour-based abuse at first, said Ms Sanghera.
But when they pursued the case and the woman said she wanted to prosecute, the CPS refused to press charges for the offence, claiming it was not in the public interest and that it was a “family matter”. The husband later pleaded guilty to controlling behaviour and was sent on a course.
“Because they didn’t think she would make a competent witness…because she didn’t have physical injuries, they said it wasn’t in the public interest,” said Ms Sanghera, who is one of the founders of and advisors to the Foreign Office and Home Office’s joint Forced Marriage Unit.
“She felt [the case had been] abandoned for cultural reasons. Her having that termination was the nail in the coffin after all the psychological abuse. When she went and asked for help she didn’t get it.”
Had the CPS taken up the case, from 2014, it could have led to the first prosecution for sex selective abortion in Britain….
Ms Sanghera said: “There is a fear of not wanting to be accused of being racist. People are so scared about being political correct that they are blinded. They have lost their moral compass and their ability challenge cultural norms that have no place in 21st century Britain.”…
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11-15-2016, 01:31 PM
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Source: Sex determination in India: Doctors tell their side of the story
Case shouldn't have been dropped though.
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11-15-2016, 01:32 PM
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Something which would, judging by the experience of the past six decades, appear to be quite popular among both republican and democratic administrations, and which strengthens the argument in favor of a libertarian administration which is more concerned with the well-being of its own citizens than with furthering the image of "America: World Police."
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11-15-2016, 02:06 PM
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lol do you happen to have any first hand news or are you just reading what little media comes out? The muslim refugees are destroying europe. Ever heard of the mass rapes in germany that the EU is forcing germany to cover up? According to the people that did them they did it because it's acceptable in their culture and in their religion. In eastern europe theres a plague spreading that started specifically after they forced the eastern europe countries like bulgaria to accept refugees. Note that the plague is not common in that region however it is common in syria and surrounding middle eastern countries. Coincidence?
You remind me a lot of my ex.. "but i know 1 person from that race, clearly you're wrong because that one person is really nice" Stop comparing the few people you know that have been born into the civilized lifestyle with people that have lived in a warzone their entire life.
You remind me a lot of my ex.. "but i know 1 person from that race, clearly you're wrong because that one person is really nice" Stop comparing the few people you know that have been born into the civilized lifestyle with people that have lived in a warzone their entire life.
what do you think is the EU? Forcing Germany to cover up? Where do you get these news? Forced Eastern European countries to accept refugees? Sorry, you have no idea how the EU works.
Have you ever lived in Europe? I lived there even before there was a European Union.
You may know your country's political situation but you sure have no idea about Europe.
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11-15-2016, 02:19 PM
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what do you think is the EU? Forcing Germany to cover up? Where do you get these news? Forced Eastern European countries to accept refugees? Sorry, you have no idea how the EU works.
Have you ever lived in Europe? I lived there even before there was a European Union.
You may know your country's political situation but you sure have no idea about Europe.
Have you ever lived in Europe? I lived there even before there was a European Union.
You may know your country's political situation but you sure have no idea about Europe.
And yes forcing germany to cover it up. They dont want the civilians to know the ruthless race that is coming in so there's less objections.
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11-15-2016, 02:55 PM
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In the context of a presidential cabinet, everyone's viewpoint merits discussion and criticism regardless of their political leaning. Not to do so is to take the first voluntary step towards a totalitarian state.
Something which would, judging by the experience of the past six decades, appear to be quite popular among both republican and democratic administrations, and which strengthens the argument in favor of a libertarian administration which is more concerned with the well-being of its own citizens than with furthering the image of "America: World Police."
Something which would, judging by the experience of the past six decades, appear to be quite popular among both republican and democratic administrations, and which strengthens the argument in favor of a libertarian administration which is more concerned with the well-being of its own citizens than with furthering the image of "America: World Police."
Re: World police: Oh yeah, I wasn't referring to one party meriting special considerations.
Not sure libertarianism is the answer though. Just because you think primarily about your own citizens doesn't excuse lack of knowledge about the world. Atleast that was the case with this years candidate. Libertarianism seems to push federalism as well right? Doesn't that lead to different permissible rights within different states? That's kind of a weird issue for me personally, especially when it comes to civil rights.
Then again, I don't really profess to know all the answers.
lol yes I've lived in Europe. Also i have family that lives in Bulgaria, Italy, and have a decent amount of friends in the UK as well as 2 cousins and an uncle that all drive trucks across europe. They see it first hand.
And yes forcing germany to cover it up. They dont want the civilians to know the ruthless race that is coming in so there's less objections.
And yes forcing germany to cover it up. They dont want the civilians to know the ruthless race that is coming in so there's less objections.
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11-15-2016, 04:48 PM
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During a CNN panel on the recent anti-Trump protests, Symone said, “What I heard is, most people on both sides should just cut it all out. And a hate crime is not the same thing as protesting! We have to be very deliberate about that!”
To which another guest on the show (a white male, by the way) said, “What do you say to the people who dragged a poor white guy out of a car and beat him—”
But before he could finish his sentence, Symone interrupted, “Oh my goodness! Poor white people! Stop! Stop it, Carl!”
To which another guest on the show (a white male, by the way) said, “What do you say to the people who dragged a poor white guy out of a car and beat him—”
But before he could finish his sentence, Symone interrupted, “Oh my goodness! Poor white people! Stop! Stop it, Carl!”
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11-15-2016, 04:51 PM
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lol -- joke about having access to the atomic bomb:
Radio host Todd Kincannon from The Kincannon Show tweeted today that a CNN reporter told him Hillary Clinton became physically violent towards Robby Mook and John Podesta around midnight last Tuesday as the presidency was slipping away.
I sure hope someone has video… somewhere. That would be epic!
CNN reporter tells me Hillary became physically violent towards Robby Mook and John Podesta around midnight; had to be briefly restrained.
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 14, 2016
Hillary Clinton did not make it on stage that night. She sent John Podesta out instead.
Hillary was drunk.
She was. I posted about that too. She was in a "psychotic drunken rage" according to my reporter friend. Doctor added sedatives to the mix. https://t.co/jZv376ydDM
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 15, 2016
The reporter said CNN would not publish the story!
The CNN reporter didn't fail to report it. His editors will not let him. CNN has banned all "Hillary in the bunker" stories. https://t.co/Iq7WlezU4i
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 15, 2016
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 14, 2016
Hillary Clinton did not make it on stage that night. She sent John Podesta out instead.
Hillary was drunk.
She was. I posted about that too. She was in a "psychotic drunken rage" according to my reporter friend. Doctor added sedatives to the mix. https://t.co/jZv376ydDM
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 15, 2016
The reporter said CNN would not publish the story!
The CNN reporter didn't fail to report it. His editors will not let him. CNN has banned all "Hillary in the bunker" stories. https://t.co/Iq7WlezU4i
— The Kincannon Show (@kincannon_show) November 15, 2016
I sure hope someone has video… somewhere. That would be epic!
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11-15-2016, 05:08 PM
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Calling islam one religion is like arguing that catholics, protestants, etc all believe the same thing. Regardless, the biggest threat is wahabi-ism and in that vein, the irony of letting the saudis leave the US right after 9/11, even though they've been funding wahabi-ism is bizarre. Our immense funding of Saudi Arabia is also bizarre.
And re: islam and equality. Sure I guess feminism does a spit take with that, but hey catholicism has its share of issues too. I don't see folks jumping on to criticize hasidic jews the same way they do with islam. The "yeah we're bad but you're worse" ideology is kind of self serving. It's just another convenient thing to blame for problems. Don't get me wrong, extremism is definitely an issue but not all islam is extremist. Like not every Irishman is trying to blow up their government IRA style.
Re: Ben Affleck. No idea what he thinks. Don't really care to know. Maher has quite the islamaphobic track record as well.
Iran's political and religious system prior to the revolution and the ayatollah were pretty solid. Extremism and populism are making a comeback. I can call out a neo-**** for being a ***** without insulting or blaming all white people. Why aren't muslims afforded the same luxury?
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11-15-2016, 08:25 PM
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And re: islam and equality. Sure I guess feminism does a spit take with that, but hey catholicism has its share of issues too. I don't see folks jumping on to criticize hasidic jews the same way they do with islam. The "yeah we're bad but you're worse" ideology is kind of self serving. It's just another convenient thing to blame for problems. Don't get me wrong, extremism is definitely an issue but not all islam is extremist. Like not every Irishman is trying to blow up their government IRA style.
Re: Ben Affleck. No idea what he thinks. Don't really care to know. Maher has quite the islamaphobic track record as well.
Iran's political and religious system prior to the revolution and the ayatollah were pretty solid. Extremism and populism are making a comeback. I can call out a neo-**** for being a ***** without insulting or blaming all white people. Why aren't muslims afforded the same luxury?
Re: Ben Affleck. No idea what he thinks. Don't really care to know. Maher has quite the islamaphobic track record as well.
Iran's political and religious system prior to the revolution and the ayatollah were pretty solid. Extremism and populism are making a comeback. I can call out a neo-**** for being a ***** without insulting or blaming all white people. Why aren't muslims afforded the same luxury?
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11-15-2016, 09:56 PM
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Actually 2 pages ago i was speaking how people shouldnt be forced to live by the Christians beliefs either. The difference is however that I have a much lower chance of being murdered by other Christians for no longer believing in it for whatever reasons. On the other hand if you go to some country in the middle east and say you're now an atheist you're getting your head cut off with a piece of sheet metal. Now lets consider your other statement about not insulting all white people by calling out a neo ****. Being a **** isnt a religion but lets talk about your message here. Most atheists wouldnt care if you're a muslim that no longer follows that religion. On the other hand most christians or catholics would. Where i'm getting at is this is a religious issue. Personally i've read quite a few parts of the qiran and i was disgusted with it. How one chooses to follow such evil things is beyond me. Same reason why i didnt want christianity in my life as well.
Depends on the country in the middle east, some of them are non secular. If you're living in a country like saudi arabia, then yes you wouldn't want to say something that can get you fucked for blasphemy laws. I wouldn't want to live in such a place and I would probably have a hard time shutting my big ******* mouth if I was visiting lol.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of refugees have no interest in turning their host country into an islamic state...because that's what they're fleeing.
Neo-**** would be anti-semitic though, not anti muslim per-se. Well they'd be anti a lot of things. I see what you were trying to say, but I just meant without dragging the rest of the 'demographic' through the mud.
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11-15-2016, 10:27 PM
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You might just as well ask "why do democrats stand in the middle of highways" or "why do Muslims want to blow up buildings?"
They are all false generalizations.
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11-15-2016, 10:41 PM
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I always wonder how many people in the US and Europe who vehemently defend Islam and the Middle East regularly interact with people who grew up in the Middle East in a social capacity. I ask this because I use to jump to their defense as well until I started dating an Arabic woman from Jordan who also spent a fair amount of her childhood in Libya. There is definitely a huge cultural problem in the Middle East and the Islamic religion is heavily intertwined in the problem. However, many of the issues are so systemic to the Arabic cultures that they extend into the Christian and secular minorities to a lesser extent. She will be the first one to tell you so well. Here are some concise facts that will help you see how Muslims from Middle Eastern countries will simply not integrate well into a western society:
- Her family is part of the Christian minority and the women so not wear covers in public. However, they still dress conservatively.
- While growing up and even until this day none of the women will go to the market without a man because they will be groped and assaulted by Muslim men without fail.
- During Ramadan Christian restaurants stay open but roll their front industrial doors down to shin height so that Muslims don't have to watch them eat. A casual concern of my girlfriend's growing up was to make sure she knew which partially rolled up doors belonged to actual Christian restaurants as it was common for Muslim men to partially roll up a door to lure Christian girls into the building and rape them.
- She was openly sexually harassed on the regular by men on the street once she hit 13 and began to sexually develop. Because she didn't wear a cover it was assumed she was easy, a *****, a prostitute, or just simply asking for it.
- Dating by a western definition isn't really a thing in much of the Middle East either. Families simply call each other and ask if they have any daughters to marry because their son is ready for a wife. The families meet and the women serve the men a meal. All available daughters are paraded in front of the suitor and he picks them primarily off of looks as they have not really spoken. They may 'date' for a few months before getting married. Dates are mostly supervised.
- Her dad was a doctor for an oil company which is why they spent a large amount of time in Libya. He quit after he and 7 of his coworkers were imprisoned and tortured for 45 days for no other reason than being Christian. They would have been killed if they had not escaped.
- Her family is very progressive by Middle Eastern standards as is Jordan as a whole but it is still more conservative than the most conservative republicans in the US. Which means most Arabs are so far right of anything in Western Europe that they are not even in the same universe.
- She would be disowned by her extended family and possibly her own parents if it became known that we either had sex or lived together prior to marriage. She would at a minimum be harassed and **** shamed and at worst receive death threats.
- when 9/11 happened she was in Libya living in the westernized camp run by the oil company. They couldn't leave the gated encampment for days because the Muslims in the surrounding city were celebrating the victory against the US and attacking Christians who ventured out.
- She has a strong distaste for Arabic men. Not just Muslims. Arabic men in general. She is regularly sexually harassed verbally by Arabic men when they find out she is arabic and can speak the language. This has happened in the US, Switzerland, Belgium, UK, and Spain.
These are all facts and not disputable. There are plenty of good Middle Eastern people and Muslims but there is a systemic cultural issue in these areas. The situations I outlined above are common and not exclusive to her. Her 2 sisters have many similar stories and she is also actively involved in an organization which works to improve women's rights in the Middle East. The longer people refuse to acknowledge and confront these issues as systemic cultural problems the worse it will become.
- Her family is part of the Christian minority and the women so not wear covers in public. However, they still dress conservatively.
- While growing up and even until this day none of the women will go to the market without a man because they will be groped and assaulted by Muslim men without fail.
- During Ramadan Christian restaurants stay open but roll their front industrial doors down to shin height so that Muslims don't have to watch them eat. A casual concern of my girlfriend's growing up was to make sure she knew which partially rolled up doors belonged to actual Christian restaurants as it was common for Muslim men to partially roll up a door to lure Christian girls into the building and rape them.
- She was openly sexually harassed on the regular by men on the street once she hit 13 and began to sexually develop. Because she didn't wear a cover it was assumed she was easy, a *****, a prostitute, or just simply asking for it.
- Dating by a western definition isn't really a thing in much of the Middle East either. Families simply call each other and ask if they have any daughters to marry because their son is ready for a wife. The families meet and the women serve the men a meal. All available daughters are paraded in front of the suitor and he picks them primarily off of looks as they have not really spoken. They may 'date' for a few months before getting married. Dates are mostly supervised.
- Her dad was a doctor for an oil company which is why they spent a large amount of time in Libya. He quit after he and 7 of his coworkers were imprisoned and tortured for 45 days for no other reason than being Christian. They would have been killed if they had not escaped.
- Her family is very progressive by Middle Eastern standards as is Jordan as a whole but it is still more conservative than the most conservative republicans in the US. Which means most Arabs are so far right of anything in Western Europe that they are not even in the same universe.
- She would be disowned by her extended family and possibly her own parents if it became known that we either had sex or lived together prior to marriage. She would at a minimum be harassed and **** shamed and at worst receive death threats.
- when 9/11 happened she was in Libya living in the westernized camp run by the oil company. They couldn't leave the gated encampment for days because the Muslims in the surrounding city were celebrating the victory against the US and attacking Christians who ventured out.
- She has a strong distaste for Arabic men. Not just Muslims. Arabic men in general. She is regularly sexually harassed verbally by Arabic men when they find out she is arabic and can speak the language. This has happened in the US, Switzerland, Belgium, UK, and Spain.
These are all facts and not disputable. There are plenty of good Middle Eastern people and Muslims but there is a systemic cultural issue in these areas. The situations I outlined above are common and not exclusive to her. Her 2 sisters have many similar stories and she is also actively involved in an organization which works to improve women's rights in the Middle East. The longer people refuse to acknowledge and confront these issues as systemic cultural problems the worse it will become.
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11-16-2016, 12:27 AM
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I think this is such bullshit:
Colin Kaepernick never registered to vote, even before protest | The Sacramento Bee
“I said from the beginning I was against oppression, I was against the system of oppression,” Kaepernick said. “I’m not going to show support for that system. And to me, the oppressor isn’t going to allow you to vote your way out of your oppression.”
Apparently he has no problem being part of "the system" which pays him millions of dollars though. What an immature ******* tool. Everyone knows that voting won't do any good, but bitching will.
Colin Kaepernick never registered to vote, even before protest | The Sacramento Bee
“I said from the beginning I was against oppression, I was against the system of oppression,” Kaepernick said. “I’m not going to show support for that system. And to me, the oppressor isn’t going to allow you to vote your way out of your oppression.”
Apparently he has no problem being part of "the system" which pays him millions of dollars though. What an immature ******* tool. Everyone knows that voting won't do any good, but bitching will.
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11-16-2016, 01:17 AM
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And this apparently happened.
Trump Plans to Quit Paris Deal, Hires Climate Denier for EPA Transition Team
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