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None. He's already said that elimination of the cabinet departments will not involve cessation of those functions or layoffs of current employees. There will simply be no new funding allocated for those departments and the employee base will be reduced by attrition.
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And even if it did, what would it matter? Gradual change is kinder than immediate, but either way it only helps to shift those employees out of unproductive jobs into productive jobs.
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And even if it did, what would it matter? Gradual change is kinder than immediate, but either way it only helps to shift those employees out of unproductive jobs into productive jobs.
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I am not understanding the fundamental difference between starving it of an operating budget and just shuttering it completely.
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And even if it did, what would it matter? Gradual change is kinder than immediate, but either way it only helps to shift those employees out of unproductive jobs into productive jobs.
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Regarding the question of the real feasibility of serious budget cuts when forced to work with Congress, etc. -- is this really an actual objection? It's counted as a strike against Ron Paul that others may not be willing to cut the budget as much as he'd like?
Of course it would be a battle for him to construct a budget that has some serious cuts that would get passed by Congress. That's how the system works. But at the very least, we'd have a chief executive who actually desires budget cuts, rather than just another liar who says he's cutting the budget by X amount, when what he really means is that he's cutting into projected future spending increases by X amount (but when we reach that point, we'll probably not cut the spending increase by X anyway).
One step at a time. Get a President who's serious about constructing a balanced budget, and then vote out the jackasses in Congress if they won't pass it.
Of course it would be a battle for him to construct a budget that has some serious cuts that would get passed by Congress. That's how the system works. But at the very least, we'd have a chief executive who actually desires budget cuts, rather than just another liar who says he's cutting the budget by X amount, when what he really means is that he's cutting into projected future spending increases by X amount (but when we reach that point, we'll probably not cut the spending increase by X anyway).
One step at a time. Get a President who's serious about constructing a balanced budget, and then vote out the jackasses in Congress if they won't pass it.
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any country that's serious about their future reduces & limits gov't spending, and gets rid of pointless pencil pusher jobs that do nothing but slow the economy. This is something even Canada beats us at.
#630
guilty as charged
my point is that the president of the united states has full power to bring the troops home whenever he pleases
as a congress man ron paul does not
lemme rephrase my question.
were you trying to say that obama can't bring the troops home right now if he wants too?
and why did he break his campaign promise?
is it because he did not have the power?
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Assume it is calendar year 2014 and the Department of TSP Reports has a budget of $2 billion for fiscal year 2015. What happens in calendar year 2015 under your understanding of Paul's plan? After that?
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Just so you know, I wrote to my congresswoman and one of the things she (or more likely her secretary) pointed me to was this:
If you would like to report welfare fraud and abuse in Florida, please e-mail the Florida Department of Children and Families at http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/ig/fraud.shtml
So if you know some POS welfare abuser in FL, report them.
If you would like to report welfare fraud and abuse in Florida, please e-mail the Florida Department of Children and Families at http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/admin/ig/fraud.shtml
So if you know some POS welfare abuser in FL, report them.
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The comical part was the continued Rodney Dangerfielding of Ron Paul.