Current Events, News, Politics Keep the politics here.

The Current Events, News, and Politics Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:44 PM
  #7441  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
triple88a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 10,454
Total Cats: 1,799
Default

They missed the lesson on not standing in the middle of a dark highway.

Facebook Post
triple88a is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 06:57 AM
  #7442  
Senior Member
 
hector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Hollywood, FL
Posts: 807
Total Cats: 163
Default

Originally Posted by cal_len1

Modern technology has opened a window for us into the whole wide world. But how many of us use it just as an echo chamber?
This has always been my sentiment. I thought communication technology would open up the minds but I feel it has just made it easier to control them. People don't think for themselves anymore and they are segregating themselves into these like-minded groups that don't tolerate any contrary ideas. It's not even live and let live anymore. You must fall into line with this way of thinking or I will not tolerate you. It's fanaticism. The same thing we accuse the Muslims and Communists and KKK of. You may not think it's that harmful but when you say to yourself "how did we get here?" it's most likely too late. And this applies to anyone, not just liberals. People need to figure out what is actually worth condeming others for and not just blindly attacking them because they don't believe in what they do.

About the dumbest movie ever made had one of the greatest lines: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals". Men In Black
hector is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 09:24 AM
  #7443  
Elite Member
 
JasonC SBB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

More than half of arrested anti-Trump protesters didn't vote in Oregon | KGW.com
JasonC SBB is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 10:45 AM
  #7444  
Elite Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Rafa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunny Spanish speaking Non US Caribbean
Posts: 3,224
Total Cats: 3
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
Have you read about the increasing cases of discrimination by immigrants towards Britians?

I have mostly read about discrimination towards immigrants. I have a niece (the oldest daughter of one of my sisters) who's been living in London for over 10 years. Married to a French guy and they had a daughter who's 2 years old and was born in London. Both she and her husband have always been employed, paid their taxes and even bought a home. They're feeling it as we speak. And they both immigrated to GB when it was completely normal and legal to do so. They haven't broken any laws. They don't deserve to be treated as second class citizens. Are you aware of how many hundreds of thousands of British subjects live in the southern coast of Spain retired?

I think you're absolutely wrong in this case.
Rafa is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 10:55 AM
  #7445  
Elite Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Rafa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunny Spanish speaking Non US Caribbean
Posts: 3,224
Total Cats: 3
Default

Originally Posted by sixshooter
Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition

Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition

Choosing Myron Ebell means Trump plans to drastically reshape climate policiesCredit: GAGE SKIDMORE Flickr Donald Trump has selected one of the best-known climate skeptics to lead his U.S. EPA transition team, according to two sources close to the campaign.
Myron Ebell, director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute, is spearheading Trump’s transition plans for EPA, the sources said.
The Trump team has also lined up leaders for its Energy Department and Interior Department teams. Republican energy lobbyist Mike McKenna is heading the DOE team; former Interior Department solicitor David Bernhardt is leading the effort for that agency, according to sources close to the campaign.
Ebell is a well-known and polarizing figure in the energy and environment realm. His participation in the EPA transition signals that the Trump team is looking to drastically reshape the climate policies the agency has pursued under the Obama administration. Ebell’s role is likely to infuriate environmentalists and Democrats but buoy critics of Obama’s climate rules.
Ebell, who was dubbed an “elegant nerd” and a “policy wonk” by Vanity Fair, is known for his prolific writings that question what he calls climate change “alarmism.” He appears frequently in the media and before Congress. He’s also chairman of the Cooler Heads Coalition, a group of nonprofits that “question global warming alarmism and oppose energy-rationing policies.”
Ebell appears to relish criticism from the left.
In a biography submitted when he testified before Congress, he listed among his recognitions that he had been featured in a Greenpeace “Field Guide to Climate Criminals,” dubbed a “misleader” on global warming by Rolling Stone and was the subject of a motion to censure in the British House of Commons after Ebell criticized the United Kingdom’s chief scientific adviser for his views on global warming.
More recently, Ebell has called the Obama administration’s Clean Power Plan for greenhouse gases illegal and said that Obama joining the Paris climate treaty “is clearly an unconstitutional usurpation of the Senate’s authority.”
He told Vanity Fair in 2007, “There has been a little bit of warming ... but it’s been very modest and well within the range for natural variability, and whether it’s caused by human beings or not, it’s nothing to worry about.”
Ebell’s views appear to square with Trump’s when it comes to EPA’s agenda. Trump has called global warming “bullshit” and he has said he would “cancel” the Paris global warming accord and roll back President Obama’s executive actions on climate change (ClimateWire, May 27).
Leading the Trump DOE team: GOP hired gun McKenna.
The president of MWR Strategies is well known in Republican energy circles. He was director of policy and external affairs for the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality under then-Gov. George Allen (R) and was an external relations specialist at the Energy Department during the George H.W. Bush administration.

Shooter, do you agree with that pick?
Rafa is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 11:03 AM
  #7446  
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Ryan_G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 2,568
Total Cats: 217
Default

Trump's appointments thus far have been rather 'upsetting' for lack of a better word.
Ryan_G is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 11:14 AM
  #7447  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

Originally Posted by Rafa
I think you're absolutely wrong in this case.
here's over 900 cases:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/152875...d-child-abuse/

this report suggests that the Bristish gov't needs to teach immigrants how to treat women:
Male refugees settling in Britain need to be formally taught how to treat women, says Labour MP

the british need armed guards while in France:
Armed guards for British tourists in France after wave of ISIS terror attacks - Mirror Online

muslims dont like british lifestyles:
http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...s-really-think
only a small percentage would even report terrorism against england...

100% of british muslims dont like british gays:
Poll finds zero tolerance for homosexuality among UK Muslims · PinkNews

The poll, part of the the Gallup Coexist Index 2009, found that not one of the 1,001 British Muslims interviewed believed homosexual acts were morally acceptable.

...

In comparison to British Muslims, 35 per cent of French Muslims and 19 per cent of German Muslims did not have moral objections to homosexual acts.

so it's not surprising...

this is old but:
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/col...e-great-nation
A relentless flood of arrivals, running at a rate of more than 500,000 a year, has already transformed the very fabric of our society. As a result of our open borders Britain is now the most overcrowded nation in Europe. By 2015 our population density will be twice that of Germany and more than four times that of France.

...

WHAT is so sickening is that we never voted for this upheaval. Mass immigration and the creation of a multi-cultural society have all been imposed without a shred of democratic consent. Opinion polls show that the overwhelming majority of the public want tighter border controls.

Yet this natural instinct is treated with contempt by the bullying ideologues of the proimmigration brigade, who hurl accusations of racism and xenophobia against anyone who dares challenge their project.
so i get your point, but instead of immigrating to England and living as a British citizen, they are moving there and taking over and turning it into another shithole. The left are too big of pussies to recognize it and stop it, cause #safespace. I'm sure if you lived there and saw a group of people taking over your country and completely changing the culture for the negative--while having full support of the govt, you'd be a little discriminatory too. This played a huge part in Brexit.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 11:57 AM
  #7448  
Elite Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Rafa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunny Spanish speaking Non US Caribbean
Posts: 3,224
Total Cats: 3
Default

what are you saying braineack, the British just discovered this? Do you know how many immigrants they have from former colonies such as Pakistan and India? They're in a tough spot but please don't blame the current situation for that.
Rafa is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:03 PM
  #7449  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ridethecliche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: New Fucking Jersey
Posts: 3,890
Total Cats: 143
Default

Originally Posted by Ryan_G
Trump's appointments thus far have been rather 'upsetting' for lack of a better word.
Yeah, for all the talk of draining the swamp he seems to be surrounding himself with it.
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:15 PM
  #7450  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
triple88a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 10,454
Total Cats: 1,799
Default

Originally Posted by Rafa
I have mostly read about discrimination towards immigrants. I have a niece (the oldest daughter of one of my sisters) who's been living in London for over 10 years. Married to a French guy and they had a daughter who's 2 years old and was born in London. Both she and her husband have always been employed, paid their taxes and even bought a home. They're feeling it as we speak. And they both immigrated to GB when it was completely normal and legal to do so. They haven't broken any laws. They don't deserve to be treated as second class citizens. Are you aware of how many hundreds of thousands of British subjects live in the southern coast of Spain retired?

I think you're absolutely wrong in this case.
lol do you happen to have any first hand news or are you just reading what little media comes out? The muslim refugees are destroying europe. Ever heard of the mass rapes in germany that the EU is forcing germany to cover up? According to the people that did them they did it because it's acceptable in their culture and in their religion. In eastern europe theres a plague spreading that started specifically after they forced the eastern europe countries like bulgaria to accept refugees. Note that the plague is not common in that region however it is common in syria and surrounding middle eastern countries. Coincidence?

You remind me a lot of my ex.. "but i know 1 person from that race, clearly you're wrong because that one person is really nice" Stop comparing the few people you know that have been born into the civilized lifestyle with people that have lived in a warzone their entire life.
triple88a is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:17 PM
  #7451  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

Originally Posted by Rafa
what are you saying braineack, the British just discovered this? Do you know how many immigrants they have from former colonies such as Pakistan and India? They're in a tough spot but please don't blame the current situation for that.
i dont quite understand the point here.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:42 PM
  #7452  
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,022
Total Cats: 6,590
Default

Originally Posted by Rafa
Do you know how many immigrants they have from former colonies such as Pakistan and India?
I'll wager a guess. Is it six?

It's six, isn't it?

I knew it.


I'm tired of recriminations about the election, and far-reaching speculation as to its consequences.

Time for random economic observations.


Joe Perez is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:48 PM
  #7453  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ridethecliche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: New Fucking Jersey
Posts: 3,890
Total Cats: 143
Default

Last I heard, the Indians really weren't really causing issues in the UK.

I'm all for refugees, but I definitely think that they need to abide by the laws of the country they accept to go to.

That said, brain, I'm curious about this. What responsibility, if any, do you think country's should have to the people of other nations where the former country starts wars/proxy wars etc and creates or amplifies a crisis?

Joe, re: recriminations
What kind of message does appointing someone like Steve Bannon in an official context send?
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 12:50 PM
  #7454  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

none.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:07 PM
  #7455  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ridethecliche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: New Fucking Jersey
Posts: 3,890
Total Cats: 143
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
none.
Okay. Do you think they have a business being there in the first place?
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:15 PM
  #7456  
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,022
Total Cats: 6,590
Default

Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Joe, re: recriminations
What kind of message does appointing someone like Steve Bannon in an official context send?
I can only speculate here, but if I had to guess, I'd say it sens the message "I feel that Steve Bannon is an appropriate person to fill this position within my administration."
Joe Perez is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:17 PM
  #7457  
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,022
Total Cats: 6,590
Default

Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Okay. Do you think they have a business being there in the first place?
Trick question: jobless refugees have no business anywhere.

Joe Perez is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:19 PM
  #7458  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ridethecliche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: New Fucking Jersey
Posts: 3,890
Total Cats: 143
Default

Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I can only speculate here, but if I had to guess, I'd say it sens the message "I feel that Steve Bannon is an appropriate person to fill this position within my administration."
Fair enough. Does that person's viewpoint merit discussion or warrant criticism? Especially if a president-elect is claiming to be a unifier?
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:23 PM
  #7459  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ridethecliche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: New Fucking Jersey
Posts: 3,890
Total Cats: 143
Default

Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Trick question: jobless refugees have no business anywhere.

I was referring to a country engaging in proxy or direct wars elsewhere.

I mean meddling has bit us in the *** before, no? Re: afghanisthan and arming the mujahedeen (and osama directly). Broken promises of rebuilding let to the vitriol that fueled his flames for 9/11. My buddies were/are getting shot at with weapons we gave them in the cold war times.
Then there's the befuddlement of the CIA and pentagon armed rebels in syria fighting each other. It's a mess.
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 11-15-2016, 01:25 PM
  #7460  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Okay. Do you think they have a business being there in the first place?
no.
Braineack is offline  


Quick Reply: The Current Events, News, and Politics Thread



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:32 AM.