RIAA gone wild
So someone in another country makes a scuba video and adds some music. And we get the above message. (click the vid to see message) So what does the RIAA want? US to pay to watch the video? The person who made the video to pay? Is this supposed to strike fear in our hearts so we don't pirate music? |
What if I fart a song that RIAA owns right to?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 756131)
What if I fart a song that RIAA owns right to?
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 756130)
So what does the RIAA want? (...) The person who made the video to pay?
Fair Use covers a lot of ground, however it does not extend to appropriating an entire song (or a significant portion thereof) and using it as background music in a video of your own making. In reality, the record company does not actually care about someone using their music in a youtube video- that usage, in isolation, is harmless and inconsequential. The problem is that if they do not react to such uses, then they will have set precedent for failing to defend their copyright, and thus become vulnerable to more serious infringements. The courts have actually ruled against IP holders in the past who knowingly failed to defend their copyrights against minor infringements when a major infringement took place. |
I'd better destroy all those mixed tapes I made off the radio when I was in high school.
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Music plays fine, no message displayed. Wtf?
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You are outside the US, or RIAA "jurisdiction".
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Even though I have seen said message hundreds of times in several youtube vids...go figure. In the mean time, I can't use Spotify or Google Music...fuck the RIAA, Napster gooood.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 756148)
Fair Use covers a lot of ground, however it does not extend to appropriating an entire song (or a significant portion thereof) and using it as background music in a video of your own making.
The problem is that if they do not react to such uses, then they will have set precedent for failing to defend their copyright, and thus become vulnerable to more serious infringements. Is that "knowingly failed to enforce" thing a real law anyway, or just a legal court precedent? (which is another crock) |
quick someone sing happy birthday in a restaurant
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 756262)
Assuming for the moment that "copyrights" and "IP" are real property, ;) the Jurassic laws needs to be re-written for the 21st century.
While some people may not realize this, the music industry as a whole has actually gone to great lengths (and conceded to many compromises) to make the licensing of music relatively simple and streamlined. In the US, there are two major clearinghouses, ASCAP and BMI (both of which are non-profit agencies) where you may go to license copyrighted works for damn near any use, and it's a very simple process. While radio stations are obviously their single biggest customers, they serve all media-related needs, from Hollywood to websites to athletic teams to schools to (...). They even have special, ultra-cheap license agreements for churches and other non-profit agencies. While I agree that the RIAA are a bunch of fascist assholes, they are not the only face of the entertainment industry. They just get the majority of the bad press (which is ironic, if you think about it.) Is that "knowingly failed to enforce" thing a real law anyway, or just a legal court precedent? (which is another crock) |
Yup, Stare Decisis was what I was thinking of.
For starters, come up with a scheme so a copyright holder can declare something like "we will not enforce copyright on youtube vids but it doesn't invalidate my copyright". |
I'm in the US and see no message, I win.
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same here, but the music sucks and should be banned by the RIAA.
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Check the sig.
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Fuck the police!
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Uh oh, now the RIAA is gonna beat down your door!
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 756480)
For starters, come up with a scheme so a copyright holder can declare something like "we will not enforce copyright on youtube vids but it doesn't invalidate my copyright".
Copyright holders are free to release their works for certain specified uses without compromising their protection against other infringements, and these uses need not be non-commercial. Probably the most well-recognized example of this in the computer industry is GPL, the Gnu Public License. Sometimes refereed to as a "copyleft", the GPL is actually a method by which a copyright holder can make their product freely available for certain specified uses under certain specified conditions, without compromising the basic copyright or their ability to enforce it in the future. In fact, the exact text of the GPL is itself copyrighted, even though the owner of the copyright (the Free Software Foundation) specifically permits that it be freely distributed. Creative Commons is another license (actually a whole set of licenses) which are available to copyright holders (again, free of charge) to allow and disallow all sorts of specific things. For example, you might allow non-commercial redistribution but prohibit modification or commercial redistribution. Or you might allow modification and redistribution, commercial or noncommercial, so long as the modified / redistributed work attributes credit to the original author and also carries the same license. You can read all about the Creative Commons licenses here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ "That's fine and well for a bunch of hippies doing a stage show, but not applicable to the "real" music industry," you might say. Not at all. It is, in fact, increasingly common for "real" bands (those signed under commercial labels) to release certain tracks from new albums "for free" under various social-media sites. This practice has been going on for longer than FaceBook and MySpace have existed. Hell, back in the 90's I can remember some band (Weezer? The Apples in Stereo? Somebody like that) which was releasing tracks for free download via an FTP server. The law isn't broken. You (people who want to embed music in their Youtube videos) simply need to lobby the copyright holders to allow it. |
So why don't they do that for youtube?
Also, why block the whole vid intead of just blocking the sound? |
Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 756680)
So why don't they do that for youtube?
Also, why block the whole vid intead of just blocking the sound? |
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