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pdexta 03-04-2011 07:41 PM

Seizing Skylines
 
Thought you guys might enjoy this article. Craziness, I swear someone is going to get shot over this.

http://ca.jalopnik.com/5775509/feds-...skyline-owners

golftdibrad 03-04-2011 10:29 PM

the feds WOULD NOT get that car if it was me. I'd cut in in half before i let them flatbed my baby away.

miatamania 03-04-2011 11:53 PM

You know, if they gave the cars registrations and let them be titled...it is a bit out of their bounds to go "ooops, sorry, we are now taking your car because some agency 5 years ago dropped the ball"

pusha 03-05-2011 03:13 AM

Couldn't it be as simple as pulling the plate off of it? I know they're legal for off road use.

MD323 03-05-2011 03:45 AM

i wonder if Japtrix is hiding their skyline in a bunker right now...

chicksdigmiatas 03-05-2011 04:33 PM

I would hide mine too. Just out of principal. That is some commie shit. I understand the, seizing them when they come in. But if they are tagged legally and deemed safe by our people, the here legally.

pdexta 03-05-2011 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Pusha (Post 697540)
Couldn't it be as simple as pulling the plate off of it? I know they're legal for off road use.

That's the main thing that gets me. It's one thing for the government to suddenly decide they are not legal for street use. It's a whole different thing for the government to suddenly decide that they can come to your house and seize anything that isn't street legal. They're gonna be stealing little kid's go-carts next.

miatamike203 03-05-2011 06:37 PM

You guys might like to read this.

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/bre...ne-owners.html

Torkel 03-06-2011 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 697706)
That's the main thing that gets me. It's one thing for the government to suddenly decide they are not legal for street use. It's a whole different thing for the government to suddenly decide that they can come to your house and seize anything that isn't street legal. They're gonna be stealing little kid's go-carts next.

The problem must be that they are considered a contraband = a product illegally importad into the country and therefore not even legal to obtain. Still, there must be better (many many better) ways to spend your tax dollars.

hustler 03-06-2011 06:41 PM

Law enforcement agencies love this shit. They pick a random, obscure law, then enforce it. These guys literally have nothing better to do with their time considering an obscene amount were hired under the Republican White House, and now Hussein decided not to enforce anything with ICE because it might cost him votes from brown people, so these guys have nothing better to do with their time than harass you and I.

You, I, and every car enthusiest in this country should be afraid of a nationwide push from environmental authoritarians who push for bill that emissions test old cars (like our Miatas) against modern standards of electric toasters on wheels. I suspect that one day the EPA/NHTSA will come looking for our cars too.

MD323 03-06-2011 07:42 PM

I see a ban on aftermarket parts more likely, instantly cops have a reason to search your car and invade your privacy just because your muffler looks funny.

They already pull that in maryland, had my 323 searched a few times for "tampering with emissions equipment"

hustler 03-06-2011 09:58 PM

Actually, just about every year California puts a state bill to a vote to change emissions testing on old vehicles and or scratching registration on old cars with a mileage stipulation.

Doppelgänger 03-06-2011 10:09 PM

Gotta love the Department of Homeland Security.....letting terrorists onto planes, people steal your shit in the airport...but we'll fucking hunt down a few dozen Nissan Skylines! While pieces of shit those people are...even the worthless field fucks that are sent to collect the cars.

hustler 03-07-2011 08:05 AM

I wonder what costs the American tax payer more money and more security, Japanese Skylines or illegal aliens using social services?

Stein 03-07-2011 08:44 AM

If they put this much time, money and effort into finding and deporting illegal aliens, I would be happy.

Braineack 03-07-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 697706)
That's the main thing that gets me. It's one thing for the government to suddenly decide they are not legal for street use. It's a whole different thing for the government to suddenly decide that they can come to your house and seize anything that isn't street legal. They're gonna be stealing little kid's go-carts next.

This. Overstepping authority. Wait till the gov't decides that we are no longer entitled to private property and does this to all our possessions...

Braineack 03-07-2011 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 698145)
Gotta love the Department of Homeland Security.....letting terrorists onto planes, people steal your shit in the airport...but we'll fucking hunt down a few dozen Nissan Skylines! While pieces of shit those people are...even the worthless field fucks that are sent to collect the cars.



here's a good read for you:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/33798...receipts-ring/

jacob300zx 03-07-2011 09:59 AM

This is the future of America.

pusha 03-07-2011 11:49 AM

There ain't nothing wrong wit a Corvette!!!!!!

Doppelgänger 03-07-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 698271)

...and people wonder why people hate the government and call those who want to "take them out" crazy. No, the crazy ones are the ones who think everything is all fine and dandy and that the government only does things that help the people in a good way. I'm sure if you were to tell people "by the way, Homeland Security is hunting down and impounding cars", they would be in denial and probably tell you that the DHS is meant to fight terrorists. Yup....Skylines are terrorists in disguise....that's the obvious thing we're missing here.

Sean 03-07-2011 12:13 PM

I would roll it out in the driveway and light it on fire before they took it. Or completely disassemble it and they can take the frame all other parts would be gone.

Braineack 03-07-2011 12:16 PM

DHS is dealing with pedobear now... lol

Doppelgänger 03-07-2011 12:24 PM

Light it on fire with the DHS agents inside.


(I know this sounds "immature", but seriously...think about all the effort going into one frigging car that one person has worked so hard to get...then think of all the illegals that come here, get away with murder and are handed money on a silver platter. DHS is a joke that was contructed to hush the Ameican people after 911 but was really setup to waste money and resources.)

Sean 03-07-2011 12:25 PM

hell yea or wait until its on their truck then let it burn lol.

rider384 03-07-2011 12:27 PM

As soon as any car except "electric toasters on wheels" become illegal, I am moving to Canada.

chicksdigmiatas 03-07-2011 07:11 PM

Honestly, I am with you, I think just taking every damn part off of it and giving them the frame would be best. Then you can get mad McGruber and weld your skyline onto some poor unsuspecting 240. Win. I honestly think this is a huge waste of government money. The department of homeland security is a useless organization that needs to be disbanded, along with the TSA. Glad to see our national debt is being put into good use.

JasonC SBB 03-07-2011 07:23 PM

There is a term for this.

TYRANNY VIA ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.

I know someone who got a "you gotta take it to a referee" ticket for a CARB-LEGAL s/c kit for his Focus, just because the cop didn't believe him that it was all legit. It passed, but he still had to pay the $600 fee.

A bureaucracy decides you are guilty, until you prove your innocence, AT YOUR EXPENSE. The IRS for example, operates this way.

This is the thing that erodes the freedom of the average schmoe the most in this country. Not the Patriot Act (though I hate it), not the "free speech zones".

mcarp22 03-07-2011 08:17 PM

So if they deported illegal aliens using impounded contraband skylines, would you guys be cool with it?

hustler 03-07-2011 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by mcarp22 (Post 698610)
So if they deported illegal aliens using impounded contraband skylines, would you guys be cool with it?

No, because the EPA and NHTSA approved the import and it was vetted through their process...a bullshit process put forth by socialist, authoritarian environmentalist and baby-Naders to protect people from themselves who never requested this over-the-top protection. So no

JasonC SBB 03-07-2011 08:45 PM

The "illegals issue" pales in comparison to the coming DEBT BOMB.

Re: Skylines - the discussion should be more fundamental than "legalize skylines and some other cars"; it should be more like "what is the legitimate purpose of government?"

mcarp22 03-07-2011 08:46 PM

Joke failed this time :(

JasonC SBB 03-07-2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 698615)
No, because the EPA and NHTSA approved the import and it was vetted through their process...a bullshit process put forth by socialist, authoritarian environmentalist and baby-Naders to protect people from themselves who never requested this over-the-top protection. So no

The correct term is STATIST, not "Socialist".

STATISTS believe that the gov't should rule over the individual. Socialists are a type of statist, that believes in re-distribution of wealth.

The question then is, where does the legitimacy of gov't come from?

Fundamentally, statists believe that the gov't knows better than the rest of us.

Social Democrats believe that the legitimacy comes from popular vote (e.g. 51% of the population think the speed limits should be 65 mph).

Statists can fully support one law, and be enraged by another. They all want the laws to "be a certain way", instead of "leave everyone the fuck alone". Statists all want to impose their will on others.


mcarp22, the joke was pretty funny, but my post is in reference to the link wherein the Skyline guy refers to the "illegals" issue.

miatamike203 03-07-2011 08:56 PM

I have been saying it for a good amount of time that there is going to be another revaluation in this country. The more years that pass the more it seams that it will be a reality one day.

JasonC SBB 03-07-2011 10:23 PM

I hope the revaluation/revolution will be at the ballot box.

The Fed Gov WILL go insolvent - it's a question of when and how.
The debt + unfunded liabilities for the next 30 years, per taxpayer, is > $1 Million each. Unpayable. The only way out is insolvency and default.

I hope that the end result is de-centralization of power and invocation of the 10th Amendment.

golftdibrad 03-09-2011 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 698583)
There is a term for this.

TYRANNY VIA ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.

CFR. its INSANE to read.


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 698622)
The "illegals issue" pales in comparison to the coming DEBT BOMB.

Re: Skylines - the discussion should be more fundamental than "legalize skylines and some other cars"; it should be more like "what is the legitimate purpose of government?"

yup, and its not to micromanage my life.


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 698662)
I hope the revaluation/revolution will be at the ballot box.

The Fed Gov WILL go insolvent - it's a question of when and how.
The debt + unfunded liabilities for the next 30 years, per taxpayer, is > $1 Million each. Unpayable. The only way out is insolvency and default.

I hope that the end result is de-centralization of power and invocation of the 10th Amendment.

I think it will come when the printing presses really fire up and we get some inflation. I think we are seeing it a little now with gas, but IMHO the wall street guys are using the middle east as an excuse to cover up the fact that a dolor is not worth crap anymore.

gearhead_318 03-18-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 698379)
... Yup....Skylines are terrorists in disguise....that's the obvious thing we're missing here.

Don't say that, Glenn Beck might run with it and put it on his "chalkboard of batshit crazy ideas."
--> http://skinnymojo.com/media/beckBoard.html <--
I'm gonna work on one but I'm feelin' lazy now, so maybe somebody else will come up with a nonsensical good reason why Skylines are linked to radical islamic/gay/socialist/terrorist/kittens of doom.

chicksdigmiatas 03-20-2011 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 698615)
No, because the EPA and NHTSA approved the import and it was vetted through their process...a bullshit process put forth by socialist, authoritarian environmentalist and baby-Naders to protect people from themselves who never requested this over-the-top protection. So no

So when is TX breaking away again? If it in fact does such.... I will probably renounce my TN citizenship.... although, we <3 guns and freedom there too.

soflarick 03-22-2011 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 698395)
Light it on fire with the DHS agents inside.


(I know this sounds "immature", but seriously...think about all the effort going into one frigging car that one person has worked so hard to get...then think of all the illegals that come here, get away with murder and are handed money on a silver platter. DHS is a joke that was contructed to hush the Ameican people after 911 but was really setup to waste money and resources.)

WTF clown. Seriously!? This is how far this forum has fallen, advocating the death of a law enforcement officer? What the heck is wrong with you.

It's not the field agent doing the job he/she was hired to do, it's the political machine above them pushing the buttons.


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