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JasonC SBB 05-14-2012 12:07 PM

TSA Conducting Random Searches on US Highways
 


Deficits be damned.

Faeflora 05-14-2012 01:39 PM

Wow, what fukkn moronic bullshi.

Terrorists on the highway...

knowing the government, this inspection shiz is only gonna get muchhhhh bigger

puke

hustler 05-14-2012 02:28 PM

This is another great opportunity to create fines and arrests.
Greg Giraldo discussed this @ 2:40
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JasonC SBB 05-14-2012 03:31 PM

fixed


sixshooter 05-14-2012 04:43 PM

Yes sir, we at the government would like to look in your vehicle with no probable cause.

I guess this is just bullsquat:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

hustler 05-14-2012 05:47 PM

Clearly a lot of people on this forum have something to hide from the government or you wouldn't care about this.

shuiend 05-14-2012 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 877577)
Clearly a lot of people on this forum have something to hide from the government or you wouldn't care about this.

I have nothing to hide. I just pop my illegal Viagra right before I get searched so there is nothing to find.

JasonC SBB 05-14-2012 05:54 PM

Newscaster points out that McVeigh was caught by being pulled over for no plates.

Um, that didn't need the massive TSA bureaucracy nor the Patriot Act.

Godless Commie 05-14-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 877581)
Newscaster points out that McVeigh was caught by being pulled over for no plates.

Um, that didn't need the massive TSA bureaucracy nor the Patriot Act.

Wasn't McVeigh in custody before he was released by those same idiots who happened to "catch" him again out of sheer luck?

There's also that infamous Unabomber case.. Policework proved fruitless and futile till his brother turned him in.

Then there's Ruby Ridge...

hustler 05-14-2012 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 877581)
Newscaster points out that McVeigh was caught by being pulled over for no plates.

Um, that didn't need the massive TSA bureaucracy nor the Patriot Act.

DON'T FORGET THAT JEFFREY DAHMER DROVE CARS RIGHT BEFORE HE ATE TRAYVON MARTIN!!!!lc

rleete 05-14-2012 09:30 PM

You're giggling now, aren't you?

hustler 05-14-2012 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 877660)
You're giggling now, aren't you?

Its a viable analogy. Tim McVay's ability to obtain a license and vehicle has little to do with terrorism enforcement.

JasonC SBB 05-14-2012 10:37 PM

Bureaucracies start out with some given mission.
Then they get mission creep.
And then the motivation of the bureaucrats is to grow the bureaucracy.

Here's the Iron Law of Bureaucracy


Some bureaucrat will enforce a written rule in such a way as to make the rule and the bureaucracy seem either ridiculous, tyrannical, or both.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north913.html


North's law of bureaucratic expansion:
Any outrageous interpretation of a bureaucratic rule, if widely resisted by the public, will lead to an increased appropriation for the bureaucracy within two fiscal years.

There is an exception.
If the enforcement of the interpretation requires major expenditures for new equipment, the process will take only one fiscal year.


JasonC SBB 05-14-2012 10:39 PM

More from the above. It was written when the naked body scanners were being pushed.


The new scanners are expensive. Some firm is making a bundle of money by supplying them to the TSA. It is clear – transparent, even – that this technology is coming to an airport near you.

It is fun to imagine that the TSA screeners get their jollies by subjecting people to the process. This is unlikely. Most employees in a bureaucracy want to decrease the number of tasks they are required to perform. Like all of us, the want more for less. Adding a step is not in their self-interest.

On the other hand, it is in the self-interest of their supervisor. Now we come to another law of bureaucracy, an extension of Parkinson's famous law: "Work expands so as to fill the time allotted for its completion." Professor Parkinson had another law, less known but more rigorous: promotions take place when a bureaucrat increases the number of employees subordinate to him. Parkinson worked out the numbers in the 1950s. It was no joke. There is a large body of academic articles devoted to this rule. Here is a recent example.


The supervisors want these scanners. They want employees with their sanitary gloves. These people must be trained to do these jobs. They must be moved out of the line. This means the supervisor will be able to call for additional staff. His budget will rise.

The official goal of the scanners is to discover ever-more concealable explosives.

I rue the day when a terrorist on a plane blows it up by inserting a powerful explosive into a large orifice.

Talk about bin Laden winning the war! If the see-through scanners are there to detect explosive underwear, think of the ---- bomb's impact on airport security procedures.

"No," you think to yourself. "It could not go that far." You are ignoring Law #1:
Some bureaucrat will enforce a written rule in such a way as to make the rule and the bureaucracy seem either ridiculous, tyrannical, or both.

I assume that there are terrorists out there who think up low-tech weapons, not for terrorizing the populace, but rather for the annoyance factor. It give TSA an opportunity to tighten the screws.

Osama: "Hey, guys. I've got one. What about some PETN in a condom?"

Massam: "Where should Allah's Devoted One hide it?"

Osama: "Where the sun don't shine."

Ayman: "Now that's really good. Can you imagine what the TSA will do with that one?"

Abu: "Assume the position!"

Saif: "Toward the East!"

Osama: "It's time to invest in latex gloves."


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