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Fathom55 04-03-2013 08:07 PM

Urging Banks to Make Home Loans to Poor Credit
 
WaPo article
I work as a large commercial lender for a bank. This is such a bad idea.

18psi 04-03-2013 08:23 PM

Lets recreate the bubble that just burst.

Don't trip, my boy Obama got dat Obama money to bail us out dawgg

buffon01 04-03-2013 09:50 PM

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elesjuan 04-03-2013 10:49 PM

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F-it. Do it. Seriously. Make homes cheaper for me to buy then sell for profit!

Braineack 04-04-2013 08:40 AM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/current-e...08/#post997020

hustler 04-04-2013 09:24 AM

It's too bad there is no previous experience with this kind of thing to know how it will work out.

18psi 04-04-2013 10:52 AM

brb guys bout to start cc ballin

thenuge26 04-04-2013 01:24 PM

Does it sound stupid? Yes.


Did I get turned down for <$100k loans with a >700 credit rating? Also yes.

Braineack 04-04-2013 01:26 PM

do you have collateral?

thenuge26 04-04-2013 01:30 PM

Does anyone buying their first house?

Braineack 04-04-2013 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 997629)
Does anyone buying their first house?

why would you take out a personal loan to buy a house?

fooger03 04-04-2013 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 997408)
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F-it. Do it. Seriously. Make homes cheaper for me to buy then sell for profit!

In the short term, this will make homes *more* expensive.

In the long term, this will cause the bottom to fall out of the housing market AGAIN, before slowly beginning to return to equilibrium.

So your plan is not to wait until creditors start giving loans to errebody and buy a bunch of houses - your plan is to start saving money now, Sell your house for much profit just before the housing market peaks, then rent for 3 years as loans default, the housing market falls to pieces, and prices drop through the floor - then buy the shit out of some short sales and foreclosures with cash and rent them for 5 years until the market comes back around.

fooger03 04-04-2013 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 997629)
Does anyone buying their first house?

"The house" is collateral.....

"The large down payment" or "PMI" is insurance against a decline in value of the collateral

"Homeowners insurance" is insurance against catastrophic damage to the banks collateral

An "Escrow account" is insurance against you being a dumbass and not paying up your Homeowner's Insurance premiums or property tax.

thenuge26 04-04-2013 02:22 PM

Ah, I thought he meant something other than "the house".

And yeah I had cash for a 15% down payment. Still needed help from a non-profit that helps people with bad credit to even get pre-approved.

Hell I didn't even have a choice with the house I bought. I HAD to buy it cash because nobody would even talk to me about a loan for a $40k house. I could walk up to any car dealership in the country and walk away with a $40k car.

Fathom55 04-04-2013 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 997622)
Does it sound stupid? Yes.


Did I get turned down for <$100k loans with a >700 credit rating? Also yes.

There's a lot more to the picture than a simple credit score. Credit scores do not equate to or solely dictate the credit worthiness of a given transaction or loan. Credit scores are backwards looking evaluations of a person's borrowing habits and repayment fidelity.

Loans, and especially in more recent times mortgage loans, are determined based on the value of collateral, amount of downpayment, cushion on the Borrower's ability to service debt, and the given bank's existing portfolio weight and condition of similar type loans. A lot of banks got burned and are still being dragged down by underwater or fully defaulted mortgage portfolios. This makes them very reluctant to make anything but the very safest mortgage loans in the current market.

A local mortgage broker can put his or her finger on the banks in your area that would be willing to do a consumer mortgage loan with your credit metrics.

Braineack 04-04-2013 02:36 PM

this is what FHA is for.

shuiend 04-04-2013 02:45 PM

I am actually getting charged an extra .25 interest for my mortgage loan being under 100k. Their reason for that is because they will make less money off interest on the house.

Fathom55 04-04-2013 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 997676)
I am actually getting charged an extra .25 interest for my mortgage loan being under 100k. Their reason for that is because they will make less money off interest on the house.

Yep, some banks do that. It's a backwards economy of scale. They incur the same fixed cost for each mortgage regardless of the size. Inefficient/top heavy banks can't maintain their return on assets unless they juice the interest rate on smaller loans...

Scrappy Jack 04-04-2013 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Fathom55 (Post 997668)
A lot of banks got burned and are still being dragged down by underwater or fully defaulted mortgage portfolios. This makes them very reluctant to make anything but the very safest mortgage loans in the current market.

Zombie bank problems.



Kidding aside, your points are very valid (which you would expect given your background).

pdexta 05-04-2013 07:24 AM

I heard an ad a few days ago, "Refinance your house for up to 150% of the value!" It's like the government is trying to get us right back into the same situation we've been trying to dig ourselves out of the last ~5 years. I guess I should jump on the opportunity to snag the $200k and never make a payment on it.


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