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Braineack 04-23-2014 02:42 PM

Weed is now legal in OH!!!!
 
Ohio Out-of-State Gay Marriage Recognition Ban Is Overturned (1) - Businessweek


The Court finds that those portions of Ohio Const. Art. XV, § 11, Ohio
Rev. Code § 3101.01(C), and any other provisions of the Ohio Revised
Code that may be relied on to deny legal recognition to the marriages of
same-sex couples validly entered in other jurisdictions, violate rights
secured by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution in
that same-sex couples married in jurisdictions where same-sex marriage is
lawful, who seek to have their out-of-state marriages recognized and
accepted as legal in Ohio and the enjoy the rights, protections, and benefits
of marriage provided to heterosexual married couples under Ohio law, are
denied significant liberty interests and fundamental rights without due
process of law and in violation of their right to equal protection.
I wonder how they feel about TX gun laws in OH as well...

Sparetire 04-23-2014 04:27 PM

LOL.

I am for homosexuals being able to marry personally. I don't give two shits what religion has to say on the matter. I also don't give two shits what a supposed majority thinks other people ought to be able to do. If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry someone from your gender.

But what legalistic BS. Let me see if I understand: Say I have the right to drive in reverse everywhere I go in oh, I don't know, Maryland. I then, by choice, move to Idaho. In Idaho going down the highway in reverse is not legal. But because I got my license in MD, they have to allow me to drive in reverse on the freeway. Otherwise I am being denied my rights.

I think I will run into a granite block and then sue the owner because it denied me my rights in that space.

Shit like this is why people have no faith in our supposed leaders. Even when we agree with the goal they are still full of it.

Braineack 04-24-2014 08:18 AM

This thread isn't about the gays--It's about the OH Court ruling that laws of other states supersedes laws/constitution of its own.

The basically nullified every one of their own laws at the same time enacting every other state law.

festersays 04-24-2014 08:30 AM

Ohio's way of solving a problem was to go ahead and put a bandaid on it. Nevertheless I'm happy that people can be recognized here now though. I know a few ladies that got married in Vegas not too long ago that probably couldn't be happier.

Braineack 04-24-2014 08:37 AM

I hope people challenge paying taxes in OH because in DE they don't have sales tax and that's a violation of the 14th amendment.

thirdgen 04-24-2014 08:42 AM

So high the title got misspelled.

Braineack 04-24-2014 08:47 AM

I'm in OH, smoking weed, driving 85mph, concealed carrying, not paying taxes, flexing my 14th amendment rights!

muoto 04-24-2014 08:48 AM

legalize gay weed!

nitrodann 04-24-2014 08:55 AM

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thirdgen 04-24-2014 09:01 AM

I gotta crawl out of the hole in the ground where I live in...
Are you telling me that there are states where 85mph is the speed limit?
I'm still confused at how you can cross pollenate weed if both plants are male.

Braineack 04-24-2014 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1124844)
Are you telling me that there are states where 85mph is the speed limit?

yes (tx is one), there are some states with roads without speed limits.

But if TX has a law that says highways in rural areas have a limit of 85mph, then that supersedes OH's law that highways have a speed limit of 50/65/70mph (whatever it is).

Braineack 04-24-2014 11:36 AM

meanwhile in Red states:

Ariz. Supreme Court: Marijuana traces in the system aren’t enough for DUI charges

thirdgen 04-24-2014 11:49 AM

So pretty much, I could leave the bar after drinking 3 bud light platinums out of some guys butthole (that's how bud light platinum gets drank cause that's how gay it is)...and get a DUI, but I could smoke an 1/8th ounce of weed, be high as a kite, and not get a DUI??

festersays 04-24-2014 11:52 AM

That's been my only beef ever with weed becoming legal. There's no way for authorities to test for a DUI. You could be high as a kite and they can't really do a whole lot.

Braineack 04-24-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1124906)
So pretty much, I could leave the bar after drinking 3 bud light platinums out of some guys butthole (that's how bud light platinum gets drank cause that's how gay it is)...and get a DUI, but I could smoke an 1/8th ounce of weed, be high as a kite, and not get a DUI??

no. did you read?

you can't be charged with a DUI, based on a blood test for thc, without any other impairments.

a dude got pulled over for speeding, and like a dumbass what he said was used against him and he admitted he smoked up the day before, and then was charged with a DUI because he had inactive traces of pot in his system.

AZ Court ruled, that the officer had no reason to charge him with a DUI because he wasn't impaired--the cop was just creating crime, like they love to do.

Joe Perez 04-24-2014 03:03 PM

It is incorrect to suppose that this ruling serves as precedent to claim that marijuana is now legal in Ohio. At best, we can now say that Ohio cannot prosecute any person for possessing and consuming marijuana while visiting Washington or Colorado.

Likewise, Ohio is still free to not issue marriage certificates to same-sex couples within its own borders.


Or, nothing has changed, except that it's been clarified that the Ohio legislature may not selectively violate the US Constitution merely because they disagree with the manner in which the Supreme Court or other State Supreme Courts interpret portions of it.

Braineack 04-24-2014 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1124998)
At best, we can now say that Ohio cannot prosecute any person for possessing and consuming marijuana while visiting Washington or Colorado.

that was always the case as well...


Ohio legislature may not selectively violate the US Constitution merely because they disagree with the manner in which the Supreme Court or other State Supreme Courts interpret portions of it.
clarify. How are they selectively violating the 14th amendment?

But, if the ruling says OH must recognize married coupled from other states, despite OH's own laws outlawing these certain marriages not not recognizing them (10th amendment), how can any OH law that abridges the privileges granted in another state be valid? Does this ruling not then violate the 14th amendment itself by granting privileges to others and not its own citizens?

Is min wage not $12 an hour in San Francisco? Would it not be a selective violation to deny anyone in OH the same min. wage as a resident of SF would get?

What about paying taxes in OH? Is it not a violation of the 14th amendment to require some citizens to pay greater taxes based on an arbitrary income level not violate equal protection under the law?

does not every law violate the 14th amendment?

Joe Perez 04-24-2014 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1125001)
that was always the case as well...

Precisely. Hence the closing statement that "Or, nothing has changed..."

The Ohio Legislature enacted a law that was unconstitutional, just like if they'd tried to criminalize the possession of marijuana in another state. The court said "No, you can't do that." This does not change the fact that marijuana is still illegal in Ohio.

Braineack 04-24-2014 03:23 PM

Well someone should take that to the OH court, because that violates the rights of CO and Washington residents that want equal protection under their own state's law when they move to OH.

Joe Perez 04-24-2014 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1125005)
Well someone should take that to the OH court, because that violates the rights of CO and Washington residents that want equal protection under their own state's law when they move to OH.

Not at all. When we move to (or visit) another state, we agree to be bound by that state's laws while we are there.

For instance, here in New York, the state-wide speed limit is 55 MPH. Back in California, there were many roads with speed limits of 65 MPH. New York is not violating my constitutional rights by having a different speed limit than California.

And even though congress repealed the 18th Amendment, individual towns and counties in the bible-belt states are still free to prohibit the sale of alcohol within their borders, even though neighboring communities may permit it.

Read Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution. It says that states are required to recognize the judgements and rulings of other states, not that they are required to adopt them as their own.


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