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Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1106850)

I think even drug testing for minimum wage jobs is stupid. If they work sober and it doesn't impact their job, who cares? What right does an employer (even the state or federal governments) have to say what I can or cannot do while I am not on the job?

You're okay with teachers or school bus drivers doing drugs in their "off the clock" time?

Hmm...

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Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1106850)

What right does an employer (even the state or federal governments) have to say what I can or cannot do while I am not on the job?

every right in the world. An employer should have the right to hire and fire employees for ANY reason whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1106860)

You're okay with teachers or school bus drivers doing drugs in their "off the clock" time?

Hmm...

Yes I am. I don't get mad at them if they drink off the clock.

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 1106828)

If I have to take a drug test to work to pay for the welfare then they have to take a drug test to get the money that I had to take a drug test to provide.

So what if my job does not drug test and I also pay into welfare. Just because your job requires you to do something does not mean all jobs do. So you cannot use that analogy to make your point. It is the same as me saying that since I have to have specific certifications to hold my job, you should have to have them also to get welfare. That makes absolutely no sense.

I like the point someone made when Florida first brought this up.

If they want to drug test people getting welfare, first they have to drug test the representatives trying to pass that law. Funny enough none of them went for it...

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Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1106873)

Well Cocaine is out of your system in 72 hours. So I guess we need to check the representatives Saturday and Sunday morning.

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Originally Posted by BlackBandit (Post 1106815)

Well isn't a warranty on a vehicle the same concept? Follow the rules on owning your car under warranty and still receive the benefits of the company taken care of the car. Void the warranty with modding etc. And you lose the warranty. Welfare is a program to help you out. Take advantage of it you should be on a probationary term. Fail more then 3 times I believe you should lose your privilege.

Also wasn't there an idea out there for wic checks to be used at restaurants? I am highly against this.

You know, I saw that same line of reasoning used to justify the ACA and its bunk. "We require car insurance, so what's so bad about requiring health insurance?"

No, vehicle warranties are not the same as welfare. Moving on.

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Originally Posted by Tekel (Post 1106830)

Foodstamps need to be like WIC. You get a coupon for fruit, vegetables, bread, lunch meat etc. Not so your kid and his friends can get overpriced snacks at a gas station. EBT is awful or you blow your $600/month on frozen pizzas and soda. Because now with this healthcare, we are paying for you to kill yourself and make you better.

And if there is literally no decent access to a grocery? Ever seen a single mom trying to juggle groceries on the bus after work along with her kids?

Most people definitely need to stop eating out of gas stations (regardless of income) but one of the main issues for poor people is that getting to the damned grocery store can be expensive and time consuming, and a lot of people don't have the time and money to do it.

I think its total BS that we are in this position like pretty much all of you.

But something that costs more than it saves and pisses off enough people to vote in socialists is not a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Tekel (Post 1106830)

This exactly. A year or so ago I was in line behind a woman at Walmart with a cart full of shit, paying with EBT. Snack cakes, frozen pizzas, a bunch of other frozen things you microwave or deep fry, sodas. I literally did not see a single fresh, non processed item in her cart. Seems like her total was over $100. I wanted to punch this ---- in the face.

Why is kunt with a c censored?