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ryansmoneypit 07-11-2017 10:14 PM

Would anyone bet against Conor?
 
I'm not usually into this kiND of stuff, but the Floyd Maywethere vs. Conor Mcgregor fight has me kind of pumped. Like, my pee pee feels funny.

Anyone think the old guy can win? I say no way. Conor is going to knock his block. I think he knows he's going to lose, but the money is too good.

farpolemiddle 07-11-2017 11:05 PM

Zero chance. None. Floyd is going to beat the shit out of him.

ryansmoneypit 07-11-2017 11:12 PM

Are you for real? Mcgregor knows what it feels like to get hit, hard. Not sure Floyd does, or can take it.

farpolemiddle 07-11-2017 11:35 PM

Bookmark this. You will see.

mgeoffriau 07-12-2017 12:29 AM

Conor is tough enough (and Floyd old enough) that he won't get knocked out, but he's not going to touch Mayweather. I mean that literally, he might not land a punch.

z31maniac 07-12-2017 09:03 AM

It's a pure boxing match, right?

I don't think Mayweather is going to annihilate him or anything, but the only way I see Conor winning is if he somehow catches Floyd flat footed with a haymaker. Which is HIGHLY unlikely.

dr_boone 07-12-2017 09:09 AM

if it was MMA McGregor would win. But boxing it will be 100% Mayweather

shuiend 07-12-2017 09:31 AM

It is a boxing event. Mayweather is going to destroy Connor. Connor is in it because he will no longer have to work a day in his life after this fight. Mayweather won't get a KO but it will go all the rounds and he will be givin the win.

ryansmoneypit 07-12-2017 09:34 AM

Ehh, I don't think Floyd has been training much, he sure doesn't look like it anyway. ​​I know Mcgregor has the power to put him down , which I think is fairly rare for a 155 boxer. Plus the confidence he exudes, he's ready.

shuiend 07-12-2017 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1427158)
Ehh, I don't think Floyd has been training much, he sure doesn't look like it anyway. ​​I know Mcgregor has the power to put him down , which I think is fairly rare for a 155 boxer. Plus the confidence he exudes, he's ready.

Floyd does not have to train much. His whole life has been spent on punching and dodging. It is engrained into him. He has a 49-0 record BOXING against the best boxers over the last 20 years. If you think an MMA fighter who has never had a professional boxing match in his life is going to get into a boxing ring and have any sort of change against one of the greatest boxers alive, you are sadly mistaken. If Connor could kick or if it was a MMA match he would stand a much better chance, but in a BOXING ring he has 100% chance of loosing. Well except for winning a 50+million dollar pay check and never having to be punched in the face again.

concealer404 07-12-2017 09:51 AM

I don't even think Conor is the best boxer in the 145 or 155lb division in MMA. He's a GREAT MMA boxer.... but traditionally i don't think he's as sound (to be expected) and i don't think he's going to have the speed necessary.

Or the power, really... putting down dudes wearing MMA gloves is different from putting down dudes with huge pillows strapped to your hands.

ryansmoneypit 07-12-2017 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=concealer404;1427168

Or the power, really... putting down dudes wearing MMA gloves is different from putting down dudes with huge pillows strapped to your hands.[/QUOTE]

valid

aidandj 07-12-2017 11:08 AM

Boxing gloves actually do more damage than MMA gloves. They weigh more, and offer more hand protection, allowing for harder and more hits. This means punches can be thrown harder and cause more damage.

18psi 07-12-2017 11:16 AM

It's gonna get hyped like crazy, they're gonna rake in millions, then mayweather is gonna dance around the stage for several hours dodging all of mcgregors punches, land enough of his own boring ones to win by points, and everyone will go home with blue balls. Just like most (all?) of his other fights. He wins cause he knows how to play the game.

shuiend 07-12-2017 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1427197)
It's gonna get hyped like crazy, they're gonna rake in millions, then mayweather is gonna dance around the stage for several hours dodging all of mcgregors punches, land enough of his own boring ones to win by points, and everyone will go home with blue balls. Just like most (all?) of his other fights. He wins cause he knows how to play the game.

More or less this. Well that is if Connor can even go 12 rounds in a ring without passing out.

If I was Connor I would try my hardest to get some decent punches in in the first 2 rounds. Then come round 3 let Mayweather get the knock out. Then enjoy my short hospital trip that night with 50million dollars in my pocket and having 12 cute nurses in lingerie taking care of me.

ryansmoneypit 07-12-2017 11:43 AM

HAHAHAHAH^^^^^

I didnt consider the fact that Floyd might dance around untouched, or lightly. Im still not sure though, I think Conor is going to go in heavy right off the bat. I dont think he's going to allow Floyd to dance. That could be his down fall too...

Vashthestampede 07-12-2017 02:27 PM

I won on Conor back at UFC 205, so I'm looking forward to this one!!

Conor will destroy him!! Going to end 1st round by knockout, 100%.

shuiend 07-12-2017 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1427207)
HAHAHAHAH^^^^^

I didnt consider the fact that Floyd might dance around untouched, or lightly. Im still not sure though, I think Conor is going to go in heavy right off the bat. I dont think he's going to allow Floyd to dance. That could be his down fall too...


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 1427250)
I won on Conor back at UFC 205, so I'm looking forward to this one!!

Conor will destroy him!! Going to end 1st round by knockout, 100%.

You guys are funny. This is not even a competition. Connor is going to do jack shit to Floyd. Connor can't punch as hard as any pro boxer. They just don't train that way.

This is like saying Emilio could be put in a Nascar race and then beat Jeff Gordon or Richard Petty in a race. It just is not going to happen. They both can drive cars, but the years of training and what they are good at are completely different.

18psi 07-12-2017 05:17 PM

I think that's what most folks (including Conor) seem to be missing: two significantly different forms of fighting. Mayweather knows every single rule in boxing and knows how to exploit it to his benefit 100%. This isn't about raw power, if it was he would have been beat many times in the previous years by people that (IMO) were way more talented and stronger than him.

I strongly dislike mayweather. I really hope he gets knocked out. I find him boring. But the dude knows the game, and plays it flawlessly

If he hopped into the octagon, he would get embarrassed and wrecked within a few minutes.

aidandj 07-12-2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1427199)
More or less this. Well that is if Connor can even go 12 rounds in a ring without passing out.

If I was Connor I would try my hardest to get some decent punches in in the first 2 rounds. Then come round 3 let Mayweather get the knock out. Then enjoy my short hospital trip that night with 50million dollars in my pocket and having 12 cute nurses in lingerie taking care of me.

Wouldn't even have a trip to the hospital. Mayweather hasn't knocked someone out in 7 years. Dude doesn't have power, just skill.

mgeoffriau 07-12-2017 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1427298)
Mayweather hasn't knocked someone out in 7 years.

And the last one was Ortiz, where Ortiz wasn't even defending himself and it still took Mayweather two shots to take him down.

TNTUBA 07-12-2017 08:28 PM

Mayweather is the most accomplished boxer alive.....McGregor isn't a boxer at all and holds his hands at his waist.

This is a boxing match NOT a MMA match.

As much as I hate to admit it.....but Mayweather is gonna wear him out.

And saying things like "Yea but if it was an MMA fight" would be like saying "Yea but I could outrun a Top Fuel Dragster in a road race" They aren't really the same thing at all.

airbrush1 07-12-2017 10:55 PM

I'm in it for the hype, I'm not a Mayweather fan... I hate watching him be the best defensive boxer of all time while talking shit about being the best boxer of all time. I'd love to see Connor catch him sleeping, but I doubt it will happen, his only chance is an unorthodox style and Mayweather being lax in conditioning.

thirdgen 07-12-2017 11:49 PM

I hope it turns out like pulp fiction.

airbrush1 07-12-2017 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1427363)
I hope it turns out like pulp fiction.

with a guy in a gimp suit on fire?

thirdgen 07-13-2017 01:28 AM

No, where one of the 2 jump in a taxi not knowing they beat the opponent to death.
Then a Marcellus Wallace type character hunts them down for not taking the hit. Then yeah, maybe "come here mother fucker" will go down and cha chick "you don't under stand man" and yada yada yada...the rest will be history.
I just really want that suit...

Guardiola 07-13-2017 07:32 AM

The fight with Pac-Man was boring as hell. Mayweather has talent, but his fights are not that fun to watch. I will catch the highlight reel the day after.

ryansmoneypit 07-13-2017 09:28 AM

Mcgregor is going to whip his ass.

shuiend 07-13-2017 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1427428)
Mcgregor is going to whip his ass.

Based on what? Everyone who I have talked to about this fight that sides with Connor just say "ohh he is going to win", "he will knock out Floyd", but can't actually give any logical reason why that is going to happen in a boxing ring.

z31maniac 07-13-2017 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1427434)
Based on what? Everyone who I have talked to about this fight that sides with Connor just say "ohh he is going to win", "he will knock out Floyd", but can't actually give any logical reason why that is going to happen in a boxing ring.

Because MMA fanbois?

ryansmoneypit 07-13-2017 11:51 AM

Younger, faster, better, moar want. That's all I think he's got, all I think he needs.

All floys fans have is stats that have gone untested or challenged in 10 years.

concealer404 07-13-2017 11:54 AM

I don't think he's faster at all. He isn't even fast for a 145-155er in MMA. He's just unpredictable.

Guardiola 08-09-2017 03:00 PM

Thought was an interesting read: Wait. What? Floyd Mayweather breaks down the reasons Conor McGregor could (should?) upset him | MMAjunkie

TLDR:
“When you look at myself and Conor McGregor on paper, he’s taller, has a longer reach, he’s a bigger man from top to bottom,” Mayweather told Smith. “He’s a lot younger. I’ve been off a couple of years, and I’m in my 40s. So if you look at everything on paper, it leans toward Conor McGregor.”
...
But despite seeming to upgrade McGregor throughout, Mayweather still believes the fight is his.
“I didn’t say I couldn’t fight. I just said I’m not the same Floyd Mayweather I once was.”

ryansmoneypit 08-09-2017 04:10 PM

cant tell if Mayweather is already lining up excuses, or just trying to fuqu with Conor. Making yourself sound weak and vulnerable can be a good tactic if it gets the opponent to lighten up on training / expectations.

z31maniac 08-09-2017 09:17 PM

He's doing both.

greeenteeee 08-09-2017 10:32 PM

Like others, I hate his defensive style because it is boring. But, it IS the way to play the game.

That shoulder roll-- I just wonder why others haven't adapted it.

alienmiata1 08-10-2017 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1427434)
Based on what? Everyone who I have talked to about this fight that sides with Connor just say "ohh he is going to win", "he will knock out Floyd", but can't actually give any logical reason why that is going to happen in a boxing ring.

I think Conor has a pretty good chance to win the fight. First, he might get lucky and land a square punch. With his power Floyd could go out like a light. I don't think that will happen tho. Floyd has fought too many good fighters and never has been caught. I doubt a noob to the sport will be able to do it.
The second way I see Conor winning the fight is if Floyd throws it. If Floyd wins, he will never fight again. His income will dry up pretty quick once he isn't fighting. He can't do commentary and doesn't have the squeaky clean image to get many post career endorsements. However, if he loses the fight he will still get a huge payday for this fight. Then they will schedule atleast one rematch. If they play their cards right they may get 2 rematches. Both of which will be bigger pay days for each fighter than this first fight. Floyd likes money too much to pass up the opportunity. One loss for 3 paychecks. Conor would never fight MMA again, which I think is his plan seeing as he will never see $100,000,000 from an MMA fight.

It will be an interesting fight. It will show what is more important to Floyd. Money or legacy.

z31maniac 08-10-2017 12:55 AM

Maybe Mayweather will finally get a tutor for Hooked on Phonics?

Guardiola 08-10-2017 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by alienmiata1 (Post 1432921)
...if he loses the fight he will still get a huge payday for this fight. Then they will schedule atleast one rematch. If they play their cards right they may get 2 rematches. Both of which will be bigger pay days for each fighter than this first fight.

That is exactly what I got from the interview. Stay tuned for rematch date.
They are leaving so much money on the table if they don't.

aidandj 08-26-2017 08:52 PM

Anybody have a streaming link?

ryansmoneypit 08-26-2017 10:30 PM

No but I have money burning a hole in my pocket. Someone bet me.

farpolemiddle 08-27-2017 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1427094)
Are you for real? Mcgregor knows what it feels like to get hit, hard. Not sure Floyd does, or can take it.


like I said. But credit where it is due. He fought better than expected and gassed when expected

aidandj 08-27-2017 01:30 AM

Should have taken the bet with ryan

ryansmoneypit 08-27-2017 07:11 AM

Shit.

05pearl 08-27-2017 01:18 PM

lol

z31maniac 08-27-2017 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1427428)
Mcgregor is going to whip his ass.

Quoted for posterity.

Another MMA fanboi that doesn't understand boxing. Conor looked like the amateur that he is from the 1st round.

Floyd let Conor gas himself out, then worked him. I'm honestly surprised it wasn't stopped in the 9th. It was clear from the 8th he couldn't defend himself against arguably one of the greatest boxers of all time.

z31maniac 08-27-2017 06:29 PM

But he got his payday, but with heaping dose of shame for all his idiocy. No one that follows boxing thought he had a chance. That's why doctors even came out before the fight worrying for the Irishman's well being.

mgeoffriau 08-27-2017 06:51 PM

Yeah, early on my buddies were all excited about McGregor. I kept repeating two things:

1. Yes, McGregor absolutely won the first 3 rounds. He threw a lot more punches, landed a few even if they didn't do much damage, and generally was the aggressor.
2. Mayweather was quite happy to let McGregor win those rounds, and once he felt like the moment was right, it would become apparent just how huge the gap in skills really was.

Mayweather is just too much of a pro. I promise you, when McGregor put his hands behind his back and came forward a bit, Mayweather didn't even flinch. He didn't care. He had his plan, and he was never in any danger of losing.

thirdgen 08-27-2017 07:20 PM

I love this crap. Nobody wanted to say anything earlier, because the fight didn't happen yet and nobody can predict the future. Now that it's done everybody's like "oh Floyd Mayweather I knew from the start was going to beat his fucking ass". Oh really? If you guys were such fight club pros, then why didn't you put your money on it if you knew so damn well?

Savington 08-27-2017 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1436197)
I love this crap. Nobody wanted to say anything earlier, because the fight didn't happen yet and nobody can predict the future. Now that it's done everybody's like "oh Floyd Mayweather I knew from the start was going to beat his fucking ass". Oh really? If you guys were such fight club pros, then why didn't you put your money on it if you knew so damn well?

Are you illiterate?


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1427092)
Zero chance. None. Floyd is going to beat the shit out of him.


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1427103)
Conor is tough enough (and Floyd old enough) that he won't get knocked out, but he's not going to touch Mayweather. I mean that literally, he might not land a punch.


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1427148)
I don't think Mayweather is going to annihilate him or anything, but the only way I see Conor winning is if he somehow catches Floyd flat footed with a haymaker. Which is HIGHLY unlikely.


Originally Posted by dr_boone (Post 1427151)
if it was MMA McGregor would win. But boxing it will be 100% Mayweather


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1427157)
It is a boxing event. Mayweather is going to destroy Connor. Connor is in it because he will no longer have to work a day in his life after this fight. Mayweather won't get a KO but it will go all the rounds and he will be givin the win.


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1427168)
I don't even think Conor is the best boxer in the 145 or 155lb division in MMA. He's a GREAT MMA boxer.... but traditionally i don't think he's as sound (to be expected) and i don't think he's going to have the speed necessary.

Or the power, really... putting down dudes wearing MMA gloves is different from putting down dudes with huge pillows strapped to your hands.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1427197)
then mayweather is gonna dance around the stage for several hours dodging all of mcgregors punches, land enough of his own boring ones to win by points, and everyone will go home with blue balls.


Originally Posted by TNTUBA (Post 1427336)
As much as I hate to admit it.....but Mayweather is gonna wear him out.


Originally Posted by airbrush1 (Post 1427352)
I'd love to see Connor catch him sleeping, but I doubt it will happen, his only chance is an unorthodox style and Mayweather being lax in conditioning.


18psi 08-27-2017 08:06 PM

Reading is hard.

Much easier to spout clueless nonsense and ignore facts :)

*Edit: why won't it let me propcat spendingtons post? argh

mgeoffriau 08-27-2017 09:09 PM

Because we're in the politics subforum.

ryansmoneypit 08-27-2017 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1436184)
Quoted for posterity.

Another MMA fanboi that doesn't understand boxing. Conor looked like the amateur that he is from the 1st round.

Floyd let Conor gas himself out, then worked him. I'm honestly surprised it wasn't stopped in the 9th. It was clear from the 8th he couldn't defend himself against arguably one of the greatest boxers of all time.

1. Fuck you for calling me a fanboi, of any sort. I made it pretty clear from the very first post that I don't follow this stuff.
2. He did really well 1-3ish. So, not bad. Not a win, but not bad.

In the end I really think not only skill, but Floyd's experience. Let the young guy run dry.
If Mac didn't gas out, we might be having a different conversation right now. But he didn't.
​​​​so there's that.

​​​

farpolemiddle 08-27-2017 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1436197)
I love this crap. Nobody wanted to say anything earlier, because the fight didn't happen yet and nobody can predict the future. Now that it's done everybody's like "oh Floyd Mayweather I knew from the start was going to beat his fucking ass". Oh really? If you guys were such fight club pros, then why didn't you put your money on it if you knew so damn well?


And I did make $100.

viperormiata 08-27-2017 10:28 PM

GGG vs. Canelo anyone?


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