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Zeddriver 02-08-2016 06:50 PM

1.6 cast log manifold back on eBay
 
The elusive 1.6 log manifolds are back on eBay

http://www.ebay.ca/ulk/itm/230968860437

Monk 02-08-2016 06:53 PM

You just made some friends.

x_25 02-08-2016 07:01 PM

Came across those the other day. I figured someone would have posted already. Woops.

squeegee 02-09-2016 09:18 AM

t3/t4? Interesting. Maybe the log spools a big turbine well

shuiend 02-09-2016 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by squeegee (Post 1306040)
t3/t4? Interesting. Maybe the log spools a big turbine well

Dezeem has been running one for a good while. I have one on the way to me now that I will be doing some test fitting with.

18psi 02-09-2016 09:28 AM


6 sold within last 24 hours
lol

what once was considered reluctantly is now selling like hotcakes

shuiend 02-09-2016 09:34 AM

I am curious if these are the only 10 or so the one seller has, or if there are more in the pipe line. I know for sure that one of those sold was bought with long term thinking of reselling once they go back out of stock.

bahurd 02-12-2016 02:22 PM

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Thought I'd post these in case someone wants measurements or needs any. Other than some major burrs on the milled edges (surfaces are flat after deburring) things look ok. Funny, 52 have been sold as of this post.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455304944


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455304944

Zeddriver 02-13-2016 11:15 AM

More turbo Miata 1.6 hitting the streets!!

Braineack 02-13-2016 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by squeegee (Post 1306040)
t3/t4? Interesting. Maybe the log spools a big turbine well

no.



the amount of sales doesnt surprise me, miata owners (read 16yos) would rather cheap out and buy shit and spend $$$ and time/effort getting it to work and ulitmately replacing crap parts than finishing HS, getting a decent job, and spending like a few hours pay to buy a real setup without issues.

18psi 02-13-2016 01:32 PM

what he /\ said

Zachariah Saleh 02-15-2016 01:39 PM

Just ordered one of these along with an adapter for t25. Aside from potentially better airflow what would make the Begi/fm logs any better?

shuiend 02-15-2016 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Zachariah Saleh (Post 1307907)
Just ordered one of these along with an adapter for t25. Aside from potentially better airflow what would make the Begi/fm logs any better?

Besides the t3 to t2 adapter probably making the turbo hit your hood?

Begi/FM foundries are located in the US so they actually QC their manifolds.

I also think they put the turbo in a much better location for mounting to work with AC/PS.

Zachariah Saleh 02-15-2016 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1307909)
Besides the t3 to t2 adapter probably making the turbo hit your hood?

Begi/FM foundries are located in the US so they actually QC their manifolds.

I also think they put the turbo in a much better location for mounting to work with AC/PS.

This is the adapter I ordered. It appears to be really small in comparison to most adapters. Garrett T3 to T25 28 Turbo Manifold Adaptor | eBay

with the price of the manifold and adapter being almost a 4th of the price of begi/fm I am definitely willing to risk it. I could understand avoiding cheap tube style manifolds, but with how simple this is I don't see how anything could really go wrong.

shuiend 02-15-2016 01:59 PM

Well have you figured out how the hell you are going to actually bolt that adapter to the manifold and then the turbo? I see absolutely no way to do it.

Zachariah Saleh 02-15-2016 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1307916)
Well have you figured out how the hell you are going to actually bolt that adapter to the manifold and then the turbo? I see absolutely no way to do it.


Not yet. It is being advertised as an adapter for this type of application so I am just assuming it will work. Worst case scenario I return it and swap for the next best option. There seems to be a wide assortment of options and I am familiar with the ebay return process.

Braineack 02-15-2016 02:11 PM

yeah put studs the t25 side, then run bolts up through the back up the tacotaco flange and screw them into the back of that adapter.

ezpz.

shuiend 02-15-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1307925)
yeah put studs the t25 side, then run bolts up through the back up the tacotaco flange and screw them into the back of that adapter.

ezpz.

Bolts won't fit through the bottom of the 1.6 tacotaco flange. I don't see a way to mate the 2 t3 flanges together short of welding them.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455563999

Goingnowherefast 02-15-2016 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1307916)
Well have you figured out how the hell you are going to actually bolt that adapter to the manifold and then the turbo? I see absolutely no way to do it.

Maybe I'm blind but I also do not see a way of possibly doing this haha

patsmx5 02-15-2016 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Goingnowherefast (Post 1307932)
Maybe I'm blind but I also do not see a way of possibly doing this haha

Agreed.

OP with T2 to T3 question, I converted a T2 flanged manifold to T3 way back on my original build thread around 2008 or so. Basically drilled/tapped the old stripped T2 holes out and rethreaded them, then loc-tited some bolts in the holes, let loc tite set, cut off bolts, surface flat, then drill/tap new holes for T3 pattern. All done with a drill, tap, and file. Worked for 5 years, sold it to someone here last year.

shuiend 02-15-2016 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Goingnowherefast (Post 1307932)
Maybe I'm blind but I also do not see a way of possibly doing this haha

I mean technically I think you could weld it. No clue how easy it is to weld whatever sort of cast iron the manifold is made out of to whatever alloy steel that adapter is made out of.

Braineack 02-15-2016 02:30 PM

that was the joke.

Zachariah Saleh 02-15-2016 02:43 PM

Does anyone recommend an alternative adapter? Of course I do not want to have to deal with the turbo touching the hood. I'm sure I could cancel my order before it ships. I don't plan on building this setup quickly anyways I really just bought this because it seemed like the best quality manifold for the price for my application.

bahurd 02-15-2016 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1307925)
yeah put studs the t25 side, then run bolts up through the back up the tacotaco flange and screw them into the back of that adapter.

ezpz.

Good luck with that.

EDIT: Sorry, missed the in between posts while on the phone.

patsmx5 02-15-2016 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Zachariah Saleh (Post 1307942)
Does anyone recommend an alternative adapter?

See post 20.

deezums 02-15-2016 03:06 PM

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Weld-a-taco

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455566777

bahurd 02-15-2016 03:09 PM

Stupid question @Zachariah Saleh. Why not just run the T3 ebay turbo like everyone else? You can blow up the 1.6L just as quick.

deezums 02-15-2016 03:10 PM

Because he's a dumbass nooooob

shuiend 02-15-2016 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Zachariah Saleh (Post 1307942)
Does anyone recommend an alternative adapter? Of course I do not want to have to deal with the turbo touching the hood. I'm sure I could cancel my order before it ships. I don't plan on building this setup quickly anyways I really just bought this because it seemed like the best quality manifold for the price for my application.

No the adapters tend to be garbage, will probably vibrate loose, and then leak.

You will need a custom downpipe even if you manage to get it all bolted together. You are better off watching the classifieds and trying to buy a used FM/Begi manifold and a downpipe, so that way you know your shit fits together and works.

bahurd 02-15-2016 04:25 PM

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Regarding @patsmx5 posts earlier in #20, I guess it's possible but you end up with the T25 studs really close to the sides. Most likely they'll break through. Not too mention needing a shitload of porting at the turbine inlet. See drawing...


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455571520

patsmx5 02-16-2016 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1307998)
Regarding @patsmx5 posts earlier in #20, I guess it's possible but you end up with the T25 studs really close to the sides. Most likely they'll break through. Not too mention needing a shitload of porting at the turbine inlet. See drawing...


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455571520

Yeap, I cut into the bolts I loc-tite'd into the manifold when I did my T2 to T3 conversion. Never had a problem though, would do it again if I needed to turn a T2 into a T3.

aidandj 02-16-2016 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1307909)
Besides the t3 to t2 adapter probably making the turbo hit your hood?

Begi/FM foundries are located in the US so they actually QC their manifolds.

I also think they put the turbo in a much better location for mounting to work with AC/PS.

Are their foundries actually in the US? That's surprising. You can get good shit from china with good QC.

shuiend 02-16-2016 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1308143)
Are their foundries actually in the US? That's surprising. You can get good shit from china with good QC.

I know for a fact the foundry Begi uses is in Texas and a reasonable drive from their office.

I am pretty sure I saw a post by Keith years ago saying they also have their manifolds made in the US.

Braineack 02-16-2016 08:30 AM

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I hate when my taco shell cracks.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455629456

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2dbbdfdd53.png

shuiend 02-16-2016 08:48 AM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455630518

18psi 02-16-2016 09:36 AM

just fill it with cheese - problem solved

shordeee 05-24-2016 06:59 PM

Anyone have one of these taco taco manifolds for sale? they arnt available on ebay anymore..

bahurd 05-24-2016 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by shordeee (Post 1334022)
Anyone have one of these taco taco manifolds for sale? they arnt available on ebay anymore..

I happen to have one I've been holding on too. $145 + shipping. Pics of the actual manifold are in post #8 of this thread. PM me if you want it.

shordeee 05-25-2016 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1334059)
I happen to have one I've been holding on too. $145 + shipping. Pics of the actual manifold are in post #8 of this thread. PM me if you want it.

I pmed you

bahurd 05-25-2016 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by shordeee (Post 1334101)
I pmed you

Yes you did! And it shipped today...

seven11 08-02-2016 11:25 PM

does anyone have one of these manifolds they would want to sell? thanks-

bonez8 08-04-2016 05:48 AM

Only time this is ganna get bumped is people looking for the 10 that sold...
Anyone ever get to try one out?

Besusjesus 08-04-2016 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by bonez8 (Post 1351499)
Only time this is ganna get bumped is people looking for the 10 that sold...
Anyone ever get to try one out?

I'm currently running one. Fits fine, paired it with the same size turbo that comes in the MKTurbo kit and had a custom down pipe made up for it. I do not have many miles on it, and my Miata is currently just driven on the street..So we will see if it cracks or not, i did make relief cuts in a few spots.

mr steve 08-04-2016 02:01 PM

Mazda Miata NA B6 ZE 1 6L Cast Iron T3 T4 Exhaust Turbo Manifold Keep AC PW | eBay

back up

shuiend 08-04-2016 02:07 PM

I am betting its someone who bought extra's and is reselling them. The price went up about $50 and he only had 3.

mr steve 08-04-2016 02:13 PM

I thought about that, I think they would try for more than 33% markup if they were that smart.

Guessing there might be a new supply and they are releasing them slowly

m2cupcar 08-05-2016 07:50 AM

Mazda Miata NA B6 ZE 1 6L Cast Iron T3 T4 Exhaust Turbo Manifold Keep AC PW | eBay

T3 Flange Castiron Turbo Manifold for 1990 1993 Mazda Miata MX 5 1 6L Keep AC PS | eBay

Mazda Miata MX 5 NA 1 6L B6 ZE Turbo Exhaust Manifold Cast Iron T3 T4 1990 1993 | eBay

1990 1993 Turbo Exhaust Manifold Cast Iron T3 T4 boosted Mazda Miata MX 5 1 6L | eBay

Cast Iron T3 T4 Turbo Exhaust Manifold for 1990 1993 Mazda Miata MX 5 1 6L | eBay

$150 appears to be the new price standard

Fear18505 08-08-2016 08:51 PM

i was in contact with us.wan2 and he said it would be two months that they would return. i knew they were going to come back but i was hoping they wouldnt have a mark-up. eitherway i bought one like i said i would, now im jsut wondering what downpipe will fit if any

shuiend 08-08-2016 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Fear18505 (Post 1352342)
i was in contact with us.wan2 and he said it would be two months that they would return. i knew they were going to come back but i was hoping they wouldnt have a mark-up. eitherway i bought one like i said i would, now im jsut wondering what downpipe will fit if any

There is no off the shelf downpipe for it. That is one of the reasons we don't like them.

Fear18505 08-08-2016 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1352344)
There is no off the shelf downpipe for it. That is one of the reasons we don't like them.

i see, well fab up it is! prob would be better anyway so it doesnt rub like my brothers does

Braineack 08-08-2016 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Fear18505 (Post 1352351)
i see, well fab up it is! prob would be better anyway so it doesnt rub like my brothers does

You brother will never stop rubbing...


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