1.6 vs 1.8 Turbo
Was talking to a lad last night who swore that the 1.6 came with a turbo from the factory for other model Mazdas, thus it is more robust and able to handle forced induction easier. I was not only told that the 1.6 would be more durable and longer-lasting, but that if two cars, a 1.8 and a 1.6, both had the same turbo system, the 1.6 would be a bit quicker. He also mentioned the 1.6 would be fine on stock internals whereas the 1.8 would need a beefier setup.
I find all of this very hard to believe as he had no anecdotal evidence on this. I have done some research myself in finding this out but with no luck. Can somebody please clarify? |
Both came factory turbo, also prepare your anus.
Dann |
For requesting clarification?
Those of you who possess knowledge that I do not should not be frustrated when exchanging those knowledges. Humble yourself and deflate those egos before they BURST. Anus is prepared and clenched. Can you give me examples of both of these engines turbocharged from the factory? |
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Originally Posted by ATX.
(Post 959152)
Was talking to a lad last night who swore that the 1.6 came with a turbo from the factory for other model Mazdas, thus it is more robust and able to handle forced induction easier. I was not only told that the 1.6 would be more durable and longer-lasting, but that if two cars, a 1.8 and a 1.6, both had the same turbo system, the 1.6 would be a bit quicker. He also mentioned the 1.6 would be fine on stock internals whereas the 1.8 would need a beefier setup.
I find all of this very hard to believe as he had no anecdotal evidence on this. I have done some research myself in finding this out but with no luck. Can somebody please clarify? |
I hope you mean the MSM is the only BP in a miata that came turbo.
Dann |
Originally Posted by nitrodann
(Post 959167)
I hope you mean the MSM is the only BP in a miata that came turbo.
Dann |
no replacement for displacement.
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
(Post 959167)
I hope you mean the MSM is the only BP in a miata that came turbo.
Dann To the original question, the naturally aspirated 1.6 and 1.8 engines use the same rods, which are the limiting factor when turbocharging either one. I don't think this is a foolish question since there are so many armchair-experts with partial knowledge on any subject spreading misinformation. Good luck to you. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 959178)
By BP you mean the 1.8l miata engines correct? If so then yes you are correct. I believe that in the UK there were a few 1.6l miata that came with factory installed or dealer add on turbo upgrades briefly. I would actually have to pull out all my random miata books though to confirm that.
The BP was turbo'd in the 323 GTX before the MSM was even a twinkle in Mazda USA/Australia's eyes. |
Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
(Post 959187)
No book needed, it was the BBR, a dealer aftermaket - albeit factory approved - fit.
The BP was turbo'd in the 323 GTX before the MSM was even a twinkle in Mazda USA/Australia's eyes. |
Yes it did. That is why you occasionally find people selling the 1.8 gtx pistons/rods. The rods are supposed to be more robust then regular BP rods and be good to about 300rwhp like the pistons.
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1.6t < getting leatherface to take a dump on you < 1.8t
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 959195)
Yes it did. That is why you occasionally find people selling the 1.8 gtx pistons/rods. The rods are supposed to be more robust then regular BP rods and be good to about 300rwhp like the pistons.
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Originally Posted by Boosted Escort
(Post 959209)
wrong the 1.8 gtx rods are the same as all the other bp rods. Only the mazda 323 gtr came with the stronger rods. Also some of the b6t rods came with stronger rods that can be used in the bp but the gtr rods are the strongest factory rods. You can make around 400whp with the stock gtr engine.
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around 350 whp has been documented with the vj23 turbo thereildeal is his username. Another guy runs a gtr engine with a holset hy35 on a ford escort wagon. I have no idea how much whp he is making but he runs 2.5 bar and he runs it hard.
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