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_spyder 02-28-2011 08:18 PM

About to do Bosch BOV recirculation but...
 
From what I'm told, the Bosch BOV has a 1" inlet and outlet. So I'll replace my current eBay BOV with the Bosch one, and then connect the 1" heater hose, but how do I tap into the pipes after the MAF? Do you guys just drill a hole and then weld in a 1" bung? Because I don't have a welder or any welding skills and I'm not quite sure what to do. I'd like to order parts this week so I can complete this project this weekend.

dustinb 02-28-2011 08:35 PM

Why not just drill a hole, tap it and then screw in a brass fitting?

hustler 02-28-2011 08:48 PM

Take the money you'd spending on fittings and put it toward MS.

_spyder 02-28-2011 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 695510)
Why not just drill a hole, tap it and then screw in a brass fitting?

I could look into that. I'd have to buy a tap then.


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 695516)
Take the money you'd spending on fittings and put it toward MS.

That'll be down the road. Right now I'm just trying to get by in college. How much is a MS and what kind should I look into getting? I can't tune it myself as I have no idea how, so I'd need to go somewhere and get it dyno tuned I'm assuming.

nitrodann 02-28-2011 08:54 PM

And now the advice you really need.

Read here more.

And get an exhaust shop to weld a fitting on for like 5 bucks.

Dann

_spyder 03-01-2011 08:45 PM

I lurk quite a bit here. I can check with a local exhaust shop to see what they can do.

triple88a 03-01-2011 09:26 PM

Cut a 1" long piece of 1" dia pipe. Take off pipe where you want it welded. Drill the correct size hole in the spot chosen. Align the 1" piece how you want it and shape the bottom of it so it fits good. Once it matches up good, take a bolt with a big washer, put it through the piece, then put it in the hole you drilled and fixed up, on the inside tighten it up with a screw so it stays in place. Walk up to your local exhaust shop. While they are welding ask how much it would cost to weld it around the little pipe there. A lot of the pops shops wont even charge you. It literally takes 20-30 seconds to weld it. Pop on the clamp and weld away.

_spyder 03-01-2011 11:51 PM

Okay, that sounds like something that would work. Should the hole that I'm drilling in the current piping be just under 1", or can it be smaller? I'm not sure if it matters or not.

ger 03-02-2011 04:08 AM

Here is my set up using a forge valve (similar fitting to bosch)

http://www.gerfitzgerald.com/car/IMG_9575.JPG

http://www.gerfitzgerald.com/car/IMG_9573.JPG

Weld 1" SS pipe at the throttle body inlet and 1" alloy pipe welded into the cast greddy intake. welding cost me $20.

triple88a 03-02-2011 03:49 PM

I would make the hole bit bigger diameter than the ID of the 1" pipe you have so you dont have a lip in the way. Just dont make it so much to where the 1" pipe goes inside the hole since then you'll be blocking the flow to the turbo.

Braineack 03-02-2011 03:58 PM

1" hole saw, 1" thread pipe, JB Weld, 3/4" ID hose...

see 15psi.com, look for his recirculation kit...

Wonk Unit 03-04-2011 11:22 AM

pardon my being a noob, but i thought you would want the recirculation to go AFTER the MAF. true or false?

dustinb 03-04-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Wonk Unit (Post 697157)
pardon my being a noob, but i thought you would want the recirculation to go AFTER the MAF. true or false?

True because you don't want it to re-meter the air.

Wonk Unit 03-04-2011 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 697159)
True because you don't want it to re-meter the air.

Thanks, thats what i thought, but i thought i'd check.

_spyder 03-06-2011 02:22 AM

Alright, my plan is to cut off a 1" piece of 1" ID pipe, shape it correctly, and then JB Weld it onto the pipe. I've been told that the JB Weld will be strong enough. If this doesn't work I'll have to go with plan B.

Thanks for all the help guys.

dustinb 03-06-2011 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by _spyder (Post 697862)
Alright, my plan is to cut off a 1" piece of 1" ID pipe, shape it correctly, and then JB Weld it onto the pipe. I've been told that the JB Weld will be strong enough. If this doesn't work I'll have to go with plan B.

Thanks for all the help guys.


Man the jb weld is going to cost almost as much as getting it properly welded, except it is going to look like ass and might fail. Do it right.

ger 03-07-2011 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 697918)
Man the jb weld is going to cost almost as much as getting it properly welded, except it is going to look like ass and might fail. Do it right.

+1

What happens if bits of broken JB weld finds it's way into you intake/turbo

rider384 03-07-2011 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by _spyder (Post 695518)
I could look into that. I'd have to buy a tap then.



That'll be down the road. Right now I'm just trying to get by in college. How much is a MS and what kind should I look into getting? I can't tune it myself as I have no idea how, so I'd need to go somewhere and get it dyno tuned I'm assuming.

MS can be had for 400ish in the classifieds if you wait around. I can help you tune, since you're in WI. What part? We could meet up halfway and tune it up. I tuned mine on the road, and while I'm probably sacrificing a couple horses because of it, it's been running safely for a year.

_spyder 03-07-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 697918)
Man the jb weld is going to cost almost as much as getting it properly welded, except it is going to look like ass and might fail. Do it right.

Alright, I'll see if I can have a friend weld it up for me. I would have to agree with you on this one.


Originally Posted by ger (Post 698225)
+1

What happens if bits of broken JB weld finds it's way into you intake/turbo

Wouldn't want that happening for sure, I'll probably get it welded from a friend then if I can do so.


Originally Posted by rider384 (Post 698247)
MS can be had for 400ish in the classifieds if you wait around. I can help you tune, since you're in WI. What part? We could meet up halfway and tune it up. I tuned mine on the road, and while I'm probably sacrificing a couple horses because of it, it's been running safely for a year.

I'd have to wait for summer until I can get the cash for it, but I'd love help with tuning it. That's one of the main reason I'm avoiding it. It seems like there is many different kinds of MS's though, which kind should I be looking into getting? I don't know crap about them, straight up honest. But I know when I do get a MS I want to be able to turn the boost up to about 15 psi, and for that I believe I'd need new injectors as well. I'm in the Fox Valley area (Appleton), not quite sure how far that is away from you but I would meet up. I'm about 30 mins south of Green Bay.

Braineack 03-07-2011 01:52 PM

You want an MS-II that was built correctly. You need to be aware that you might have to revert back one day a year to pass emissions.


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