Affordable tial Vband housing?
I want to do a V-band churby setup i just nabbed a GT2860rs .84 and i looked at tials website and i couldnt find any pricing which leads me to believe they only wholesale. Maybe one of you can chime in?
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Affordable and Tial v-band housing don't fit in the same sentence ;p
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this is true. Im gonna have to deal with studs backing out on my new setup and im fine with that. You know EVERYONE doesnt have to run vbands |
You will not find one cheaper than $430. Want in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
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Best price I could find:
TiAL SS Turbine Housings : Himni Racing, Turbocharger, Turbo, Garrett, Turbo Kit, GReddy, Mazda RX-7, HKS, Apexi, TiAL, TurboXS, TurboSmart, Flange, Turbonetics, Exhaust, Intercooler, ACT, Intake However, you may want to call beforehand to get a ETA on it since it may be backordered for weeks. A place like ATP (I believe this is where tim gets his) or Full Race is more likely to stock them. BTW, you still need the flange and v-band. Stuff gets expensive quickly. |
My source for TiAL stuff is either ATP or, as I found out today, BEGI! My dad's shop got approved to become a TiAL dealer today too, I have to come up with the $3500 buy in first however. Too bad Sav already has his stuff, that would have helped a lot.
EDIT: Retail on the .86 turbine from ATP is $365, so even thru ATP I can sell it less than that. But like has been mentioned, you have 2 x $50 flanges and 2 x $35 clamps, plus an external wastegate to buy too. http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=TTH |
Originally Posted by turbotim
(Post 442351)
that would have helped a lot.
:d |
Prob would of been cheaper just to buy the turbo new with the tial exhaust housing... 800 for a new turbo (200 miles) and fittings,
1200 for a brand spankin new churby with v band housing. I think if i got the tial housing for anything less than 400 id be ahead. Tim, this project is a month or so away. Maybe we can offer a group buy to get an order from tial direct through your dealer. Id be in for : .86 housing with other mate and clamp, WG vband and clamp, 3" v band for the downpipe with clamp, probably more v bands, So like 700-800$ order. and could you also win me the lottery? Thanks :laugh: |
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 442351)
My source for TiAL stuff is either ATP or, as I found out today, BEGI! My dad's shop got approved to become a TiAL dealer today too, I have to come up with the $3500 buy in first however. Too bad Sav already has his stuff, that would have helped a lot.
EDIT: Retail on the .86 turbine from ATP is $365, so even thru ATP I can sell it less than that. But like has been mentioned, you have 2 x $50 flanges and 2 x $35 clamps, plus an external wastegate to buy too. Tial Turbine Housings: atpturbo.com |
No way... Id piss down someones throte if i were you.
I feel for ya man:makeout: |
holy shit hustler you've got to be kidding.......
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Add the vband EWG to that list tim. So probably around 1000 bills. Okay so we need 3 more people to do the same thing !
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Something tells me he wouldn't kid about that sort of thing.
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If there's a group buy, may I get in on it? :D
edit: first post! hello everyone!! |
I think its pretty cool that this entire forum is switching over to v-bands. We'll show the Evo faegs what's up.
I'm supposed to speak with UPS again today about cutting a check for a new turbo. |
Damn Hustler...I don't know what to say.
With regards to a TiAL group buy, I have to review the 4 page minimium advertized price document. I don't think you can advertize group buys on the internet or wherever. What I will try to do however is charge "full price" on the TiAL parts to whomever buys a manifold/downpipe from me, and sell the mani/downpipe for a lot less...same basic thing. Ultimate cost on the entire setup would be less than if I just bought the stuff from ATP like I've been doing. On my list of definites: GT2871 52 trim .86a/r, MV-s, flanges & clamps (the snowboarder) MV-s, flanges & clamps (hustler) Maybe: .86 a/r, MV-s, flanges & clamps (sbkcocker) BOV (hustler) I may as well get a .64 a/r or two too, and maybe a turbo for me. |
oh, I want one of those little tial keychains too, lol
http://www.tialmedia.com/p_images/keychainslg.jpg |
you guys and your .86!!! where's my back to back dyno runs to prove this? what made y'all decide to never look at a .64 again?
incidentally, UPS will fix your shit the second you call up and ask for a supervisor and tell them they owe you the cost of a turbo. if they can't show a signature or note from you, they're fooooooked |
damnit you guys, i'm not cool enough or rich enough to play with v-band setups and its making me feel like i'm not sitting at the cool kids table at lunch lol.
hell, I still have a 1.6 diff and a stock clutch :( |
I don't really care to be a cool kid at 33, 34 at the end of the month, but at least I'll have a vband on my turbo to downpipe connection. Something tells me if this trend continues to grows, next year someone else will be selling these for cheaper than Tial can build them for. If I need it then, I go for it but for now, I'll just be happy seeing boost.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 442438)
I think its pretty cool that this entire forum is switching over to v-bands. We'll show the Evo faegs what's up.
I'm supposed to speak with UPS again today about cutting a check for a new turbo. The Evo's have us beat on making crazy e85 power. Chris |
Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
(Post 442530)
The Evo's have us beat on making crazy e85 power.
Chris |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 442474)
you guys and your .86!!! where's my back to back dyno runs to prove this? what made y'all decide to never look at a .64 again?
incidentally, UPS will fix your shit the second you call up and ask for a supervisor and tell them they owe you the cost of a turbo. if they can't show a signature or note from you, they're fooooooked |
Anyone know if there is any talk about v-band setup for t25
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 442540)
how much torque do you make on which dyno? If its a dynojet, you're going to have to make 275+wtq to sit at this table.
IIRC, he's making 220rwtq (240hp) on a dynojet with 9psi.... |
Originally Posted by wildfire0310
(Post 442550)
Anyone know if there is any talk about v-band setup for t25
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 442369)
well, I may need another turbo if UPS can't find mine. Yes, my shipment from BEGi is lost in transit. It was never signed for, but delivered. The fucking saga continues.
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Originally Posted by Sam Amporful
(Post 442534)
power isnt everything. The ones i've seen cant drive and we handle much better.
I just meant that a great number of people on the EVO board run e85. I haven't seen anyone here or on the pointy board running it consistently. :wonders why Hustler doesn't have an e85 map for shits: Chris |
I would wonder if its avaliable where he fills up. I live in the colony, but work in frisco, and drive to dallas 3 or more times a week. I never see e85 when I get gas, but even if I did, since I don't have the ability to switch tunes on the fly based on flex fuel sensor on my MS, it doesn't matter for me.
Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
(Post 442585)
And the newer versions are pretty dammed forgiving with all the TC and what not. I've been to an EVO track day were there were quite a few competent drivers.
I just meant that a great number of people on the EVO board run e85. I haven't seen anyone here or on the pointy board running it consistently. :wonders why Hustler doesn't have an e85 map for shits: Chris |
Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
(Post 442585)
And the newer versions are pretty dammed forgiving with all the TC and what not. I've been to an EVO track day were there were quite a few competent drivers.
I just meant that a great number of people on the EVO board run e85. I haven't seen anyone here or on the pointy board running it consistently. :wonders why Hustler doesn't have an e85 map for shits: Chris People keep telling me to put race fuel in the car, but it won't get anything because adding spark angle does not increase output after MBT is achieved. |
Did you pull this off tuning by hand, or have you been on the dyno.
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 442603)
I don't need e85 because I hit MBT in every cell on 93...and I'll probably hit it next time when I tun on 91octane.
People keep telling me to put race fuel in the car, but it won't get anything because adding spark angle does not increase output after MBT is achieved. |
Originally Posted by apariah
(Post 442615)
Did you pull this off tuning by hand, or have you been on the dyno.
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I sometimes get hit in the face by the obvious.
Originally Posted by wayne_curr
(Post 442617)
How would he know he hit MBT if he wasn't on a dyno?
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I might be interested on Tial "GB" depend on the price. I think think they make v-band housing for GT2560R...or do they..
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Originally Posted by apariah
(Post 442615)
Did you pull this off tuning by hand, or have you been on the dyno.
Let me know if you want to tune it. you better bring me some bad-ass beer though. |
Originally Posted by aznDragonX
(Post 442630)
I might be interested on Tial "GB" depend on the price. I think think they make v-band housing for GT2560R...or do they..
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I emailed them recently. They do not make and have no plans to make one for the 2560.
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Tim, I might be in for a kit. But I mean a kit: turbo, manifolder, flanges, bands, the works. And I expect it to align to my cat exactly where/how my current dp ends. Basically what Hustler has me thinks...
Would that work? |
I should have listened to Savington and gone with Tim back in early July...now I'm fucked because I beat a dead horse and can't get back to the track event I already paid for.
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You can borrow my lemons car if you want for your race. It's real nice
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Jeeze. I also need the 38mm WG lol
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Tial calls it a gt25/gt28 housing
TiAL Sport.com Tim, have you tried to mate it to a gt25. The wheel exducer is the same diameter, the inducer is only .8mm smaller. 53mm vs 53.8mm, but that's not important. As far as I'm concerned gt25/gt28's use the same turbine housing. |
hmm..I am thinking about getting one now. If I can use it for both GT25 and GT28. I am planning to upgrade to GT2871R later
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The Absurdflow downpipes alone are so sexy and with the Vbands thrown in. Time to save them pennies. |
Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 442656)
Tim, I might be in for a kit. But I mean a kit: turbo, manifolder, flanges, bands, the works. And I expect it to align to my cat exactly where/how my current dp ends. Basically what Hustler has me thinks...
Would that work? |
Originally Posted by sprayed
(Post 442684)
Tial calls it a gt25/gt28 housing
TiAL Sport.com Tim, have you tried to mate it to a gt25. The wheel exducer is the same diameter, the inducer is only .8mm smaller. 53mm vs 53.8mm, but that's not important. As far as I'm concerned gt25/gt28's use the same turbine housing. I'm think you (I) can machine a v-band out of a T2 inlet, but in that case you'd still be stuck with the standard outlet and cast iron. |
You're right, sorry for getting everyones hopes up. GT2560= 2.09” inducer/ 1.64” exducer, GT2860= 2.12” inducer/ 1.85” exducer
What's the deal with Tial? I've seen the same thing advertised as gt25/28 on several other websites...copied from theirs I'm sure. |
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