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miatauser884 05-02-2010 01:45 AM

Air filter mounting location. Your opinion please
 
I had to clock the turbo again because it was not allowing the hood to close.

https://www.miataturbo.net/picture.p...pictureid=1054

Here are two options for air filter location. Obviously I have to cut the pipe and attach it, so use your imagination. On orients the filter at a 45 degree angle and the other at a 90 that places it at the front of the motor.

I third option is to try and get one of those very thin mushroom style filters, but it seems like it would be really close to the exhaust manifold. At least with the first two its a little farther from the turbo and manifold heat.

https://www.miataturbo.net/picture.p...pictureid=1053

https://www.miataturbo.net/picture.p...pictureid=1052

magnamx-5 05-02-2010 02:05 AM

dude my filter is way bigger than yours i just hamered on the inside alil and then trimmed the hood to make it all fit. Your damn turbo outlet pipes are in the way move them and you will be able to swing that filter easily.

curly 05-02-2010 04:12 PM

Save the weight of the pipe and bolt it right to the turbo? That's what I did since I didn't want to bother with cold air boxes, extra pipes and clamps, etc. I think the ease of it is well worth whatever power I'm loosing from heat. It's much better than directly behind the radiator like it used to be anyways.

levnubhin 05-02-2010 04:14 PM

Clock the turbo down.
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miatauser884 05-02-2010 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 566660)
Save the weight of the pipe and bolt it right to the turbo? That's what I did since I didn't want to bother with cold air boxes, extra pipes and clamps, etc. I think the ease of it is well worth whatever power I'm loosing from heat. It's much better than directly behind the radiator like it used to be anyways.

I'd have to get a shorter filter, it won't fit as is .

miatauser884 05-02-2010 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 566662)
Clock the turbo down.

I thought about this, but I would have had to cut some metal out of the frame there. It would have also made it very tight around the AC. The current setup provides me easy access to everything. Down would have been easier. All of my IC pipe is cut, and fits.

Braineack 05-02-2010 07:32 PM

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...egidone002.JPG

miatauser884 05-02-2010 08:00 PM

^^^ You are correct, I could have oriented it that way. I changed my mind at the last minute because I wanted easy access to the AC compressor without removing a bunch of stuff. In hind sit this was probably stupid. I mean, how often does a person need to get to the ac compressor. Unfortunately now, i'm not sure If I have the piping to put it in that orientation. I'll pick one of the two above filter locations. If I decide I hate it I will have to clock turbo again and make some changes.
Thanks for the picture. I had actually forgotten about that orientation. I was lacking a 2" silicone 90 at the time.

miataspeed2005 05-02-2010 09:42 PM

Behind the headlight, it looks like you still have enough room in there

Sparetire 05-02-2010 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 566788)
Behind the headlight, it looks like you still have enough room in there

Me Too. Or run a pipe into the cowl area behind the hood hinges. Both the options shown suck big time.

Myspeed123 05-02-2010 11:46 PM

Cut a hole in the hood and stick it out!! Sorry man had to add!! No but they're right, behind the headlight or circle back and behind the strut tower beside the brake master like CXRacing does in their kits.

astroboy 05-03-2010 08:29 AM

Stick it on your turbo. Buying a new filter and making insane piping to go all over your engine bay is a waste of time/money.

kotomile 05-03-2010 09:01 AM

If you do end up putting the filter directly onto the turbo, bend up a heat shield. Maybe even channel some cool air to it if you feel it necessary.

wittyworks 05-03-2010 10:16 AM

I first had mine just straight on the turbo, no problems at all worked fine. I wanted to clean up the engine bay, so i moved it up behind the headlight and made a heat shield, temp dropped about 8-10 degrees in the full range of speed according to megasquirt

miatauser884 05-03-2010 11:00 AM

I'll try behind the headlight again. I don't think I tried after clocking the turbo again. I should really just clock it again like Brain has it. It's just more work, and another $16 silicone adapter. However, I would be able to use my heat shield since it would put the filter back in the original FM location.

Braineack 05-03-2010 11:04 AM

it was REALLY tight. I had to replace the lower rad hose with a universal-flex.

miataspeed2005 05-03-2010 11:06 AM

If you clock it you will have less bends as well

triple88a 05-06-2010 02:27 AM

back by the brake booster

Begi sells wide flat filters that are perfect for behind the headlight on my nb. I dont see a problem why u cant fit one on an NA.

http://www.bellengineering.net/produ...roducts_id=253

poobs 02-15-2011 02:18 PM

I know this is an old thread but this is whaere I am at now.
My filter is mounted ona short piece of 45 degree aluminum pipe with a silicone coupler to the turbo. It is a ricer style filter with a plastic shroud that opens right near the driver's side headlight motor near the drivers headlight.
I like the fact that the shroud tries to make the air come in from the front away from the turbo. Note that I also have a TSI on that side.

BUT the actual filter itself under that shroud is little more than the size of a cofee filter.
It go dirty in a hurry and I doubt that it is really filtering much.

It looks like the one here http://www.siliconeintakes.com/produ...4659d74ba9347c

So what are the options ? A 180 turn towards the firewall ?

Anybody use OEM style cone paper filter ?

Anybody go past the side of the radiator to go get some cool air ?

Weaver 03-05-2011 01:35 PM

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...dOEF3iea5L&t=1

nuff said, look on google, they make ever shape and size known to man

astroboy 03-05-2011 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697662)
nuff said, look on google, they make ever shape and size known to man

Even the ever elusive penis shape?

18psi 03-05-2011 01:54 PM

that filter sounds like FAIL poobs. I don't think it flows worth a crap

triple88a 03-05-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 697669)
that filter sounds like FAIL poobs. I don't think it flows worth a crap

Well i'm pretty sure it has a 1/8th of an inch mesh on it :bowrofl:

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by astroboy (Post 697668)
Even the ever elusive penis shape?

I'm sure they do. :giggle:


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 697669)
that filter sounds like FAIL poobs. I don't think it flows worth a crap

No. Its not fail.
K&N flows ~25% more air than a common paper filter, while the UNI only flows ~21% more air than a common paper filter.
It doesn't flow as well as K&N...HOWEVER it provides MUCH better filtration. Dust retention on K&N is 45 microns (0.00177"), while UNI is 4microns (0.00015").

With it filtering qualities that much better than the K&N you can keep your ~4% more airflow.

But not that you would care, I've seen your build...do you even run a filter?

18psi 03-05-2011 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697708)
I'm sure they do. :giggle:



No. Its not fail. And it doesn't flow as well as K&N...BUT it provides MUCH better filtration. Dust retention on K&N is 45 microns (0.00177"), while UNI is 4microns (0.00015").

But that you would care, I've seen your build...do you even run a filter?

Oh really? Where's your build dipshit, I want to see the epicness..Oh that's right you don't even fucking have one yet, cocksucking noob.

And yes it is fail. It puts a huge ass cover onto a cone filter, rendering the whole filter about as useful as the opening in front of it. Meaning he could just as well run an inline filter the size of his inlet tube and have the same flow. You want the best filtration you run a stock fucking airbox. You want more flow you run a cone. Which is what most here do. Running the ricer ass cone cover is like running a 3" exhaust with a 1.5" outlet.

And that is FAIL.
Much like your logic.

And yes I have a filter. Post pics of your ghetto ass home brew shit and we'll see how much room you have to talk.

poobs 03-05-2011 06:40 PM

But that you would care, I've seen your build...do you even run a filter?[/QUOTE]


Right now I'm running a beer can with holes and a dirty sock inside, Sometimes I use an empty can of Red Bull with paper towels stuffed in it :bowrofl: but I have my eye on one that BEGI and Flying Miata. It is shaped like an oval ;)

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:43 PM

18psi, don't you live with your parents?

18psi 03-05-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697717)
18psi, don't you live with your parents?

I live with your mother.
Thanx for reminding me btw, I forgot to fill her bowl this morning

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 697712)
Oh really? Where's your build dipshit, I want to see the epicness..Oh that's right you don't even fucking have one yet, cocksucking noob......

Post pics of your ghetto ass home brew shit and we'll see how much room you have to talk.

Have a build, but its not on this forum of fuck cocking smoking shit talking ******s like you. And sorry I haven't had time to post pics been pretty busy fucking your mom's tight asshole.

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:50 PM

http://www.racevideoforums.com/forum...some-cars.html

wow your a post whore on more than one forum. i'm amazed you find time to post with all those cocks in your ass. werid.

rider384 03-05-2011 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697720)
Have a build, but its not on this forum of fuck cocking smoking shit talking ******s like you. And sorry I haven't had time to post pics been pretty busy fucking your mom's tight asshole.

HAHAHAHAHA You're so clever!!!11!one!

GTFO

18psi 03-05-2011 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697721)
http://www.racevideoforums.com/forum...some-cars.html

wow your a post whore on more than one forum. i'm amazed you find time to post with all those cocks in your ass. werid.

http://files.sharenator.com/tumblr_l...344-134550.jpg


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697720)
Have a build, but its not on this forum of fuck cocking smoking shit talking ******s like you. And sorry I haven't had time to post pics been pretty busy fucking your mom's tight asshole.

I guess I overestimated your ability to come back with anything intelligent.

So here's something to cater to your IQ: "NO U":robert:

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:57 PM

i hope your car explodes into a ball of fire with your fat peice of shit ass locked inside of it.

Weaver 03-05-2011 06:59 PM

i'm in a shitty mood today, I wish i was in "NORCAL" or where ever the fuck your ****** ass is from. I'd beat your fucking face in just for driving a white fag car.

18psi 03-05-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697725)
i hope your car explodes into a ball of fire with your fat peice of shit ass locked inside of it.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_l2VT7bYUEa...52816%2529.jpg


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697726)
i'm in a shitty mood today, I wish i was in "NORCAL" or where ever the fuck your ****** ass is from. I'd beat your fucking face in just for driving a white fag car.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QOK6ANxIxasdkA
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...HZHEVC1WC0OoFJ

Weaver 03-05-2011 07:01 PM

Nope. I'll just take it out on your moms bleeding asshole later on this afternoon.

Oh, BTW you should tell "WEAVER" when he leaves the MWR in iraq to log out of all the faggy little car shit hes into.

rider384 03-05-2011 07:02 PM

Wow, can we ban this guy already?

:facepalm:

18psi 03-05-2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697728)
Nope. I'll just take it out on your moms bleeding asshole later on this afternoon.

Oh, BTW you should tell "WEAVER" when he leaves the MWR in iraq to log out of all the faggy little car shit hes into.

He'll figure it out when his account is banned champ ;)

triple88a 03-05-2011 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Weaver (Post 697720)
Have a build, but its not on this forum

:bowrofl:


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