ArtieParty's Turbo Build
Well I guess I should finally start my turbo build thread here. As some of you may know, I am having TurboTim / Shore Motorsports build me the components for my turbo kit. Tim is making me the manifold, downpipe, and full 3" exhaust including metalcore cat and muffler. Tim also ordered the turbo and all the lines I need for it. The turbo is a GT2560. Here's a list of the other things that I sourced already and are waiting to go on:
* Ebay 18x12x3 (core) intercooler * 2.5" stainless intercooler piping * FM Blow-off valve (thanks Yoram!) * RX-7 460cc injectors recently cleaned by Injector Rehab * Vishnu dual feed fuel rail * Toyota Coil-on-plugs (COPs) * Prosport green/white boost/vacuum gauge * Protege valve cover * ACT HD clutch I guess I should mention that my car is a 95 (R package for those of you who care). We recently swapped in a 99 head and deleted the a/c system. I am running a 94/95 Megasquirt (MAF deleted) and have a AEM UEGO wideband O2 sensor. Here's the pic's I just got from the shop: http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/74...600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/43...600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/42...600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/40...600x600Q85.jpg |
mmmmmmmm....shiny.
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I think I am aroused........
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Turbo Tim's manifold?
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Nice absurdflow
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Originally Posted by supra441979
(Post 297084)
Turbo Tim's manifold?
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Won't be shiny for long.
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he takes the turbo off the rack and puts it in his car.
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Update-
Installed the 460s, the Vishnu rail, and the COPS before I gave it to Tim. Tim had the car for a couple days and finished up everything he was doing for me. I had the car towed to a friends house and am ordering the couple extra parts I need now that the turbo itself is in. Tim and the shop say its his best exhaust to date. ( and I agree). Ill try to get pics of the final product soon. All I have are pics of the manifold and turbo in the car. And the turbo is actually clocked a different way then in the pics. its pointing more towards the fender now and a little up. http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...tieturbo13.jpg http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...tieturbo15.jpg http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/41...600x600Q85.jpg |
Wouldnt it have been simpler to just make Paul an offer he cant refuse and buy "The Machine"?
btw. im still waiting for your answer Artie. |
1. I dont think Paul would sell the machine. Besides, it doesnt have heat.
2. Yes, I'll take it. Lemme know where to paypal you the money. Tonight we're going to V17 for some Go-Karting. How far is that from you? |
Paul wouldn't refuse $7500
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Doh!
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Originally Posted by ArtieParty
(Post 306069)
1. I dont think Paul would sell the machine. Besides, it doesnt have heat.
2. Yes, I'll take it. Lemme know where to paypal you the money. Tonight we're going to V17 for some Go-Karting. How far is that from you? 1. Everyone has their price. 2. 31.7 miles, about an hour. I cant go tonight anyway.
Originally Posted by paul
(Post 306082)
Paul wouldn't refuse $7500
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Everything's for sale. For the right price. Few exceptions.
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I hope you like it and everything went ok at the store. Remember to tighten all the nuts and bolts on the turbo (inlet and downpipe) after you have a few heat cycles in there. They will be loose. Just make them "tight" using a regular wrench and one hand, do not go apeshit on them with a long wrench/ratchet or bounching your weight onto the wrench.
Let me know if you have any questions or need any help with the intercooler plumbing. What happened to your stock exhaust? Do I need to drop that off at your house? Yes, EVERYTHING is for sale for the right price!! |
Everything went smooth at the store. I picked up the exhaust and took it home in the 96. AAA came in about 10 min after i called them to pick up the car.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 306359)
bounching your weight onto the wrench.
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very nice.
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Originally Posted by ArtieParty
(Post 297076)
* 2.5" stainless intercooler piping |
uhg i want the manifold!
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Originally Posted by paul
(Post 306894)
Polished aluminum, not stainless
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Picture update. Started the intercooler piping last night, along with taking out the AC condensor that we left in before.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...1&d=1221132378 |
Cut your hoses and straighten out that clamp. If those 2 pipes are touching, I could weld them together if you mark them with a sharpie, if you want. But you probably don't seeing how you didn't want me to do it entirely, duh. haha.
Where is the air filter going? Looking good so far. |
Originally Posted by 240_to_miata_OWNER
(Post 306940)
uhg i want the manifold!
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 306954)
Buy one. $550. No A/C or P/S though.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 306953)
Cut your hoses and straighten out that clamp. If those 2 pipes are touching, I could weld them together if you mark them with a sharpie, if you want. But you probably don't seeing how you didn't want me to do it entirely, duh. haha.
Where is the air filter going? Looking good so far. |
Originally Posted by ArtieParty
(Post 306961)
That's not with ceramic coating right?
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 306953)
Cut your hoses and straighten out that clamp. If those 2 pipes are touching, I could weld them together if you mark them with a sharpie, if you want. But you probably don't seeing how you didn't want me to do it entirely, duh. haha.
Where is the air filter going? Looking good so far. |
Hot side of the intercooler is done.
http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3289.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3290.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3293.jpg Coolant lines and bypass done. Custom t-splice in lower radiator hose done, 5/16 fitting tapped into water inlet for turbo cooling. http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3294.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3295.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3297.jpg |
Absurdflow and 460s... are you doing a low boost car?
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No. I just haven't found any 550s yet. Well, I haven't found any 550s under $300. So for right now I guess I wont be able to turn up the boost just yet. :sad2:
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i spoze you can raise the fuel pressure
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Oh yeah, keep meaning to tell you Artie. OG might have a spare vortec sitting around you can use to raise your fuel pressure.
I was at 83% max DC on my 460s when I made 270rwhp. |
Originally Posted by paul
(Post 308050)
Oh yeah, keep meaning to tell you Artie. OG might have a spare vortec sitting around you can use to raise your fuel pressure.
I was at 83% max DC on my 460s when I made 270rwhp. |
14psi. Artie has the exact same setup.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 307993)
Absurdflow and 460s... are you doing a low boost car?
When I made 270rwhp I was in the 70's injector duty cycle. |
Nice pictures Artie. I hope that lower longass bracket isn't the only thing holding hte intercooler in. I'm sure you guys did brackets to the top intercooler bosses too.
You aren't driving the car until you have the entire intercooler plumbing, right?! How's the volume? Paul sent me a video of the car running but cell phone quality sucks. Keep an eye on the oil drain fitting in the oil pan for oil leaks. I suggested JB weld but my dad wasn't going to clean off the sludge on your oil pan and risk it leaking anyways. hehe I agree. There was enough thread depth to use teflon tape so you should be ok. EDIT: Again, remember to retighten the bolts and nuts on the turbo after a few heat cycles. |
It's much quieter than the Machine, not as quiet as the Daily.
His car is sitting in my driveway still. (6 fucking Miatas outside when no friends are over. It's ridiculous.) It will not be driven till the cold side piping and filter are done. |
Just ordered the 550s and had them sent to Injector Rehab. They said they still give the mt.net discount even though they're not a supporting vendor anymore. Intercooler couplers should be in on friday.
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Any reason you decided to put the T in the lower radiator hose instead of the upper radiator hose?
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Its not a coolant reroute at this point. That just moves the coolant lines out of the way for the turbo.
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Originally Posted by mikef85
(Post 309387)
Any reason you decided to put the T in the lower radiator hose instead of the upper radiator hose?
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Originally Posted by paul
(Post 309417)
Yes actually. To prevent the motor from running too cool and staying forever in warm up enrichment mode. With the cooler temps we have seen already(60s) my car with the t-splice in the upper hose had trouble maintaining high enough operating temps. I have since moved it to the lower and copied what I did for Artie.
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I use the heater core line to feed my turbos. Keeps you from having to tap that water neck on the water pump. Instead of JBwelding the large 5/8 barb on the T fitting, just use the smaller 3/8. Unless you also need a port for the return line from the throttle body, in which case I'll shut up now.
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need to get the water out of the heater core back into the front of the engine. the factory mixing manifold doesn't fit with that turbo setup so that's how we roll.
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Update- should be getting the couplers in today and have it out on the street later on. But in the meantime, here's some pics that Tim took of the downpipe/exhaust he made and some comparison pics to what paul has.
Pauls Dp- http://miatamx5.com/exhausts/pauldp.jpg Artie Dp- http://miatamx5.com/exhausts/artiedp.jpg Superimposed- http://compywiz.com/miata/images/dps.jpg Pauls Exhaust- http://miatamx5.com/exhausts/paulexhaust.jpg Arties Exhaust- http://miatamx5.com/exhausts/artieexhaust.jpg Superimposed- http://compywiz.com/miata/images/both2.jpg |
In case anyone is confused that is my exhaust mirrored so as to make it easy to compare to Artie's. On my car it exits on the driver's side(LHD car)
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http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3314.jpg
http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3317.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/artie/IMG_3319.jpg All done with a few exceptions: Artie couldn't find a K&N at the local auto parts stores that fit so we temporarily installed the way-too-small filter that came with my BEGi S kit. Getting a lil turbo flutter with the non-adjustable FM BOV. Guess he has to look into a lighter spring. Stock clutch starts slipping as soon as you get into boost down around 2600rpm. Thing was making 4psi at 2200. Artie has an ACT XT clutch waiting to go in. He's just a lazy bastard. |
Very nice setup so far man
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