A baffle necessary?
1) Would it cause alot of turbulence if I didn't use the baffle? My DP is just a single 2.5" tube, no divorcing.
I am going EWG so the flapper will be closed. 2) Any way to close the flapper w/ out welding it shut? |
Originally Posted by kenzo42
(Post 462920)
1) Would it cause alot of turbulence if I didn't use the baffle?
2) Any way to close the flapper w/ out welding it shut? http://www.servocity.com/assets/imag...s_with_rod.jpg |
um if you arent gonna just remove it then just unplug the boost source from the can and it should hold shut pretty damn well.
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
(Post 462920)
1) Would it cause alot of turbulence if I didn't use the baffle? My DP is just a single 2.5" tube, no divorcing.
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Originally Posted by WESamiss
(Post 463054)
I would say use it. Cause the baffle is there to hold fluid in place for the suction/supply line to draw from. *Depending on how you drive, drift, drag and what not the fluid would be shifting all over the reservoir and if it sucked up some air that could be bad. Then you could run into fluid lock and all other kind of problems.
I could be mistaken but I think the OP is referring to the baffle in some downpipes that keeps the wastegate flow from disrupting the exhaust flow... no fluid involved. I'd venture that if you have the internal WG permanently shut then the baffle isn't particularly needed. |
The FM3 kit has a threaded boss (like a sensor bung) welded on the downpipe allowing you to run a bolt into the internal gate flapper. Pins it shut.
You could also weld the bitch. |
Originally Posted by Rennkafer
(Post 463059)
I could be mistaken but I think the OP is referring to the baffle in some downpipes that keeps the wastegate flow from disrupting the exhaust flow... no fluid involved.
I'd venture that if you have the internal WG permanently shut then the baffle isn't particularly needed. |
Sounds like you've already gone to an external wastegate...so why not reap the full benefits.
Fluid flow at the turbine exit is very important...there is a reason the Tial exhaust housing have the hyperbolic curve on them. Even if you keep the flapper shut you are still leaving an eddy chamber next to your turbine. For what it would take to fab a baffle and weld it to the downpipe flange I would think it would be worth it. |
Originally Posted by albumleaf
(Post 463083)
FYI fluid can be any substance that deforms under stress. Any gas is a fluid, most liquids and some solids can also be characterized as fluids as well.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 463088)
Even if you keep the flapper shut you are still leaving an eddy chamber next to your turbine. For what it would take to fab a baffle and weld it to the downpipe flange I would think it would be worth it.
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Originally Posted by Rennkafer
(Post 463098)
I realize this... however the person I was responding to was talking about the oil system which is filled with what most non-engineers would consider fluid and I didn't want to get into an overly long explanation about how gases act like fluids etc..
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Originally Posted by Rennkafer
(Post 463101)
Agreed, but will the hour or so of fab and welding produce any dyno results?
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Originally Posted by Rennkafer
(Post 463059)
I could be mistaken but I think the OP is referring to the baffle in some downpipes that keeps the wastegate flow from disrupting the exhaust flow... no fluid involved.
I'd venture that if you have the internal WG permanently shut then the baffle isn't particularly needed.
Originally Posted by albumleaf
(Post 463083)
FYI fluid can be any substance that deforms under stress. Any gas is a fluid, most liquids and some solids can also be characterized as fluids as well.
Glass is a liquid. lol Sorry I didnt read his whole post, I just read the guy below his question. So I just answered the best I could. I work with hydraulics so I just saw baffle and spouted out an answer. haha |
Originally Posted by WESamiss
(Post 463129)
Glass is a liquid.
Glass is a crystalline solid structure. A prof of mine said they found that cathedral glass is thicker at the bottom due to the setting process, and not due to fluid flow over long periods of time. Found a link: Is glass liquid or solid? |
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