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drewbroo 10-23-2007 05:51 PM

BEGI Kit install
 
90% Done at this moment, all that is left is Tapping the oil pan, connecting the oil line to the pan, and installing the turbo heat shielding.
http://lh4.google.com/drewbroo/RxuN7...0/P1010646.JPG
http://lh6.google.com/drewbroo/RxuN7...0/P1010650.JPG http://lh5.google.com/drewbroo/RxuN8...0/P1010648.JPG
http://lh5.google.com/drewbroo/Rx5pL...0/P1010664.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/drewbroo/Rx5pM...0/P1010659.JPG
I also installed a new CD player too...

Zabac 10-23-2007 06:02 PM

BEGi install :bigtu:
CD :td:
j/k, looks great, looking forward to see it running soon, good luck to you

Savington 10-23-2007 06:33 PM

Did your setup come with the new M10 studs? Can you post closer photos of the new hardware?

drewbroo 10-23-2007 06:36 PM

yup

Braineack 10-23-2007 08:07 PM

t2x's are small. ;)

RickA 10-23-2007 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 166379)
t2x's are small. ;)

That's what she said...

Wait, what?

Savington 10-23-2007 09:35 PM

Brain, it's not the size, it's how you use it. ;)

Also, go online and order a radiator tonight, either a 1" CSF or a 37mm Koyo off eBay. Your radiator is on its last legs.

drewbroo 10-24-2007 07:08 AM

I will get a radiator after mine explodes. I have not had any overheating issues.

shuiend 10-24-2007 08:24 AM

Do you have AC? How did you route the intercooler pipe from the Compressor outlet around the AC lines? That is what is keepign me form boosting right now.

Stephanie Turner 10-24-2007 12:20 PM

You have to move the lower radiator hose. The a/c does make tapping the oil pan a bit more painful, but it can be done. It also requires that some lines be bent slightly to accommodate the intercooler.

DB- Good job on the install!
Stephanie

bryantaylor 10-24-2007 12:52 PM

flush that old brake fluid while you at it

drewbroo 10-24-2007 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 166660)
flush that old brake fluid while you at it

Will, do, thinking about removing my AC too.

shuiend 10-24-2007 10:26 PM

DO IT. I took out my AC today to fit my intercooling piping and am glad I did. Now to jsut find a manual steering rack to swap in and I will be set.

RotorNutFD3S 10-24-2007 10:32 PM

Just depower the rack. My '95 came without PS and I think it does just fine, but a lot of people seem to agree that the steering ratio on a depowered rack is much more agreeable.

cjernigan 10-24-2007 10:42 PM

Pretty sure the PS rack is one less turn lock to lock than the manual. FWIW

Slidin'Miata916 10-24-2007 11:53 PM

Wooow.
Like.
Im fucking jealous.

mike_671 10-25-2007 01:14 AM

Very nice. i wish i had money so i could buy a begi instead of greddy.
just paint that valve cover so it can give a better look under there:D

drewbroo 10-25-2007 07:16 AM

I am going to end up just cleaning one up really nice, I may get one PC'd Black (Valve cover.) If anyone has an extra one for a 1.8 let me know

mike_671 10-25-2007 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by drewbroo (Post 167038)
I am going to end up just cleaning one up really nice, I may get one PC'd Black (Valve cover.) If anyone has an extra one for a 1.8 let me know


its really not hard to paint your own. just about 10 min. scrubN it. then just spray coat after coat. thats what i did.

drewbroo 10-27-2007 07:22 PM

Need some help. THe Pierburg doesn't seem to want to cut on using the positive up not near the rollover cutoff wiring.I am going back through everything tomorrow. I'm getting no fuel Pressure though, and the car doesn't want to start.

Also I cant seem to hear my stock fuel pump cut on anymore.....

mtncrvr 10-27-2007 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 166356)
Did your setup come with the new M10 studs? Can you post closer photos of the new hardware?

Just a fyi:

I broke 4 studs removing things on two manis and sheared another 3 while driving (again on two diff manis - I think Corkey got tired of machining the broken studs out (but in his defence he didn't complain once) :-) M10 seems to hold up well - though I'm still wary of tightening / removing them (the heat cycles really seem to weaken studs...). I did hit them with PBW and tap them with the hammer prior to attempting to remove on the M8s.

mtncrvr 10-27-2007 08:00 PM

Kit looks good btw, you can prob have someone else turn ignition on while you listen at the rear deck to check the oe pump.

Saml01 10-28-2007 12:38 AM

Are you guys torquing the studs properly along with the nuts, they cant be that fragile.
Why dont the studs on the engine crack so readily as the manifold?

mtncrvr 10-28-2007 09:04 AM

Bell uses top lock nuts (instead of nodlock washers and normal nuts) that actually cut into the threads a bit - they hold better than anything shy of safety wire but eat into the studs a bit - and when you loosen them they tend to stick. I was torking them fyi. The studs on the exhaust mani are a bit bigger if memory serves and I'm thinking that those studs since they are in the head don't see quite as much heat as the ones the turbo actually sit on. Dunno didn't have that problem with the main exhaust mani studs.. Some of the M8 studs the turbo sat on actually just sheared off while driving but no probs on the M10s :bigtu: Google broken turbo stud and see how many links you get - seems this has been a problem in general even with OE turbos for a long time now - Kudos to Bell for going with big studs :-)

mtncrvr 10-28-2007 09:07 AM

If you get your mani ccoated I'd reccomend running a tap thru the turbo stud holes prior to reinstalling the studs (or have the shop do it) - the ccoating can get into the threads and you can easily break a stud reinstalling it with the extra thickness in the threads.

Markp 10-28-2007 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 168113)
Are you guys torquing the studs properly along with the nuts, they cant be that fragile.
Why dont the studs on the engine crack so readily as the manifold?

Maybe something to do with being substantially larger and not subjected to 1650 F. heat cycles... but that's just a guess. ;) That water jacketed aluminum head makes a great heat sink.

Mark

soflarick 10-28-2007 09:51 AM

Mark, are you running a 6-speed with that power?

Would a swap to nuts and flat+lock washers be a better plan than the tweaked nuts?

magnamx-5 10-28-2007 09:56 AM

he is running a 6 speed I dont think the washers will do it for you if you have breakage issues a better stud is the only option i like lock washers to help with stuff just comming untorqued though.

Stephanie Turner 10-28-2007 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by drewbroo (Post 168014)
Need some help. THe Pierburg doesn't seem to want to cut on using the positive up not near the rollover cutoff wiring.I am going back through everything tomorrow. I'm getting no fuel Pressure though, and the car doesn't want to start.

Also I cant seem to hear my stock fuel pump cut on anymore.....

Check the fuel injection fuse under the hood. I also think you've tapped into the wrong wire. Tim is in and out of the office today. Give us a call if you want to talk to him.
Stephanie

Markp 10-28-2007 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by soflarick (Post 168174)
Mark, are you running a 6-speed with that power?

Would a swap to nuts and flat+lock washers be a better plan than the tweaked nuts?

I personally use lock washers and nuts, the studs were holding up for me. Seems to work ok for me.

Yes, I am running the 6 speed with the 3.636 Torsen.

Mark

drewbroo 10-28-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Stephanie Turner (Post 168185)
Check the fuel injection fuse under the hood. I also think you've tapped into the wrong wire. Tim is in and out of the office today. Give us a call if you want to talk to him.
Stephanie

Thanks steph. If it was any help. it was the red and blue wire in the rear decklid. Also is there another power location under the car that can be used?

Hammerhead 10-28-2007 03:25 PM

Pump cuts on now, still getting no pressure, giving the shop a call.

cueball1 10-28-2007 03:46 PM

Your in FLA and thinking about removing the AC? You like heat and humidity? If this is a DD keep it in if you can!

I must really be getting old. I like my AC, power windows, power steering...

Hammerhead 10-28-2007 08:11 PM

Well, Drew is now boosted! He took it for an innaugural spin and was quite pleased.

drewbroo 10-28-2007 09:38 PM

Runs awesome, in exception if a horrible exhaust leak, I need to diagnose.
But it feels nice to boost. When I let off the throttle, it seems to want to IDLE around 200 RPMS after boosting. (May be because of the exhaust leak.)

drewbroo 10-28-2007 10:12 PM

Found the exhaust leak, apparently I didn't bolt my O2 sensor in very well.

Tremiata 10-29-2007 12:11 AM

Awesome to hear you got it going. Hopefully things will be smoother from here on out.

coastertrav 10-29-2007 12:57 AM

siq man

drewbroo 10-29-2007 11:28 AM

Everything is up and running great. I got one Check engine light, but I think an o2 clamp will solve that.

drewbroo 10-29-2007 09:15 PM

Got another problem, when it hits full boost now, the car seems to want to buck after things heat up. Is this a bipes setting I can correct? Am I getting too much retard? Does anyone have any settings on theirs they would like to share?

cjernigan 10-29-2007 09:17 PM

Isn't that part of what the O2 clamp resolves? I'm guessing. Though lean tip in will cause your car to buck, much like a leaky BOV. Though your BOV is recirced so we know that isn't a problem.

drewbroo 10-29-2007 09:46 PM

I did a couple of butt dyno runs, more retard after 4000 RPMS, seems to be doing the trick. Since I am running 16 degrees Base timing, I should probably be kicking back about 8 Degrees of timing atleast.

drewbroo 10-30-2007 11:42 AM

Still doing the bucking thing. Could be spark plugs?

mtncrvr 10-30-2007 12:18 PM

Wouldn't hurt to replace wires and check your timing (timing light style). I've seen both wires and off-timing cause this.

drewbroo 10-30-2007 01:23 PM

Gonna go get new wires now, I just changed the plugs today

drewbroo 10-30-2007 02:41 PM

I fucked with the wires a bit, and everything is running fine now.... I din't change them, I just took them out and put them back in.... , oh well the dyno will help me out tomorrow.


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