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x_25 10-04-2018 01:07 PM

If you are asking how to do a DIY budget turbo setup, you don't know enough to do a DIY budget turbo setup. Though you are closer than a lot of people we have show up here. Keep reading, follow the formula and all will be good.

The quickest way to totally change how your NA6 feels is to put in an ECU and tune it nice.


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1504683)
Unfortunately, you bought the wrong car.

You will need to spend 800 or $1,000 on a 1.8 rear differential and Axle shafts and driveshaft. The 1.6 diffs often fail at stock power.

The next big expense you cannot live without is a megasquirt ECU. Figure a bargain-basement unit will be about $400 up to build yourself. You will also need to purchase a wideband oxygen sensor at about $200.

Then you'll need a stronger clutch because the 1.6 clutches do not handle any boost at all. And the cheap ones on eBay don't work. Figure 300 to $450.

You will need injectors. Even used ones will have to be cleaned and tested so you don't blow up your only motor so figure 300 to $500. The eBay RX-8 injectors are almost all fakes and not 550cc.

I almost forgot, you will need a variable throttle position sensor since the 1.6 cars don't have one. Figure about 40 bucks for the modification.

Now you are ready for boost parts. They are by far the cheapest portion of your build. Anybody can figure those out on their own so I won't bother.

You can get a 1.8 open with shaft and axles for $350 or less. Though so far my 1.6 diff has held up to 145rwhp for two years and my friends put up with 180 for three. If a tow home isn't a huge deal, just fix it when it breaks. Noone is gonna cry over a toasted 1.6 rear end.

They listed a DIY Megasquirt in their list.

Clutch I agree with. Mine held a whole 3psi...

Injectors, just go flow force.

You don't need the VTPS to tune. MapDot works just fine for accell enrichment.

Shibby 10-04-2018 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by WigglingWaffles (Post 1504841)
Do you also use it for hemmeroid creams and toothpaste?

:cry: Reported for cyberbullying.

mj1176 10-04-2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1504664)
you gon learn today

I'm dying


OP, no matter what it's gonna be rough because as others have mentioned you're starting from what many here consider to be the "wrong car." But as someone who did it anyway and still enjoys their car, all I can say is follow Sixshooter's first comment and if you can afford to do all that and learn to do it correctly then it shouldn't be too hard to finish from there. Or just read constantly while you save up more money.

jacob300zx 10-04-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by sometorque (Post 1504713)

Solid posting, A+ Noob

1A Dan 10-05-2018 09:14 AM

If you've not turbo'd a car before, don't rush it. If you're trying to keep the budget down without sacrificing quality, its going to take a while to gather your parts. Rushing a build is only asking for problems that are going to take more time and money later to fix. Do the megasquirt first, learn how it works, collect parts along the way, read everything on the board.

Robert Corcoran 10-05-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by 1A Dan (Post 1505077)
If you've not turbo'd a car before, don't rush it. If you're trying to keep the budget down without sacrificing quality, its going to take a while to gather your parts. Rushing a build is only asking for problems that are going to take more time and money later to fix. Do the megasquirt first, learn how it works, collect parts along the way, read everything on the board.

my plan was never to rush it, I was just checking if I had a good idea of everything I'd need. Which it seems like excluding a clutch I pretty well do. I would want to be at a pretty conservative power level at first, so the diff is something I can worry about later. I'm an electronics student and for my final project I'm designing my own afr gauge so that's why I didnt include that in my list.

I'll do the megasquirt first, and then hoard some parts over the course of the next year or two. I just wanted to make sure I had a good idea of what I needed so when I find a good deal I can jump on it.

I know it would have been ideal to start with a 1.8, but the reality is it isnt really easy to find a miata where I live period, so this is what I have.

I will learn along the way, it's not like I have all these items in an ebay cart ready to check out, and doing it on a "budget" does not mean I want to cut corners. I just want to save money where I can.

Engi-ninja 10-05-2018 01:32 PM

1) People have said multiple times that the stock diff on a 1.6 will fail at stock power levels...which is like 75 hp.
2) You have stated that you'll replace the diff later because you'll start out at conservative power levels...implying that you're confident it will not fail at whatever power level you intend to achieve initially.
3) The only logical conclusion from this is that your target initial power is less than stock.

x_25 10-05-2018 01:41 PM

The stock 1.6 diff CAN fail at stock power levels. If you do clutch dumps with sticky tires and such.

Mine has been humming along at over 140rwhp for the last two years (up to 180, pushing for 200 soon, I don't expect it to last much longer).

I don't see why everyone is so upset someone.might blow up their diff that noone cares about and need a tow home?

hi_im_sean 10-05-2018 02:12 PM

Would ban just for mentioning RX8 yellows, personally.

Engi-ninja 10-05-2018 02:29 PM

Haha, that seems excessive.

In my defense, they're real RX8 injectors, and when I got them, they were considered an acceptable choice.

18psi 10-05-2018 02:33 PM

I like how we're discussing the parts he'll break with a setup that's little more than a wet dream

We don't even know tha OP isn't a 5 year old Nigerian prince that came here to solicit us

#FAKEBUILD

ryansmoneypit 10-05-2018 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by x_25 (Post 1505148)
The stock 1.6 diff CAN fail at stock power levels. If you do clutch dumps with sticky tires and such.

Mine has been humming along at over 140rwhp for the last two years (up to 180, pushing for 200 soon, I don't expect it to last much longer).

I don't see why everyone is so upset someone.might blow up their diff that noone cares about and need a tow home?

Ive seen this made-up word used a lot lately. please allow me to clarify:
no one
ˈnō ˌwən/
pronounpronoun: no one
  1. no person; not a single person."no one came"synonyms:nobody, not a soul, not anyone, not a single person, never a one, none
    "no one shed a tear when he was fired"


x_25 10-05-2018 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1505159)
Ive seen this made-up word used a lot lately. please allow me to clarify:
no one
ˈnō ˌwən/
pronounpronoun: no one
  1. no person; not a single person."no one came"synonyms:nobody, not a soul, not anyone, not a single person, never a one, none
    "no one shed a tear when he was fired"

Cool. Lets see you not make typos on a phone keyboard.

Robert Corcoran 10-05-2018 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1505159)
Ive seen this made-up word used a lot lately. please allow me to clarify:
no one
ˈnō ˌwən/
pronounpronoun: no one
  1. no person; not a single person."no one came"synonyms:nobody, not a soul, not anyone, not a single person, never a one, none
    "no one shed a tear when he was fired"

A internet grammar cop who has bad grammar.

I'm assuming you're not using "Ive" in its suffix form. If you're using it as a contraction for "I have" then there must be an apostrophe between the letters I and V.

Robert Corcoran 10-05-2018 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1505158)
I like how we're discussing the parts he'll break with a setup that's little more than a wet dream

We don't even know tha OP isn't a 5 year old Nigerian prince that came here to solicit us

#FAKEBUILD

This is true, the only miata I actually own is a dinky car.

18psi 10-05-2018 04:31 PM

ive nava seen n00ne use a gr33dy kit on a yata'

n00ne

ama take dat as a sign of disrespec

hi_im_sean 10-05-2018 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Engi-ninja (Post 1505156)
Haha, that seems excessive.

In my defense, they're real RX8 injectors, and when I got them, they were considered an acceptable choice.


Not you, silly. OP.

hi_im_sean 10-05-2018 06:53 PM

I kinda like you and Ive been drinking so ima take a stab at it

buy a cheap used t25 (or Ebay?)- sure
ebay cast log manifold- yup
Find a used fmic off local classifieds- an intercooler isnt a front mount until you.... mount it. Read this if youre trying to be a cheap ass like myself https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...tercool-83180/
ebay or used ic piping- look at mine or aidandj intercooler routing, its less than $100
ebay lines- buy some hose, buy some ends, make them. Or hit up MKturbo
diy megasquirt (lots of soldering experience)- yes, do this first
rx8 yellow injectors- gtfo with that cancer, flowforce or diy flowforce or dont turbo your car. (or id1ks, or really an ev14 injector that meets flow needs)

what's a good option for a cheap Downpipe- your mom.

Engi-ninja 10-05-2018 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by hi_im_sean (Post 1505201)
Not you, silly. OP.

Yeah...I figured that out right after I posted :-P

I agree, though, get flowforce. It's not that much more monies, and much more betterer everything else.


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