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01-25-2009, 10:08 PM
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I searched on m.net for "built motor boost" and came upon some threads. This one seems to have a similar question/debate.
MX-5 Miata Forum - How much power is this engine good for?
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MX-5 Miata Forum - How much power is this engine good for?
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01-25-2009, 10:13 PM
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I searched on m.net for "built motor boost" and came upon some threads. This one seems to have a similar question/debate.
MX-5 Miata Forum - How much power is this engine good for?
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MX-5 Miata Forum - How much power is this engine good for?
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01-25-2009, 10:15 PM
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If you read a book about it you'd realize that M3/min or CFM is the measure of power.
Boosht ish ther mershur of baaakkpprressuurre in ther innntaaakkke seeestum.
That ther's yer problem. Ya still don't fuukin' lissen.
GT2554 at 15psi < t3/t4 at 15psi (the CFM's are different and the HP's are different.)
CFM of air plus fuel equals HP. How many CFM can my engine handle equals how much HP can my engine handle. And PSI is almost completely irrelevant to that equation other than the fact that excess PSI makes heat and counters efficiency.
You want your engine to flow as many CFM as possible with as few (relatively) PSI as possible if you are looking for total highest peak HP possible.
The problem is you think everybody's a dick for not lying to you.
Person 1: "How high is the sky?"
Person 2: "Well, it starts there and keeps going up and up."
Person 1: "Yeah, but how high is it?"
Person 2: "What part?"
Person 1: "The sky! How ******* high is it?"
Person 2: "There is no one answer!"
Person 1: "You're a dick!"
Person 2: "I'm not screwing with you. There is no one right answer."
Person 1: "**** you! I'm leaving!"
Person 2: "Bye...(sighs)...Dumbass."
Boosht ish ther mershur of baaakkpprressuurre in ther innntaaakkke seeestum.
That ther's yer problem. Ya still don't fuukin' lissen.
GT2554 at 15psi < t3/t4 at 15psi (the CFM's are different and the HP's are different.)
CFM of air plus fuel equals HP. How many CFM can my engine handle equals how much HP can my engine handle. And PSI is almost completely irrelevant to that equation other than the fact that excess PSI makes heat and counters efficiency.
You want your engine to flow as many CFM as possible with as few (relatively) PSI as possible if you are looking for total highest peak HP possible.
The problem is you think everybody's a dick for not lying to you.
Person 1: "How high is the sky?"
Person 2: "Well, it starts there and keeps going up and up."
Person 1: "Yeah, but how high is it?"
Person 2: "What part?"
Person 1: "The sky! How ******* high is it?"
Person 2: "There is no one answer!"
Person 1: "You're a dick!"
Person 2: "I'm not screwing with you. There is no one right answer."
Person 1: "**** you! I'm leaving!"
Person 2: "Bye...(sighs)...Dumbass."
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01-25-2009, 10:16 PM
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think about it for a minute: if it's ok to post 10 worthless posts, then why have the limit in the first place?
did you consider trying to ask a moderator/admin for some help?
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01-25-2009, 10:19 PM
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or you could have just done nothing and posted only when you thought you had something to add or a sensible question and become a respectable member of the forum.
think about it for a minute: if it's ok to post 10 worthless posts, then why have the limit in the first place?
did you consider trying to ask a moderator/admin for some help?
think about it for a minute: if it's ok to post 10 worthless posts, then why have the limit in the first place?
did you consider trying to ask a moderator/admin for some help?
I didn't ask an admin because I honestly didn't think it would be that big of a deal since it was in the bs forum and no one would mind. Heck I thought some people would think it was funny. I also thought anything goes in there.
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01-25-2009, 10:21 PM
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Waste your time. Lol. I can assure you the feeling is mutual.
Seriously, look back at your computer screen for just a second. Count how many people are telling you you're wrong. Also look at these people's post counts. Consider the fact that you could be wrong.
You seriously don't get it. Here's a realllllyyy simplified way of putting it
Fuel burned/unit time = HP Burning fuel is the goal. Period.
To burn fuel, you need oxygen. A turbocharger will increase the density of the air going into the engine. Denser air= more oxygen. However, the compressor of the turbo gets its' power from the turbine. The turbine places a restriction on the engine, causing back pressure. Small turbo's have smaller turbines that place a larger restriction on the engine. This causes a larger pressure (read, enthalpy) difference across the turbine, resulting in more shaft work to drive the compressor. So a turbo with a very restrictive turbine will spool fast, but won't make much power. Where as a turbo with a large turbine will spool slowly, but once spooled, will make more power.
Seriously, look back at your computer screen for just a second. Count how many people are telling you you're wrong. Also look at these people's post counts. Consider the fact that you could be wrong.
You seriously don't get it. Here's a realllllyyy simplified way of putting it
Fuel burned/unit time = HP Burning fuel is the goal. Period.
To burn fuel, you need oxygen. A turbocharger will increase the density of the air going into the engine. Denser air= more oxygen. However, the compressor of the turbo gets its' power from the turbine. The turbine places a restriction on the engine, causing back pressure. Small turbo's have smaller turbines that place a larger restriction on the engine. This causes a larger pressure (read, enthalpy) difference across the turbine, resulting in more shaft work to drive the compressor. So a turbo with a very restrictive turbine will spool fast, but won't make much power. Where as a turbo with a large turbine will spool slowly, but once spooled, will make more power.
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01-25-2009, 10:22 PM
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100% serious, I'd be more than glad to sit down for like 15-20 minutes over AIM and explain how internal pressure work, and why motors fail under torque and not pressure. If he is willing to be open to ideas that aren't his (and aren't wrong), I'll gladly put the time in to help him understand the correct ideas.
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01-25-2009, 10:23 PM
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If you read a book about it you'd realize that M3/min or CFM is the measure of power.
Boosht ish ther mershur of baaakkpprressuurre in ther innntaaakkke seeestum.
That ther's yer problem. Ya still don't fuukin' lissen.
GT2554 at 15psi < t3/t4 at 15psi (the CFM's are different and the HP's are different.)
CFM of air plus fuel equals HP. How many CFM can my engine handle equals how much HP can my engine handle. And PSI is almost completely irrelevant to that equation other than the fact that excess PSI makes heat and counters efficiency.
You want your engine to flow as many CFM as possible with as few (relatively) PSI as possible if you are looking for total highest peak HP possible.
The problem is you think everybody's a dick for not lying to you.
Person 1: "How high is the sky?"
Person 2: "Well, it starts there and keeps going up and up."
Person 1: "Yeah, but how high is it?"
Person 2: "What part?"
Person 1: "The sky! How ******* high is it?"
Person 2: "There is no one answer!"
Person 1: "You're a dick!"
Person 2: "I'm not screwing with you. There is no one right answer."
Person 1: "**** you! I'm leaving!"
Person 2: "Bye...(sighs)...Dumbass."
Boosht ish ther mershur of baaakkpprressuurre in ther innntaaakkke seeestum.
That ther's yer problem. Ya still don't fuukin' lissen.
GT2554 at 15psi < t3/t4 at 15psi (the CFM's are different and the HP's are different.)
CFM of air plus fuel equals HP. How many CFM can my engine handle equals how much HP can my engine handle. And PSI is almost completely irrelevant to that equation other than the fact that excess PSI makes heat and counters efficiency.
You want your engine to flow as many CFM as possible with as few (relatively) PSI as possible if you are looking for total highest peak HP possible.
The problem is you think everybody's a dick for not lying to you.
Person 1: "How high is the sky?"
Person 2: "Well, it starts there and keeps going up and up."
Person 1: "Yeah, but how high is it?"
Person 2: "What part?"
Person 1: "The sky! How ******* high is it?"
Person 2: "There is no one answer!"
Person 1: "You're a dick!"
Person 2: "I'm not screwing with you. There is no one right answer."
Person 1: "**** you! I'm leaving!"
Person 2: "Bye...(sighs)...Dumbass."
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01-25-2009, 10:28 PM
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Have you read all my posts. I know its not boost but pressure. What does pressure equal. Torque. But did I ask about that. No I asked A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON THE BOOST PEOPLE RUN BEFORE THERE MOTORS BLOW UP!!!
I missed Sav's earlier post on torque. I never argued it wasn't torque.
I missed Sav's earlier post on torque. I never argued it wasn't torque.
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