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1redcanuck 07-23-2007 09:56 PM

Which clutch should I get?
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...QQcmdZViewItem

Should be right around 200whp.

Ben 07-23-2007 10:17 PM

Those are the only 2 choices?

Do you really want to save a little money now, to have to pull the tranny again later?

Tremiata 07-23-2007 10:19 PM

There was a similar thread which others were giving the ok to the F1 kit.

Dhaark 07-23-2007 11:05 PM

I think the F1 is the same as CLUTCHNET?? that is what I heard on here before... I'm using a 6puck clutchnet clutch + 3x red PP ;)

Mach929 07-23-2007 11:32 PM

act extreme, pony up the extra dough now and thank yourself later

Savington 07-23-2007 11:49 PM

Have fun pulling your transmission twice.

ACT HD should hold 200rwhp, especially with a 6-puck. $377 at CarolinaClutch.com.

m2cupcar 07-24-2007 09:44 AM

The F1 looks different than my clutchnet. Mine has the springs totally "wrapped" by the housing vs. open on the ends. The springs on my rebuild Spec just ripped right through the open ends on the plate. I hate changing clutches enough to not risk this job on going cheap. Just not a battle worth losing IMO. Somebody on here has a post where they got one of those eBay clutches and it was bad out of the box. He spent an eternity arguing with the seller who insisted upon sending generalized, non-specific responses regarding the problem.

SloS13 07-24-2007 10:02 AM

I just ordered one of the F1 clutches, now im waiting for it to show up. Hope I dont end up kicking myself in the ass for it :)

Ben 07-24-2007 10:29 AM

The 1.8 HD will ABSOLUTELY hold 200. Plenty of folks are running it around 300 wheel. When I was clutch shopping, one of the dudes at FM who I spoke with told me he had 40k miles on his HD at ~300 hp, including track use.

I would go to the safe side and get an XT in 1.6 size. Though the 1.6HD should hold 200 fine.

samnavy 07-24-2007 10:39 AM

Stay away from Spec until I get my shit sorted out... should be another two weeks or so.

1redcanuck 07-24-2007 06:59 PM

If I do end up going with ACT, Which specific XT should I get.

miatamania 07-24-2007 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 133821)
Have fun pulling your transmission twice.

ACT HD should hold 200rwhp, especially with a 6-puck. $377 at CarolinaClutch.com.

good guys...they have their shop right down the street from where I live so I just stopped in and bought my ACT XT from them in person. They know what they are talking about and have damn good prices.

Trent 07-25-2007 12:04 AM

I got the 1.6 XT with an organic street disc. Love it. Holds the power very well. The pedal effort is not too too bad and the engagement point isn't very low at all.

I'm very satisfied with the XT.

Al Hounos 07-25-2007 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by supersaiyan93 (Post 134161)
I got the 1.6 XT with an organic street disc. Love it. Holds the power very well. The pedal effort is not too too bad and the engagement point isn't very low at all.

I'm very satisfied with the XT.

Yep.

neogenesis2004 07-25-2007 12:47 AM

I can tell you with absolute certainty that the f1 stg3 clutch I have in my car right now said clutchnet on every single part that I received. Additionally, it has been working perfectly in my car since december.

turbopezz 07-25-2007 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 134179)
I can tell you with absolute certainty that the f1 stg3 clutch I have in my car right now said clutchnet on every single part that I received. Additionally, it has been working perfectly in my car since december.


im rocking the SAME clutch.holds 12psi from a gt2560 all day:bigtu:

drewbroo 07-25-2007 04:47 AM

I like the Centerforce Dual Friction, I will be running it in the miata soon, I have had one in a 360WHP SHO, and in a 294WHP 944. They have nice street drivability, and don't get crunchy where most other clutches do, also I have never had one go out on me.

1redcanuck 07-25-2007 06:42 PM

Ok. Thanks for the info guys. Has anyone had the F1 and not liked it?

Stripes 07-25-2007 06:51 PM

Another happy ACT extreme user. Holding 14psi just fine. I say buy a clutch that exceeds your hp expectations so you have room to grow.

1redcanuck 08-07-2007 08:09 PM

Hey SloS13 are you running the F1 yet? If so how do you like it so far?

1redcanuck 08-07-2007 08:15 PM

One more question. How many hours labour will a shop charge me for the install?

SloS13 08-07-2007 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by 1redcanuck (Post 138008)
Hey SloS13 are you running the F1 yet? If so how do you like it so far?

I've received it but havent had time to install it quite yet. Hopefully sometime next week. I have not noticed any clutchnet references on my parts though :eek5:

Dow.tom 08-07-2007 08:30 PM

it'll be about 800 total (including clutch) most times for a shop to do it.

1redcanuck 08-21-2007 09:30 PM

If I do go with an ACT 1.6 XT clutch, with one should I get? There are soooo many models. A link would be greatly appreciated. TIA

magnamx-5 08-21-2007 09:34 PM

factor in 400$ in labor minimum Tom you got screwed if they put in a oe clutch for 800$/ My ACT XT was 307$ shipped. Just get the street disc and you will be fine the XT has a good bit of pedal pressure to it a HD or the ebay clutch will work just fine for 200 whp. But the ebay clutch is not very long lasting atleast mine wasn't 12K miles of use left a noticable difference in new vs when i took mine out but i beat it pretty hard. and never broke it in either.

Snowsurfer03 08-21-2007 11:20 PM

Wow $800? It was only $120 labor for my spec stage II & it held 10psi on my greddy kit just fine.

magnamx-5 08-22-2007 09:20 AM

they hosed him on labor big time. one clutch install on a miata is no more expensive than another.

mtncrvr 08-22-2007 09:44 AM

+1 ACT XT w/organic street disc no problems and holding at 12-14psi (1.8). Installing clutch was ez, reinstalling tranny was PITA.. Get quotes - if you find one that doesn't suck and have the $ to burn that's the route I'd go if I had to do it again (that is if I don't end up pulling motor by the next time I need a clutch).

levnubhin 08-22-2007 09:45 AM

A buddy of mine is running a stage 2 from eCLUTCHMATERS on his 96 with an mp62 at 12 psi. Has about 6k on it with no problems.
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FHS 08-22-2007 09:53 AM

I upgraded to the 1.8 ACT HD rather than going with the 1.6 ACT XT. The pedal effort is noticeably more than stock but it's fine. I can't say how it compares to the 1.6 ACT XT though. The engagement point was really low but i just adjusted the pedal.

smoke187 08-23-2007 01:02 AM

im using that xtd clutch in my protege and there is another guy with a boosted protege using the same clutch for 2yrs with no problems

akaryrye 08-23-2007 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 133916)
Stay away from Spec until I get my shit sorted out... should be another two weeks or so.

Well I guess I finally got lucky on something because my Spec stage 3 four-puck has been in there for like 5k miles and it still grips great and I got it up to 17 or 18 psi (felt a bit quick ;) ) on a few boost spikes I had while messin with the megasquirt's boost control. I have two main gripes though, first being the engagement point, it goes from no grip to wooooooahhh! jerk the car around shit. Ive learned how to drive it in town, but I still get a jerky engagement 1 in 10 stops or so. Second gripe is that it sounds like the throwout bearing is already going out, as it is audible when the clutch is pushed in. I will be putting an ACT in next time the tranny is off.

Moral of story, its worth an extra hundred dollars or even more to go with the sure thing with a clutch ... I wish I did. OTOH if you are completely strapped for cash and have lots of time to work on your car, then a cheap clutch is less of a gamble.

1redcanuck 08-29-2007 01:36 PM

I have decided to go with an ACT XT. Now which one specifically should I get? I have looked on Carolinaclutch.com and there are sooo many models. If you could include a link to a specific clutch from them it would be greatly appreciated.:bowdown:

mtncrvr 08-29-2007 02:21 PM

Not sure what the exact model # is but you can always email Fm and ask for their part numbers from the following kits

For 1.8:

http://flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept...umber=08-19000

For 1.6:

http://flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept...umber=08-10000

Not saying ya gotta get it from them but this is Extreme + Street Disc - ll hold gobs of power :-) and have smooth engagement.


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