Cost of your setup
 

I was just wondering if some of you guys could post an approximate cost of parts, custom fab, and any labor you had to pay someone else during the process from start to finish. TQ/HP numbers would be nice, but I just wanna know if a DIY setup can be done for a "reasonable" amount.

Personally I think $3500 is "reasonable" for a DIY setup.

My original setup was cheaper, more diy, and less efficient. Here's a basic breakdown of where I'm at now:
Manifold & DP : ~$900 - BEGi
Turbo : ~$200 - eBay
Intercooler & Piping : ~$200 - Secondhand J i m B setup plus a few other bits and pieces
Bosch BOV : ~$25 - eBay
Various oil/water fittings : ~$100
eManage Blue, Greddy MAP, Ignition Harness, Support Tool : ~$400 - eBay
365cc Injectors : ~$50 - eBay

Total: ~~~~~~~$1900
I don't recall the exact costs, so I estimated high. My first setup was about $1000 cheaper as I used an Apexi SAFC($200), SSAutochrome manifold ($50) and made my own DP. Then I spent $250 on a better DP, which still left me under $1500. Finally, I decided that BEGi's Manifold and DP were way to nice to pass up which put me over $1500. Fortunately, I've sold the pieces that I've upgraded, which saved me a few hundred dollars.

I figure I'm into my setup for around $2700cnd. That includes:

Greddy Turbo Kit
Starion and piping
Heat sheild
fuel pump
BEGI AFPR
1.8 injectors
4 wire O2
Emanage Blue w/autotune including all harnesses GM 2bar Map and support tool
Change out to all silicone hose and t-bolt clamps

I also sold a couple of items I got with the kit initally, the vortec, bipes and FM o2 clamp. I also traded an old trunk lid for 1.8 injectors, 4 wire o2 and a couple of other minor things. I traded the stock exhaust + $50 for the BEGI.

I think I've done alright, everything I got was used with the exception of the fuel pump.

I should be good for 12psi in the current configuration and would estimate that about 180whp. I think with slightly larger injectors I could probably get up to near 200whp. I'm running about 9psi right now until I get my wideband. Even at 9psi it is great value for the dollar.

I didn't include new clutch in this, as I had already done a SPEC clutch/flywheel combo. I didn't include mainatnece items either (fuel filter, new plugs ...), I would think on top of what I listed for price maybe throw in another $100 for things like fuel line, fittings and what not.

I think $3500usd would be reasonable providing you get some deals and buy lots of used bits.

Mine: https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3295
The total is probably about $3400, + $320 for clutch. Probably another 5-600 for a rear end..... :sadwavey:

My above list works out to about $2300 usd, which includes a lot of shipping expense to Canada and getting fuck by UPS at least 2 times. :(

The biggest thing I've come to discover is that the turbo "kit" will really nickle and dime you. Everytime I went to the parts store for something I spent $100.

Still less than anything that FM or BEGI sells, and less than an entry level JRSC kit. Granted I've had my share of head aches that I probably wouldn't have encountered if I had gone with the alternatives.

Doh, didn't see that this was DIY 1.8 :) Sorry about that.

Lol, it doesn't matter to me... I know parts/costs are going to vary between the two engines, but I'm only asking for an approximate figure anyway

I definitely plan on buying a lot of used parts... I'm getting a 14B w/ O2 housing, j-pipe, SMIC and the lower I/C piping for $175 so I'm getting off on the right foot with my setup. Don't worry about including the clutch either, I don't count that as a part of my budget. It will be installed within a few weeks afterward, but it's not part of my turbo budget

this is a general DIY section like greddy on 1.8 and such

Ya, I caught that. :inout:

Used DIY kit -$1200
Replacement Intercooler -$180
Replacement Turbo -$400
Exhaust work -$100
Vortech FMU -$100
1.8 injectors -$45
Various silicone $ supplies -$200
DIY MBC -$15
Rx7 AFM -$50
Bipes ACU -$200
Bruce's O2 Clamp -$60
K&N Filter -$30

=$2580 then......

Replacment Engine -$500 + $300 friendly labor -$800
Peirburg Pump -$130
290cc Injectors -$50
Clutch -$333
Flywheel -$300
BEGi Manifold & Downpipe -$675

=$2288

sold....

J/R Header +$250
1.6 injectors +$40
Intercooler +$50
Other odds & ends +$100

$4868 - $440 = $4428 (I recommend spending WAY too much on a POS used DIY kit and spending more to replace parts on it. I also recommend blowing your engine on your first test drive. This will make things expensive and frustrating and you can be cool like me!)

LOL I'll remember that

used FM3 1.6 manifold = $170 (ebay)
used FM2 1.6 downpipe = $50
used GT254R (MSP) = $350
BEGI intercooler system = $1200
Link ECU = $850
Link upgrades = $100
RX7 550cc injectors (balanced and cleaned) = $200
Walbro p&p 190l HP pump = $100
braided lines & AN fittings = $100
heat shield = $90
gauge and pod = $50
assorted hardware and items = $75
fidanza 7# flywheel = $215
ACT xt00 clutch = $250

$3800

I bought the tec3 for another car 3 years ago but ill add that anyway
I've traded my ic piping, manifold and dp's welding and fabrication in the price of a car i just sold so ill put an approx value.

Used Garrett GT28R with fittings, lines and outlet adapters $500
Pulsar GTi-R 444cc injectors $0/free (that was my old car that i upgraded)
Pulsar GTi-R tmic, free but it cost me $50 to get one of the end tanks swaped around)
Tec3 ecu $2200
RM tec3 trigger kit and extra sensors $378 (if it ever effing comes :mad: )
RX7 FD3S fuel pump $0/free

Items i dont have as yet:
Custom semi equal manifold ~$400
Custom 2.5" dp and side exit exhaust ~$400
Couplers and clamps $50Some odd fittings and teh misc file ~$250
WB02 $180
Ebay f1 racing 1.6 cerametalic clutch $170
Fidanza 1.6 flywheel $294

Total $4872

If i were to have gone emanage, o2 clamp etc it would have only costed around $3300 :bigtu:

I spent around $1500 3 years ago...

Manifold 235
T25 Turbo (ceramic coated) 250
SS DP 175
SS Lines 130
I/C 35
misc + Pipes 165
Paint 10
BOV and hose 80
Clamps 20
VDO boost gauge 75
**EM 350

**tried a few different fuel/timing methods...

I included the price of my link since that IS my fuel management. I didn't include stuff like the oil cooler and associated fittings, radiator, fans, MSD ign, pp & clutch... only the stuff that's required for the turbo.

t3/t4 turbo - $350
SSA ss header - $50
turbo oil parts - $32
DP/IC tubing & flanges - $180
welding supplies - $30
Injectors - $200
intercooler - $235
fuel pump - $gift
Link ecu - $600
FM chip - $125
Air temp sensor - $110
Knock sensor - $10
EBC - $gift
BOV - $40
T clamps - $48
IC hose - $42
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total $2092 - that's minus the supra fuel pump and EBC AND doesn't include my first chinese turbo ($400) which failed me.

Wow, I wasn't expecting everyone to do a part-by-part cost list. Thanks!

BTW, m2cupcar, where on earth did you grab a Link for $600???

There are deals to be had on used Links, but they're far and few between. I've literally only seen a handful of them for sale the past year for a decent price. If that's what you're after, check the classifieds and ebay daily. I bought mine for 550 plus injectors. This was by far the best deal I've had on my setup.

Yeah, I was about to give up on finding a Link, as the best deals I've seen were like $800-900, but I'll definitely keep my eyes open for them now

Lets see.....

TubularManifold and turbo $600
Custom Downpipe $250
HKS Wastegate $100
Apexi BOV $100
SAFC $75
Random parts(lines, ext) $100
Fuel Pump $60
Injectors Free!
Intercooler (audi) $15

Total so far ~$1300
damn.....I got off cheep!

I picked it up on eBay- it wasn't an FM unit. I've had it for about 5 years... no keypad. But there have been two that sold on ebay recently for far less than that with keypad and injectors. Here's a tip- do a search on ebay for "miata link" then save that search in your favorites and ebay will email you when something matching it comes up. Of course you'd be bidding against everybody else on this site who want's one. ;) What's nice about he LINK, is that FM has done an outstanding job of enhancing the software. That combined with the pLink software on a palm pilot and it's quite the slick setup IMO. - rob

ditto.

i wish i had never sold the first used one i had installed. the second one is a MK1, but with the circuit upgrades and chip, i can run everything the latest ones can except a boost controller.

i think a standalone like the link makes modifying a miata so much easier and reliable.

Alright, well that makes me feel a lot more confident about finding a good deal on a Link then... quick question though. What would you guys consider the lowest possible price I could find on a Link? I'm going to buying everything I need over the next 9 or 10 months and I don't want to let an awesome deal get away because I "might" be able to get a better deal later.

HEHE, that's exactly how I did it. I think the one I bought was on ebay for less than thirty minutes. He had a buy it now price of 550 and I snagged it as soon as I saw it. The seller mentioned he had people emailing him for days offering to pay double for what I bought it for.

I was also lucky. I bought it from an honest guy who shipped it out right away and was exactly as described.

I'll also mention it took me a year to find this deal.

I think a good deal would be anywhere from 700-850 with injectors and a knock sensor. A great deal would be anything less than 700 bucks. You're probably going to spend another 100 bucks cleaning injectors and upgrading the Link chip. Also, take into consideration the attitude of the seller especially on Ebay. I personally do not buy anything on ebay unless the seller has excellent feedback. Ask questions if you’re not sure about the unit. I found out after I bought my link there are two different versions for 94-95. I was lucky and bought the right one.

A just reward for expert eBay-ing. :beer:
The saab/gm knock sensors work with the link and FM sells the mount separately for $15 (found out after I made my own :doh:). The trick is using a spare rear thermosensor connector to plug up to the knock sensor. The other end is just an rca jack- be sure to use a shielded cable - and ground the shield on one end for maxium noise supression.

With the exception of my link and injectors (which were on my other Miata) I spent about -$1,000. YES, that is MINUS $1,000 - very long story. I think the link and stuff was about $1500 so I have around $500 in mine. I would KILL for a $550 link for my wife's car. Where do you live? <G>

Lets see here....

-Garrett GT3271 Turbo = 700
-Carbon Steel Log mani w/ JetHOT 2000 = 500
-Stainless 2.5in DP w/ external Tial 38mm vented back in 3ft down = 750
-DIY IC pipes w/ Starion IC w/2in inlet and outlet, 1st Gen HKS Sequential BOV, T bolt clamps, sillicon couplers = 500
-Inline Pierburgh pump, BEGI Billet AFPR, Bipes ACU, 330cc injectors = 600

Thats about 3k, but I have so much more into the car...thats just the turbo kit pieces currently on the car. I have other supporting mods that youll also need. Clutch for one and gauges youll need for the turbo.

16g turbo 575 thanks tachyon only place in within 50 nor so miles with anything i could compare turbos to manifolds with
Megan racing DP/ manifold 200 shipped
tdo4 15c turbo of new of ebay 300 dollars never used just sitting in the garage waiting for a home
F1 racing stage 3 clutch 150 dollars shipped sweet.
New braided stainless teflon inner hydralic line for clutch, 65 bucks
2g dsm install kit 200 dollars all i needed was the j pipe and the adapter for the drain but oh well
OBX Fpr12-1 70 dollars
Walboro 190hp from local race shop but never agian 150 dollars
55 gallons of methanol 112 dollars
pump 25 dollars
gas cans 20 dollars
WI Kit 300 dollars
braided stainless teflon inner oil supply, and drain lines for turbo 120 dollars
fittings 100 dollars
extra brake lines that where not metric and would not fit 100 dollars
silicone couplers 120 dollars.
custom intake tubing temp mockup 25 dollars
real setup 100 dollars
Rx7 afm 45 dollars
supra 310 cc injectors 20 dollars
asbestos heat wrap 30 dollars
red ceramic caot spray paint 12 dollars.
Gass to find evrything 250+ dollars
agrevation of wrong parts 1,000,000 dollars
peicing together your own turbo kit and driving al over the state to find soemthing that will work priceless.
there are some things money cant buy for everything else there is trubo miata.:D

plan on about $5000+ after you've gotten your exhaust, clutch, rear end, better brakes, roll bar, real tires.

I spent 1500 on a turbo donor miata with 7/10ths of the stuff I want to use:
16g turbo, manifold, boost gauge, intercooler, dp & exhaust, fuel pump some spare parts I needed
apexi safc : +100$
wheels : +50$
misc : +100$ so far
seats : +250$ hopfully

emanage : -traded a set of old volks ~300$
rest of gauges : traded old tranny cooler from my hotrod ~40$
probe intercooler : traded for some spring collars ~70$
boomslang : ~170$
injectors : ~50$

still need about 300$ worth of parts :P