Originally Posted by miataspeed2005
(Post 418030)
IDK but in my opinion doing the intercooler like you is fucking stupid!
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In all seriousness, I think the vast majority of us, whether we're going over, under, or around the radiator, are running a significant portion of our charge piping directly behind it.
So far as I am aware, this has not yet caused the Guadalupe River to turn to blood. BTW, have you noticed that a weasel is precisely the correct shape and size already? You wouldn't even have to slit it lengthwise. Just hollow it out from the ends and slip the pipe through it like a sleeve. |
Originally Posted by Project84
(Post 417776)
If the charge pipes are absorbing some of the heat the radiator is... radiating.... you're expecting the air passing through the hot pipes to not get compromised? That's bold.
Take a map torch to an aluminum pipe, get it to 200*F, blow air at turbo-psi (10psi, whatever) through the pipe and tell me the air coming out the other end isn't warmer than the air going in. Not to be rude but this is like 3rd grade 101... Seriously, your're completly overstating the heat transfer effect. At 100 dec C 99% of the heat transfer is convective and air is not moving in the right direction to heat the IC pipes if they are in front. The worst case is having them behind, as I do. This still doesn't matter, the effect is nearly zero. Even though it's called a "radiator", the radiation is nearly zero at that temp. |
Not to mention the air on that side of the IC is pretty hot already.
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Originally Posted by fluke
(Post 418168)
Last time I checked they don't teach heat transfer in 3rd grade lol..
I was making my statements regarding the pipes laying across the top of the radiator, not sitting in front of it. Listen fellas, while you're all pointing fingers at me, I'm pointing fingers at the weasel. /end my association with this thread. |
Originally Posted by Project84
(Post 418238)
Yes but a 3rd grader knows better than to touch a frying pan while sitting atop a hot stove. Which is basically what I'm referring to. A pipe sitting on top of the radiator will become a hot pipe.
I was making my statements regarding the pipes laying across the top of the radiator, not sitting in front of it. Listen fellas, while you're all pointing fingers at me, I'm pointing fingers at the weasel. /end my association with this thread. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 418053)
So far as I am aware, this has not yet caused the Guadalupe River to turn to blood.
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You guys w/ your low blows. Jesus... man up and say it already you inflamed vagina(s).
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It could be worse. The guy I got my car (a '93) from tried to run the intercooler piping under the passenger side head light. Naturally it interferes with the headlights being lowered so he just left them up and disconnected the wires from the headlight motor to the lights. Anybody got a photos/tips/links as to how to do it more effectively? Just looking to get a headstart on the project.
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Originally Posted by Project84
(Post 417736)
I don't understand over the radiator. sure it's easy to route but you're picking up all that heat pre/post intercooler. Anyone read intake temps w/ an over the radiator setup? I wonder if the IC is event able to lower the temp of the charge air.
Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 418017)
I still say again for a bunch of "kids" (no offense..) in a garage with a wire feed welder and some misc hand tools.. MAD Props!!
Thanks man, I am still impressed with how well it came out. |
As long as there is an air space between the pipe and the radiator it shouldn't be too bad in terms of heat transfer as air is not a good conductor. Likewise mild steel is not a great conductor compared to aluminum. Stainless steel is an even poorer conductor, but can weigh a lot. I quess a reflective wrap/sleeve around the pipe wouldn't hurt. Still hoping to see some photos of other ways to route my pipe to the intercooler on my NA wthout disabling the headlight.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 418053)
BTW, have you noticed that a weasel is precisely the correct shape and size already? You wouldn't even have to slit it lengthwise. Just hollow it out from the ends and slip the pipe through it like a sleeve.
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Originally Posted by sc850r
(Post 422897)
...Stainless steel is an even poorer conductor, but can weigh a lot...
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Nice work, I hope to try my own fabrication skills.
I can cut and paste, but not weld yet. |
Alpina turbo? BMW by chance? I don't have enough posts to send you a PM yet.
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