doc race ebay manifold looks legit someone buy this
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already searched cant find any info on this. manifold looks legit. i like the placement of the turbo.
DOC Race Mazda Miata MX-5 T3 Top Mount Turbo Manifold 1.8L GT30R GT35R | eBay https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341533500 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341533500 http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...Nf88Q60_57.jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341533500 |
1) I'd like to see it functioning with a full setup on a car, and proven to not suck. So far that's not been done (we had this same EXACT discussion a few months back about this same mani)
2) looks like it would make oil drain a pita, as well as possibly interfere with frame rail, requiring possible Faeflora mounting. 3) for that kinda cash, Tim and Abe can make you pretty much ANY style manifold, and they both have some seriously sick manifolds they've made before that are proven to fit right, work good, and are both evil geniuses when it comes to miata hotside parts. So yeah.....meh |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 899657)
3) for that kinda cash, tim and abe can make you pretty much any style manifold, and downpipe
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i too would like to see this thing in action. i dont wanna be the test mule but this manifold just looks really visually appealing. i could probably make an exhaust for it pretty easily and it seems like they are selling most of their manifolds for the same price. they put it up for 795 or best offer and they seem to be selling b series manifolds for just over 500.
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LOL visually appealing. Have you seen any of Tims and Abes work? Even their lowend manifolds look just as well made (and ARE well made) as this thing.
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Exactly what the rest said.
"304" stainless with no listing of what sch. pipe. No thanks. I'd love to see my 40lb Holset sit on this bitch at that angle after 15 pulls to 130mph. |
Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 899695)
Exactly what the rest said.
"304" stainless with no listing of what sch. pipe. No thanks. I'd love to see my 40lb Holset sit on this bitch at that angle after 15 pulls to 130mph. |
well its not exactly an "ebay" manifold, so its not like anyone is mad or frustrated, just doesn't look like its anything anyone here would want to be a guinea pig for, esp for that kinda cash
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ebay says they have sold 1. so someone out there is trying it out. hopefully they chime in on here. i pmd the seller asking what kind of piping its made of and if they offer any warranty as far as cracking n stuff.
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according to the ad, they sold one. brb - checking cr
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they need to shield the ---- out of that shock
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Yeah they do. This shop is local to me but never been there.
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Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 899767)
the seller wrote back and said that its constructed form sc40 piping. and they offer a 2 year warranty against cracking if its "professionally installed" whatever that means. |
The turbo NEEDS a crane on that set-up, it's not schedule-40 pipe, and the wastegate placement is less than fantastic.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 900145)
The turbo NEEDS a crane on that set-up, it's not schedule-40 pipe, and the wastegate placement is less than fantastic.
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Originally Posted by samwu8k
(Post 900136)
:drool:^ thats one of the nicest looking setups ive seen in a while. i wuv how it sits the turbo at an angle, looks so menacing that way
I'll take an ugly, proven setup over a mystery baller setup any day.
Originally Posted by samwu8k
(Post 900136)
the seller wrote back and said that its constructed form sc40 piping. and they offer a 2 year warranty against cracking if its "professionally installed" whatever that means.
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 900148)
Whats wrong with the wastegate placement?
Not to mention you'll have to snake your dump pipe around the lower coolant hose. I can smell the burning lines already :party: Small details? Yes. But for that price? No. For that price you're better off having the forum fabricators build you whatever you want with your own specifications and needs in mind, and knowing it will be quality. 800 is too much bread for me to spend on mystery meatloaf. |
Yeah, viper is pretty much spot on: what to you looks "kewl" and "menacing" to us looks like a giant pain in the a$$. You'll be melting stuff left and right and having fitment issues.
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aww man i dont wanna melt stuff and have fitment issues.
how can u guys tell its not sc40 pipe? is it cuz it comes with that cast look on the surface compared to the smooth finish on the piping they used? |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 900148)
Whats wrong with the wastegate placement?
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Originally Posted by samwu8k
(Post 900179)
aww man i dont wanna melt stuff and have fitment issues.
how can u guys tell its not sc40 pipe? is it cuz it comes with that cast look on the surface compared to the smooth finish on the piping they used? You also need to make sure they used a TiAL v-band flange and welded on a male-side rather than a female. |
So, does the hood close with that setup? Looks really close.
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Its funny because their "proven 900whp manifolds" dont list ---- about the actual piping.... Pipe diameter, pipe thickness.. no usefull info at all. And their flange looks like they cut it on a bandsaw without even facing it... and at last 795 with 60 bucks shipping.
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i like how it only made 200rwhp.
it's a shitty design; the placement is horrible. this made me laugh: We started this build by selecting a properly sized turbo and a DOC Race turbo manifold. ... Precision PT5557 Turbo |
Originally Posted by fwMiata
(Post 900225)
So, does the hood close with that setup? Looks really close.
206/171 is pretty weak though. Did they tune it for 4-5psi? I like the placement design only because it keeps everything away from the heater hoses and master cylinder. Looks like it should have some supporting though. |
So instead of melting heater hoses and boiling brake fluid, you're melting power steering, ac, and lower rad hoses, and boiling ps fluid.
PHAIL |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 900329)
So instead of melting heater hoses and boiling brake fluid, you're melting power steering, ac, and lower rad hoses, and boiling ps fluid.
PHAIL It says not compatible with power steering. :vash: |
---- that manifold.
Miatas are now the new "baller" car to buy and slam and do stupid ---- with, which means we will see lots of stupid ---- ---- like this. I ------- hate this ----, all these retards have to ---- up all the best ------- cars to play with so all the cars and engines and parts get torn up and expensive. Fills me with hate. |
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 900357)
---- that manifold.
Miatas are now the new "baller" car to buy and slam and do stupid ---- with, which means we will see lots of stupid ---- ---- like this. I ------- hate this ----, all these retards have to ---- up all the best ------- cars to play with so all the cars and engines and parts get torn up and expensive. Fills me with hate. |
someone on here needs to buy one and test for us
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I'm sure you can trick some one on CR.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
(Post 900355)
Man u been spending too much time with Fae.
It says not compatible with power steering. :vash: either way, you're right next to the lower rad hose (unless you re-locate) and even more crowded toward the front for no apparent reason: its not bottom mount for optimal downpipe routing. its not side-mount for more compact-ness, and its not top mount to retain p/s. its like the worst of everything. someone please explain to me the advantages of that placement aside from " EET LEWKS KEEWL DAWGGG" |
Originally Posted by pusha
(Post 900365)
someone on here needs to buy one and test for us
i went trough their website and they got some really nice cars coming trough their shop, they might not be miata experts but they arent noobz either. they tuned the car to 200 hp as a break in or something and claimed it should push somewhere in the 300s with a good tune. the turbo itself is capable, i doubt the stock motor could sustain that power level for long. although this manifold might not be the optimal design wastegate wise it reminds me of the full race-manifolds for s2k and those look sick as well. ive also noticed alot of turbo manifolds for honda k-series engines usually hang the turbo wayy off to the side of the engine bay with some pretty long runners. seems like they are completely unbraced as well. but then again im just ur avg ricer so perhaps idk what im lookin @ |
Originally Posted by samwu8k
(Post 900487)
they tuned the car to 200 hp as a break in or something and claimed it should push somewhere in the 300s with a good tune. the turbo itself is capable, i doubt the stock motor could sustain that power level for long.
when the last time you needed a boost break-in? |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 900329)
So instead of melting heater hoses and boiling brake fluid, you're melting power steering, ac, and lower rad hoses, and boiling ps fluid.
PHAIL I don't have PS or AC, so that didn't cross my mind. IMO, the lower rad hose is easier to shield or cover than the tight radius heater hoses. |
Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
(Post 900518)
lol
I don't have PS or AC, so that didn't cross my mind. IMO, the lower rad hose is easier to shield or cover than the tight radius heater hoses. ARtech can make you a bad mutha fugga twin scroll sex manifold for that price. |
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Pics from a guy on the MT facebook page (not the legit OG chat)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343372108 http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...66680412_n.jpg Manifold is not compatible with headlight motors... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343372108 |
I can smell the heater core return line melting from here. Do you suppose they could clock the air intake down 30* so it could be completely behind the radiator? That way you could get very consistent IAT in the 200* range. :facepalm:
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i like the flimsy brace, that will crack within a few hours.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 908588)
i like the flimsy brace, that will crack within a few hours.
Brain called it. Anyone else wanna argue for sch.10 stainless manifolds?????
Originally Posted by MT facebook guy
Cracked dead center of the weld and they still wouldn't swap it out. Only would they repair it and this is my dd.
I asked them if they purge the Manu with Argon while the weld it and they said no. Lol I highly don't recommend DOC RACING! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343400284 Yo, OP. Get your faggette-asss back in here and tell us how you want this thing because it's "menacing looking". |
i was talking about the brace cracking but, lol, even better.
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Modest flow, not ABSURD!!!
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I don't buy tubular manifolds often.....
...but when I do, I only get MENACING LOOKING ONES |
Is magnamx5 still using a Megan/obx manifold? He's probably the forum's leading expert on thin walled metal if he has managed to keep it together.
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I like the placement; I put it sorta there on my last manifold. I never like the long runners but whatev. I don't backpurge my manifolds either UT OHHHHH did I say that? If you don't heat it up too much it won't sugar too badly. Muhahahaahaaaaaa all you fools I gotch yo money suckersssszzzzz!
ARTech FTW. What's wrong with the PT5557? No love for precision here, I know. I seriously hope those dyno numbers were at 4-5psi. Back to the chinese uniform USA Olympians. Ralph Lauren FTL. jk. ? |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 908856)
What's wrong with the PT5557? No love for precision here, I know.
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Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 908880)
Probably because their smallest turbo is rated for 450hp, lol. Interestingly enough, I watched a few vids and read a few threads about some tests with the new PTE turbos vs. the EFR's (large frame turbos) and the PTE's were better in nearly every single category.
I'm kind of starting to like the precision turbos. |
Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 908882)
What about the turbine wheel exploding category? eh eh eh?
I'm kind of starting to like the precision turbos. They have a great rep now with their new line of PTE/CEA turbos now that they are making their own CHRA's and wheels. Before it was just Garrett parts. Now it's super hyper baller level 99 Then again, if you're not aiming for 500+hp, then it's not really important, lol. |
But does it spool like a 2554?
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They machine their logo into the side of some of the impeller blades (billet wheel). You have to look down in between the blades to see it. I thought that was pretty cool, totally unnecessary but a nice touch. Quality of the PTE compressor housing casting is much better than the garretts. Quality of the (iron) PTE vband turbine housing is a tick better (surface finish wise) than the 'beautiful' tial stainless housings.
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This thread makes me sad because It makes me realize I dont know ---- about turbos.
I saw the turbo and was like damn thats bitch is huge for 200whp, but then I was scared to post cause I realized I have no ------ Idea what I'm talking about. Seems like overkill for 200whp when people are making that on a $150 1.6 taco taco manifold and a churbo. I wonder if the 200whp break in is true or if they used that as an excuse, because they knew when they put it online, people who knew what they were talking about would see it and didnt want to look like they robbed some guy. |
Originally Posted by viperormiata
(Post 899695)
Exactly what the rest said.
"304" stainless with no listing of what sch. pipe. No thanks. I'd love to see my 40lb Holset sit on this bitch at that angle after 15 pulls to 130mph. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5b8b4d72ba.jpg cracked runner gtx3071r |
10 year bump. Good job
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